We Democrats, we Progressives, have…and I hate this term but use it anyway…a “nuclear option” too. Everybody knows it…and folks joke about it from time to time, but maybe as we slide into Bush’s second term and witness the GOP’s unabashed power grab in DC it’s time to make “the joke” something a little bit more serious.
All those folks who talked about “moving to Canada” last November were onto something…they just had the wrong country. If we on the Left want to avail ourselves of our “nuclear option” to wrest power back from the right wing Neanderthals who thumb their noses at us from the Beltway as if they OWN this country, as if they had MONOPOLY on power, we have to begin to talk about moving to America….to New Mexico, to Montana, to Colorado, to South Dakota…to Wyoming, to Arkansas, to North Carolina, to Iowa, to Kentucky…and even, ahem, Ohio.
You get the picture. Here’s how that might work…and why this idea is one whose time has perhaps come…
It’s 2005 and the huge wave of Baby Boom retirements has already begun. On top of which, public school systems in our large cities are under enormous stress…such stress that life for public school teachers in our big cities has become almost impossible…owning a home in the Bay Area? Home ownership in creative centers like New York and San Francisco have “priced out” many of the artists, teachers and folks who give those cities their flavor and allure.
Even without a single ounce of political motivation, there are urban retirees and young families, teachers and health professionals, and artists and creative professionals… looking for large and small communities located just outside our metropolitain zones. Communities with an infrastructure of historic architecture, well built homes, civic amenities and which provide close contact with both neighbors and the outdoors, with the cycle of the seasons, and, in this era of Whole Foods, Peet’s Coffee and DSL…all the organic goodness and tech-connectedness that folks have come to expect in the digital age.
Cities like Petaluma, California….or Red Wing and Winona, Minnesota…or Holyoke Massachusetts.
All this trend needs…to have a huge impact on the political infrastructure of our nation…is to turn its eyes to states and Congressional districts that are much closer to “flipping” to our side than anyone really realizes. ie. To “Red” states. And far from being a zany and idealistic proposal for starry-eyed idealists…
I’m actually talking about BUYING our Democracy back with ownership and private property, with joining the tax base and civic participation, with…ahem…the hard work of real estate developers and “our” kind of chain stores…of bringing a Martha Stewart touch to places that are MUCH CLOSER to a “Martha Stewart vision” than most people think…of creating our own answer to Sam Walton…a kind of Ben and Jerry’s in the Heartland.
And, while I am making this point heavily tongue-in-cheek…I’m not joking. Why not do this?
There is too much Democratic money and votes locked up in our big cities and states…and one of the lessons of 2004 is that we can’t stay in our enclaves and “donate” our way out of this mess… perhaps it’s time to do it the old fashioned way, the American way, and start to BUY our way out of it.
- by building retirement developments across the West and Rocky Mountain States
- by investing and developing in attractive communities in States that not currently “favoring” our side.
- by getting groups of families and disgruntled teachers and professionals and looking seriously at building “new paradigms” in attractive quality-of-life regions that folks might not have thought about before…purple zones.
- in sum, by starting a rolling wave of “Volvos and espresso machines” aimed square at the heartland of this nation.
If we do this together. If we do this as a part of a “wave”…then no one will actually be doing it “alone.” Many, many states and districts would be enormously impacted by this kind of interior immigration.
Hell, I even have a non-PC Reaganesque name for this proposal, in honor of those racist vigilantes patrolling our Southern borders at the moment. We can call it the New Pilgrim Project. (please don’t, however…for obvious reasons.)
At any rate, as a determinedly urban Democrat. And as someone who is committed to sharing community with neighbors of all income levels and backgrounds…I know that this proposal is fraught with contradictions and inconsistencies. In some ways, the very people who SHOULD be moving to small towns…the working poor families with kids who are caught in our urban public school systems…can’t.
