I am posting an article I wrote back in the Fall/Winter of 2003-2004. It’s long as hell, so don’t feel the need to read it. Maybe print it out. It lost all potential for publication when Richard Clarke testified and verified most of my allegations.
What Was Bush Thinking On 9/11?
Millions around the world believe that Bush had foreknowledge of the 9/11 attacks.
Most are crackpots. But inconsistent statements and White House stonewalling has
given the conspiracy theorists plenty of material to work with and further damaged
U.S. credibility in the War on Terrorism.
By Martin W. Longman (aka BooMan)
When Democratic Presidential contender, Howard Dean, recently floated the theory that George W. Bush had received advanced warning of the 9/11 terror attacks, the response was swift and overwhelmingly hostile. Bush called it, “an absurd insinuation.” Former Republican Congressman and current MSNBC talk-host, Joe
Scarborough, spat, “I wonder what my reasonable Democratic friends are thinking today, as their party leadership becomes obsessed with crackpot conspiracy theories that only end up making the entire party look foolish and irrelevant. It’s gutter politics at its worst.” Conservative Washington Post columnist Charles Krauthammer used the occasion to coin a new diagnosis, “Bush Derangement Syndrome: the acute onset of paranoia in otherwise normal people in reaction to the policies, the presidency — nay — the very existence of George W. Bush.” Dean even got it from the left side of the Washington Post’s editorial staff when liberal lion, Richard Cohen wrote, “(Dean) was roundly, and rightly, lambasted for what he said, suggesting once again that about the only thing that stands between him and the Democratic presidential
nomination is his tongue.”
The thrust of Dean’s comments, made on the Diane Rehm Radio Show, was aimed at the administration’s withholding of information from the independent National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States, (informally known as the 9/11 Commission). Dean warned, “the trouble is that by suppressing that kind of
information, you lead to those kinds of theories, whether they have any truth to them
or not, and then eventually they get repeated as fact. So I think the president is taking
a great risk by suppressing the clear, the key information that needs to go to
the…commission.”
Intentionally or not, Dean suggested that the President’s reluctance to share information with the 9/11 Commission was to cover-up gross incompetence at best, and the intentional murder of 3,000 Americans, at worst. Making such a poignant and pregnant insinuation without adequate substantiation, Dean quickly learned, is to invite ridicule and outrage. Yet, a careful examination of the President’s actions as
the traumatic attacks unfolded, the administration’s comments afterwards, and
subsequent revelations about the extensive warnings our intelligence services received, leads to a discomforting conclusion. Either the President was not getting good intelligence briefings, wasn’t paying close attention to them, or something far more nefarious was at play. The administration’s attempts to prevent and stonewall the formal investigations of 9/11 only contribute to both global and domestic
suspicions of the latter possibility. As 9/11 widow Kristen Breitweiser, explained,
“What breeds these theories is that two years out, we have no authoritative account of
how it happened and why it happened.” The Bush administration needs to address the legitimate concerns raised by inconsistencies in the official line.
The Official Line
On the morning of 9/11, the President was in Sarasota, Florida. Just before 9:00 AM he arrived at the Emma E. Booker Elementary School to hold an event extolling the good work the school was doing teaching second-graders to read. He later recounted his arrival for Bill Sammon, the Senior White House correspondent for the Washington Times. Before heading in, he was getting a last second reminder on how the event was choreographed. As he and his personal assistant, Blake Gottesman, went through the details they were interrupted by Bush’s chief of staff, Andy Card, who said, “By the way, an aircraft flew into the World Trade Center.”1
The North Tower of the World Trade Center had been struck about thirteen minutes earlier (8:46:26 AM) while Bush was riding in his limousine. The aircraft was American Airlines’ Flight 11, presumably with Mohammed Atta at the helm. CNN had been broadcasting footage of the wounded tower belching smoke since 8:48, but
this, Bush told Sammon, was the first he had heard of it. How did the President react?
“And my first reaction was – as an old pilot – how could the guy have gotten so off course to hit the towers? What a terrible accident that is. The first report I heard was a light airplane, twin-engine airplane.”2
That is but one of the official stories, from the President’s own mouth, about how he first learned and reacted to the news that an aircraft had struck one of the Twin Towers. There have been others, which agree in some respects and not in others.
1 Fighting Back: The War on Terrorism, From Inside the Bush White House; p.41-42. By Bill Sammon.
2 Fighting Back: The War on Terrorism, From Inside the Bush White Hous e p.42 By Bill Sammon.
However, the essentials have remained the same. According to Bush, he was unaware that a plane had hit the World Trade Center for roughly eleven minutes after CNN began reporting it. He was unaware that any commercial planes had been
hijacked. His information was that it was “a light airplane, twin-engine airplane.”
That Bush was not overly concerned about this is confirmed by the offhand way that he recalls being informed. “By the way” Andy Card told him. He then proceeded into a holding room inside the school to take a call from his National Security
Advisor, Condoleezza Rice. After listening to her analysis, Rice remembers Bush replying, “what a terrible, it sounds like a terrible accident. Keep me informed.”3
Skeptics have latched onto these claims and questioned their plausibility. But the
President has put his own logs on the fire of controversy by giving contradictory accounts.
