Author: BooMan


Anyone who wants to opine on DavidByron’s positions, behavior, diary etc, please do so here.  This invitation is extended to David as well.

I’m not going to participate.

I have warned David about some of his posts.  I have suggested he consider leaving voluntarily.  

Other than that, I’ll say no more.  I’d rather see what the community has to say.

Open Thread

“It’s amazing to be interested in history and living– making history. It’s an interesting coincidence.”

Bush, C-SPAN interview, February, 5th, 1999.

Middle East Set to “Explode”

I am raising this issue again. This story has the potential to be much more significant than the wedding of Prince Charles and Camilla Parker Bowles. But you would never know it by watching your television.

I am still hoping that reasonable people will prevail and that we do not see an uptick in the cycle of violence.

Israeli police guard Temple Mount

Thousands of Israeli police have surrounded the Temple Mount in Jerusalem amid fears that Jewish extremists plan to storm the site.
The operation follows reports that extremists hope to thwart Israel’s withdrawal from Gaza by inflaming tensions with Palestinians.

Palestinian militants say they will end a truce if Jewish protesters enter the al-Aqsa mosque built on Temple Mount.

The Temple Mount is known as the Haram al-Sharif (Noble Sanctuary) to Muslims.

Last month, Israel’s Channel Two TV station showed a video that it said showed plotters, including rabbis and far-right extremists, discussing ways to occupy the site, which is holy in both Judaism and Islam.

The meeting of representatives from 30 different groups took place at a secret location in Jerusalem’s Old City, the TV station said.

Palestinian Prime Minister Ahmed Qurei appealed to Israel to stop any action against the compound, saying it would cause the region to “explode”…

…Opponents of the Gaza withdrawal plan have been protesting in a number of ways, including blocking traffic on major roads causing massive jams.

Israel is due to withdraw all settlers and the troops that protect them from Gaza in July this year. Israel has occupied Gaza since 1967, and will retain control of the strip’s external borders, airspace and coastline.

The Temple Mount compound, in the old city in East Jerusalem, covers an area of 35 acres.

The site is holy to Jews because it is the site of the First and Second Temple in ancient times. It is known in Jewish tradition as the “abode of God’s presence”.

It is also of deep religious, political and national significance to Palestinians and to Muslims around the world.

Open Thread

I am confident that people are coming together. And the reason I believe this is because our party is united.

-Bush on Fox Special Report w/ Brit Hume, July 19th, 2000.

C & J on the Front Page

I think it is kinda odd that Bill in Portland Maine’s award winning Cheers & Jeers series has been front-paged over at dKos.

I think it kind of permanently blows up the ratings system over there.  But what do you think?

Why did Markos promote it?

Should we have recurring diaries?

Are YOU going to write them?

P.S. This is not naval gazing…we’re staring at someone else.

P.P.S. I guess you should all give each other mojo.

Woodruff vs. Byrd

WOODRUFF: All right. Bill Schneider, thank you very much.

The passionate debates in the Terri Schiavo case have added to the controversy over the Democrats’ use of Senate filibusters to block some of the president’s judicial nominees, as we just heard Bill discussing. A little earlier today I did speak with Democratic Senator Robert Byrd of West Virginia about that issue. But first, I asked him about GOP claims that a major fund-raiser on his behalf by the left-leaning group means he’s too liberal for West Virginia voters.


BYRD: I have one word, one word for that. Horseradish.

That organization is made up of Democrats and Republicans, West Virginians, veterans, farmers, teachers, people from all walks of life. It’s a patriotic organization. It believes in having its say, saying what it thinks. And I’m proud to have the support of that organization.

WOODRUFF: Well, the Republicans say it is out and out a liberal organization and that your association with it means you’re in the same suit.

BYRD: You know, I’m just sick up to my ears concerning all this talk about labels. When I came to the Senate, I was to the right of Senator Goldwater. How about that? Now they say I’m a liberal.

Who cares? I vote the way I see an issue. And the labels just don’t count. There’s too much — too much talk about labels.

They’re not important. They’re not real. And we ought to get beyond that.