And I also know that the small and medium towns of America are much different places than most people think…with waves of Latino immigration in recent years that have truly changed the face of the heartland in ways most urban folks don’t realize. Further, small towns are home to citizens who’ve lived in community for generations and who would be quite resentful of simply being “bought out” of someplace their families have lived in and built up over our nation’s history. In some ways, it is the long standing urban poor who have the most in common with folks in small towns, even though they often vote differently.
Nevertheless, it is important to point out that we do have a “Nuclear Option” (what a repugnant phrase) that the GOP does not have.
There are piles of Democratic votes and money and energy that gets focused into redundant counties and cities….that could, with a simple change in point of view, be directed elsewhere. And have the side benefit of ownership of a three bedroom historic home with wood floors.
You can pick the state or region.
New Mexico, Colorado, Montana, Arkansas, South Dakota, Virginia. 10,000, 40,000, or 100,000 new voters would have an impact.
We need to seriously begin to talk about this. It makes sense economically…and culturally this trend is already well established..however mostly within states that are ALREADY heavily Democratic. ie. Folks move from NYC to…uh..Vermont, or the Catskills or Western Mass.
If someone told you that they had a deal that was high quality of life, financially beneficial, allowed you to participate in building something exciting and new…AND contributed to wresting power back from the GOP in DC. Wouldn’t you at least give it a listen?
For what it’s worth, I could envision a movement that aimed to move not just those who were “well off” from cities and urban regions…but those who weren’t as well. A for-profit/non-profit alliance that would truly change the face of rural American small towns forever, by moving folks of ALL backgrounds and income levels into the heartland.
And to all those Right wing…abuse the system…threaten the “nuclear option” zealots who’ve run out proud nation into the ground these last decades…we can proudly look them in the eye and remind them:
We’re American citizens too. We can move where we want, buy property where we want, make affiliations how we want, work how we want and vote how we want….
and the logical consequence of the GOP taking the Federal system and shoving the coincidence of their fake “majority” down our throats is that at some point we would say enough.
At some point we start to fight back the old fashioned way.
At some point we would BUY our country back.
{cross posted at Liberal Street Fight, which is still working through some funkiness, but is, as always, well worth a look!}
In the run-up to the election, Al Franken tried to get a movement going where people would move to Ohio. The name came from a Civil War-era “Bleeding Kansas” movement.
It might be dicey to move into a community where you are the sole stranger– what about finding two or three others to move with you?
I love this idea. And I don’t at all see why it wouldn’t work, both with individuals and as a planned group thing. It would, of course, take time and creativity and an investment of funds from someone or other, but still.
For what it’s worth, I could envision a movement that aimed to move not just those who were “well off” from cities and urban regions…but those who weren’t as well. A for-profit/non-profit alliance that would truly change the face of rural American small towns forever, by moving folks of ALL backgrounds and income levels into the heartland.
Set up a combination of Habitat for Humanity, intentional communities and the underground railroad, and away we go…
I like the idea. The only thing is that places on the “outskirts” like Petaluma, CA cost just as much. To go to the outskirts of the Megalopolis is a distance of more than 100 miles. The scale of what’s happening with suburbanization is wildly out of control.
A second point is that certain places are Republican migratory ahead of us. Check out the Southern Colorado area, like Colorado Springs.
Santa Fe’ is beyond expensive, lots of second homes by Texas millionaires. Their wives litter the art museums there. Most of the scenic dream places are undergoing full gentrification.
Fortunately there are a ton of places with less development and local populations that will hate us for ruining the place which has been ruined for years.
and your realism.
I also know that there’s plenty of booman, kos and LSF readers who are ALREADY out there in the
Winona Minnesotas,
the Rapid City, South Dakotas,
and even in places like Memphis Tennessee or
outside of Little Rock, Arkansas.
I know that many East Bay public school teachers are just at wits end…unable to buy homes, working super long hours, underfunded, and unhappy at the prospect of a long career without much changing….
there may be a few more folks interested in this than people think. Sometimes, something big begins with what seems like a wacky idea.
figured out which state best fits the profile?
I guess that would be some matrix of smallest margin for Bush and smallest state.
Perhaps West Virginia? Or maybe New Mexico?
I need the company!!
Seriously, though, if you want inexpensive housing and good access to Great Smoky Mountain National Park you might be interested. And Asheville NC already has lots of liberals there (and their real estate is more expensive) – come here where you can make a difference!
And if you’re coming from Philly, please bring:
…and you’ll see some real Southern hospitality! 😀
The outskirts are way out now. It’s unbelievable:
http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2005/03/06/business/news/16_08_303_5_05.txt
The Imperial Valley — a desert region of 160,000 people and a notoriously high unemployment rate — is witnessing a surge in new homes for middle-income families and in the stores that cater to them. Homebuilders are betting the Imperial Valley will become San Diego’s next bedroom community, another example of how California’s climbing home prices are forcing people to live farther from work.
The 240-mile commute to San Diego and back is about four hours, but here it is easy to find a new home for less than $300,000. In San Diego, the median price of a resale home hit $580,000 in January.
“It’s the only affordable market left in Southern California,” said John Trotter, a senior vice president at Capstone Advisors Inc. of San Diego, which is planning to build thousands of homes.
Why don’t people just go 20 minutes south, and buy something like this instead? Are they really that scared? I know crossing the border can take some time, but still–better than a 240 mile round trip!
Alan
Maverick Leftist
There are many Americans living in Tijuana or Rosarito and working in San Diego.
It is much less attractive than it used to be because the border crossing now takes much longer under the post-9/11 heightened security. It used to be that if there were no lines at the border, the crossing took only a couple of minutes. Not anymore. No doubt it really wears on people to have a 30-60 minute wait at the border to cross into the U.S. every day, in addition to however long it takes to drive through TJ traffic and SD traffic to get to work.
What if you cross on foot, or by bicycle? If you have a ways to go, it seems to me you could use public transit, or have a car on each side of the border. I just drool over those awesome houses, especially given the contrast with the price of housing on the US side.
Alan
Maverick Leftist
It’s an interesting idea. However, I think it would be unprincipled to move to areas that couldn’t sustain the growth.
For example, many areas of the mountain and plains states depend on non-renewable groundwater – sealed aquifers that are projected to be depleted in the next generation even without new growth. And where there is surface water it is a highly contentious commodity.
(As a snarky aside, it would be interesting to know just how many of those newly arrived wingnuts in the Colo. Springs region that Rolfyboy alluded to are living on finite water. I’m guessing five figures, and I wouldn’t be surprised if it were six.)
but you could also argue that it is unethical to “cede” huge swaths of the nation to folks who elect politicians uninterested in managing and restraining growth…
and innovating ways to deal with it.
I don’t think anything is black and white….and, personally, I love small towns and rural areas and loathe the idea of paving over rural America.
So, that’s the challenge….not the punctuation point….
To be honest, rehabbing and rebuilding the wood and brick backbone of America is extremely PRO-environmental. Like the folks trying to build an arts community in Holyoke, Massachusetts.
If Whole Foods…and I use them just because they are an example everyone knows, not as an endorsement…were to move to a town of 25,000 folks and renovate and envirornmentally restore a set of downtown buildings. Would that be “wrong”?? Especially if they used solar power…as they’ve done here in Berkeley?
I don’t know, it’s an open question…something to think about.
…in red state America. Grew up in Nebraska. Just moved to the CT from Georgia…
I dunno. The “red states” I know don’t take too well to ex-urbanites, unless you’ve got a “reason” to be there (read: relatives). And changing the minds of these folks is sometimes like changing a massive sub-culture. Most liberals in these states live in their own mini-liberal enclaves, like metro Atlanta or Dekalb County in Georgia, or the 6 blocks of downtown Lincoln Nebraska that are right next to the Amtrak station.
Not trying to rain on your parade…just sayin’ that for me, personally, I’ve made the decision that my kid’s going to grow up with some culture and among a peer group that respects learning and knowledge.
“done your time” is a totally valid pov.
And, hell, it’s a FREE COUNTRY, right? That means something.