WOODRUFF: Well, let me ask you this, there are Democrats on the more moderate end who say that the vocal, the most vocal elements of the party are the liberal groups like MoveOn, and they say it’s not good for the party. Is that something you’re concerned with?

BYRD: You know, I pay no attention to the talk about labels. What I’m concerned about is the liberties of the people of this country. The liberty to speak out, to say what they think, and not be intimidated. That’s one thing that’s happening in this political atmosphere these days.

And I have to say there’s too much of the effort to intimidate. There’s an effort to intimidate those who speak out, who are critical of the administration, who are critical of the president.

They try to intimidate, intimidate the media. That’s a good one. They’ve got you intimidated.

Intimidate senators who have the backbone to stand up for the rights of the people they represent, they try to intimidate. They try to — now they’re trying to intimidate the courts. Back off.

WOODRUFF: Well, I certainly don’t believe they have me intimidated or my news organization intimidated.

BYRD: I don’t think so. But look back at debate on the war.

Where was it? The Senate was mute. The media didn’t ask questions, and the people didn’t ask questions. We were mute.

People were intimidated. That’s the effort now, is to intimidate anybody who has this common sense, and the courage and a strong feeling of what’s right and what’s wrong, trying to intimidate them. They’re trying to do that to me.

WOODRUFF: Well, when it comes to speaking out, let me ask you about this. You know the Republicans in the Senate are talking about changing the filibuster rules.

BYRD: Yes.

WOODRUFF: You’ve said you’re against that. The Republicans say that’s hypocritical, because they say, for example, back in 1977 not once, but they say four different times you helped to close a loophole that let the Republicans have their say.

BYRD: They’re wrong.

WOODRUFF: They were the minority.

BYRD: They’re wrong, they’re dead wrong. And they’ve told themselves that so much that they probably believe it.

It’s not right. They’re wrong.

The ordinary people — the elderly, the young, they’re about to have their rights curtailed by this silly notion that filibuster ought to be eliminated. The filibuster is the last weapon, the lifeline of the liberty of the people. They need to back off that.

WOODRUFF: Last question, Senator. Are you running for re- election?

BYRD: Well, I’m not going to announce it today. I’m thinking about it, seriously.

WOODRUFF: What are you leaning toward?

BYRD: Taking care of the issues here. I’m leaning toward defeating this opening of Pandora’s box, cutting off the filibuster.


WOODRUFF: Senator Robert Byrd, Democrat of West Virginia. He did go onto accuse the Bush administration of trying to pack the federal courts, in his words.

Thanks to Diane101 for the transcript.


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Thoughts, and a Warning, on Israel

On the left, in the United States, Israel is probably the single most divisive issue we face. Most American Jews vote for Democratic candidates, and the Jewish community is a vital fundraising source not only for candidates, but many important progressive causes.

The struggle for racial equality and civil rights was galvanized by the Holocaust and African-American participation in the war. Without the active and energetic participation of Jewish organizations, it is doubtful that we would have seen the end of Jim Crow in the mid-1960’s.

The very soul of the modern Democratic Party is intricately wrapped up in millennia old principles of social justice exemplified by Jewish prophets like Amos.

And yet, the modern Democratic Party is essentially secular in nature. By secular, I do not mean that we are opposed to faith. I mean that we are reflexively resistant to basing policy on Biblical or Koranic texts or interpretations.

On most issues, this point of view is in lockstep with the majority of American Jews. After all, as Betty Rollin has pointed out:

“Forty-five percent of American Jews are secular — the highest rate of any religion. But “secular” includes people who may not practice their religion but who believe in God. Of secular Jews, 34 percent don’t believe in God. Still, they consider themselves Jewish.”

Open Thread

“I did denounce it. I de- I denounced it. I denounced interracial dating. I denounced anti-Catholic bigacy- bigotry.”

Bush, responding to criticism about his visit to Bob Jones University, February 25th, 2000.

Open Thread

“I think if you know what you believe, it makes it a lot easier to answer questions. I can’t answer your question.

-Dubya, speaking in Reynoldsburg, Ohio, October 4th, 2000.