My point is that a FREE COUNTRY also means that if a bunch of folks want to move someplace, buy homes, develop land, contribute to the community, then it is their right to do so….whether they are “from” that region or not.
Frankly, every American citizen is equal…and we ALL know that and should live by it.
For me, it doesn’t matter how long you’ve been an American citizen and it shouldn’t…
both sides of my family were Minnesota pioneers, with all the good and bad that that entails. Now when I go back to the communities where we’re from, I may be viewed as an “urban liberal”…but, guess what…
I don’t care, and no one should. To be frank, folks use “intimidation” as a way to benefit THEM. We do it in cities, folks do it in rural areas….even to somebody like me who has a 165 year tradition there….whose great grandfather helped build the town!! In the words of Woody Guthrie…
This land is your land, this land is my land.
you’re coming from. My fam landed on these shores in 1635, so if those patriotic pretenders like Hannity think I’m moving to Canada after my ancestors fought in a revolution to ensure his right to be a loudmouth…
…he’s got another think comin’.
Just wanted to voice a little of my personal disappointment in some of these areas of the country.
I moved from LA to Fargo in January 04. I can say that the culture is much different but I’ve never had a bad experience with any natives. I have a bumper sticker that reads “If your not completely appalled, the you haven’t been paying attention” and I’ve never received a dirty look.
bush won %63 of the vote in ND but it was only a difference of 85,336 votes. I can also speak from experience when I say that the Schiavo circus pissed off a couple of hardcore repubs that I work with. Also, both our Senators and Congressman are Dems, so there is hope for red states like ND.
we just aren’t sure where yet. We’ve been thinking about rural Virginia because there is the possibility that my husband might find work in a suburb south of DC and we’d locate farther south from there — putting us in an affordable farming area. But, that’s still up in the air.
But, KO, for your idea to work, it’s not enough that some of us move out of our bubbles and plant the virus of liberalism in random rural locales. We’d need to identify specific towns to be purpled and congregate there in order to make a difference. Perhaps, a bit of research is required to select little towns outside of major metros where real estate is cheap…
Hey! Just give us a year or so. Colorado will be blue. We promise. Last election was great for the Democrats. No assistance needed, thanks.
So, please don’t move here. The Rockies are actually pretty ugly. The weather is usually terrible. And hailstorms! This is the worst state in the US for hailstorms. Plague! Prairie dogs spread it. This is really one of the worst places to live. You wouldn’t like it. Honest.
LOL. Why don’t you “just” split New York and California into twenty new states and pick up an extra dozen or so seats in each chamber that way?
A lot of–especially Eastern– Oregon is politically very red, but also beautiful and very desirable country!
I like the idea of diluting that red!
Just by being in the same state. 🙂
Alan
Maverick Leftist
deal blackjack.
I’ve said so many times before, but have often gotten reflexive dismissals like “what job am I going to find in Montana?” As you say, though, it doesn’t need to be a move to super red states, but from overwhelmingly blue states to the “purple” ones that are within reach.
Aside from those who live in California, Illinois, and New York, we should perhaps even be more concerned with getting Democrats to move out of solidly red states. Look at this map. African Americans are the group we Democrats can count on the most. But look at where most of their population is still distributed: in the “Black Belt” of Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, and South Carolina–all among the worst “red states” a progressive can imagine! They have to live there, in states run by the biological and ideological descendants of the racist whites who enslaved them and then inflicted segregation and Jim Crow on them as soon as Union troops left. Wouldn’t it make sense for them to get the hell out of there?
Alan
Maverick Leftist
On this comment is that what we should be looking for is not to shore up our party but, mine the Reps. for the ones that are abandoning their party and looking for a new home and are not comfortable with going all the way to Dem. We have to meet them halfway and welcome them and not keep them out because of the dogmatic attitude that seems to be emerging in, if not the whole party then at least DK and other dem sites.
As I have said before we are acting like there is this great river separating both side with no spits of land or boats, planes, or bridges to get across. I am for building bridges, planes and ships to cross the great divide as well as acceptance from both directions.
This is in MHO.
BTW I am a californian, living in a blue state and a red county.
Can you be more specific? What would you like to do to “bridge the gap”? (There are some gaps I could handle bridging, and others where I’d rather burn the bridges, KWIM?)
Alan
Maverick Leftist
Well I have outlined a good bit of it on my diary “converting the Red into purple” take a look at it and then let me know what you think. Please read my comments down thread as I flesh the thoughts out a bit more there.
http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2005/3/22/142132/826
That’s pretty cool, Diane. Though it seems you were debating them as much as (or more than) “reaching out” to them. Which is just what I’d do–I’m just naturally contentious. <g> Though at least I might get them off balance if they assume I was against the war, or support late term abortion, that type of thing, and I demonstrate otherwise.
Alan
Maverick Leftist
Well at one point I had a rather contentious commenter and he wasn’t getting my point, which I think a lot of Dems don’t and I think it is a point that we need to consider strongly, if we are to have any hope at all of prevailing.
I hope that you do and that was what I was getting at in my comments. If the dems are perceived as eating their own as well as the opponent, well then who would want to come and if it continues in this direction I am not sure I would want to stay.
Personally I wish we could have a viable third party made up of moderates on both sides and then we could vote for the man or woman or issues we truly agree with, not that I don’t already, but where one would not be comdemed and driven out for failing to follow party line which I think is a bunch of crapola in the first place.
So my views are what prompted me to step into the debate with you and Infidel and other places here and on DK, where I am trolling, looking for the troll police and calling them on this very thing.
So do you want to go over to the converting red to purple diary and debate this issue more? Let me know!
At some point we would BUY our country back.
What do you think the tribes are doing with the mountains of cash they’re making in their casinos?
😀
but I can’t help whenever I see this kinds of comments pointing out that American Indians are still the poorest ethnic group in the U.S., and that most reservations aren’t located near major cities where they can make lots of money from casinos. Of course, part of the problem is that those are also the reservations that white Americans normally never see.
Alan
Maverick Leftist
but the California tribes that are making casino money are indeed investing in real estate. Some of our local tribes have bought off-reservation downtown hotels and suburban golf courses, for example.
I think that it is already happening on the West coast and they call if Californication. It has already worked in Oregon, contributed in in Washington, and is on its way in Nevada and probably in New Mexico.
All those Bay Area libruls and Southern California Holywood types get tired of the high prices and stressful life and buy some land over the border. I hear that there are more Californians in Ashland than Oregonians.
These kinds of things will happen. Of course you are thinking about how to do that by design and for that we need investors to open the shops and plan the communities…
PS I am thinking about where to go to be politically effective as I consider a move back to the states later this year.
Free Wales from 600 years under the yoke of serfdom to our Lords and Masters in England (except for rugger, music, literature, poetry, singing and intellectual if lengthy discourse) and allow us to become your next state.
In return, you will get the bluest of blue populations and instant readjustment to the balance of power in House of Represntatives and Congress.
Of course, we would want you to retain our free health care, public services and Opera House subsidies. But, hey, we could then vote these things for you all.
We would, of course, accept that we would be required by you to leave behind the Price of Wales in the form of the Pretender Charles and his white (white?!!) gowned blushing young -strike that -bride. And Charlotte Church. We have been very keen to do that anyway.
Deal?
I mean, now that they have an independent parliment it wouldn’t be hard to incorporate them as a state…
I LOVE this idea. We could expand the “special relationship” to include the option of ethnicities in the UK and members of the Commonwealth to opt to join the United States.
Re: health care, etc…wouldn’t be too much different from what Californians are trying to do right now on the state level.
Start a petition – I’ll sign it 🙂
I have a much better suggestion.
Wales breaks free of England and then acquires fifty new counties across the pond. That way, we all get free health care, public services, and opera subsidies.
We’ll study up on the language. We promise. We really will.
Please take us. We really want to be Welsh.