Bush’s Tells a Different Story in Town Hall
Meetings
On December 4th, 2001 at a town hall meeting in Orlando, Florida, Bush was asked about how he first learned about a crash at the WTC and how he reacted. He explained:
“I was sitting outside the classroom waiting to go in, and I saw an airplane hit the
tower – the TV was obviously on. And I used to fly, myself, and I said, well, there’s
one terrible pilot. I said, it must have been a horrible accident. But I was whisked off
there, I didn’t have much time to think about it.”
A month later, at a town hall meeting in Ontario, California Bush recalled:
4 http://cooperativeresearch.org/timeline/2002/abcnews091102.html
“Anyway, I was sitting there, and my Chief of Staff–well, first of all, when we walked into the classroom, I had seen this plane fly into the first building. There was a TV set on. And you know, I thought it was pilot error and I was amazed that anybody could make such a terrible mistake. And something was wrong with the
plane, or–anyway, I’m sitting there, listening to the briefing, and Andy Card came and said, “America is under attack.”
These two town hall explanations are basically the same, but they disagree with the story he told Bill Sammon. He told Sammon that he was informed by Andy Card before he entered the school as he was talking to Blake Gottesman. In the town hall versions he was informed by watching the first crash happen on a television monitor inside the school.
There were four planes that crashed on 9/11, but only one of them was captured on live television. That plane, Flight 175, crashed into the South Tower at 9:02:54 after the President had walked into the classroom. It was while the President was sitting in the classroom listening to children read that Andy Card interrupted (at approximately 9:07) and informed Bush about the second plane. His reaction was captured on tape
and replayed repeatedly in subsequent days.
The only footage of Flight 11 crashing into the North Tower twenty-one minutes earlier, was captured by French filmmaker Jules Naudet, while he was making a documentary about a probationary firefighter in lower Manhattan. That footage did
not air on television until September 12th. So, it is a physical impossibility that President Bush “had seen (a) plane fly into the first building”, either while he was sitting outside the classroom or when he was walking into it. If the President actually saw Flight 11 crash into the North Tower, he did so on a monitor in his limousine, and why he would have been watching a live feed of the WTC at 8:46 AM is a question with no innocent answer.
Perhaps Bush was merely embellishing his story to make it more interesting. It is also possible, in the rush of events, he formed an imperfect memory. Columnist Stephanie Schorow commented on this for the Boston Herald:
“Will you ever forget the moment you first heard about the Sept. 11 attacks?
That moment will be a marker for a generation, the moment the world changed. For an earlier generation, the marker was hearing that John F. Kennedy had been assassinated. For this generation, it will be how and when they heard about the first plane striking the World Trade Center. Memories of that moment remain posted on the Web, fodder for future historians. Which is why, ever since the one year anniversary, various Web citizens have been puzzling and arguing over President George W. Bush’s recollection of the first moments of Sept. 11.”4
More than just Web citizens are puzzling, because the pieces don’t fit together.
The two versions are mutually exclusive. While this may not be evidence of a grand conspiracy, it does suggest that the President dissembled about one of the most important moments of his life and the history of the nation.
As with a sworn witness at trial, the President’s inconsistent testimony in one area
can shed doubt about his credibility in other areas. All of Bush’s recollections, as well as those of other administration official’s, have agreed at least in this: no one
4 The Boston Herald, October 22, 2002 NET LIFE; What did Bush see and when did he see it? By Stephanie Schorow
told him about an “accident” at the WTC until after he arrived at the school (between
8:55-8:59). Many people are skeptical about that assertion. In an open letter to the President, 9/11 widow Ellen Mariani wrote:
“On the morning of the attack, you and members of your staff were fully aware of the unfolding events yet you chose to continue on to the Emma E. Booker Elementary School to proceed with a scheduled event and “photo op”. While our
nation was under attack you did not appear to blink an eye or shed a tear. You continued on as if everything was “business as usual”.”
What Did the President Know and When Did He Know It?
The President had arrived in Florida on September 10th, 2001 and made an appearance at the Justina Elementary School in Jacksonville. Bush’s “No Child Left Behind” education bill was held up in conference and the administration was trying to drum up support for its passage. In the late afternoon he made a brief flight south to Sarasota, where he lodged at the luxurious, Colony Beach and Tennis Resort. The next morning Bush awoke before 6 AM and went to the nearby Resort at Longboat Key Club with Bloomberg News reporter Richard Keil, to have a jog around one of their golf courses. Bush then returned to his hotel room, showered, put on a suit, and sat down for his daily intelligence briefing at 8 AM. Right at this moment (7:59 AM by most accounts, 8:02 by NORAD) American Airlines Flight 11 took off out of Logan Airport in Boston, Massachusetts. The Boeing 767 was approximately fourteen minutes behind schedule for its trip to Los Angeles.
Bush’s briefing lasted less than twenty minutes and included a warning of an elevated risk of terrorism. (As we shall see, intelligence suggesting a major terror attack was immanent had been coming in all summer long). It was during this briefing that Flight 11 stopped responding to Air Traffic Control (8:13 AM) and
turned off its transponder. When the controllers gave permission to climb to 35,000 feet there was no response and the “blip” on the radar screen disappeared. Around 8:20 AM Flight 11 began to deviate from its flight plan and, after seven minutes without radio contact, the Air Traffic Controllers became very concerned about a
hijack. At 8:24 AM that possibility was confirmed when two brief cockpit transmissions were picked up:
“We have some planes. Just stay quiet, and you’ll be O.K. We are returning to the airport… Nobody move, everything will be O.K. If you try to make any moves, you’ll endanger yourself and the airplane. Just stay quiet.”
Another transmission reiterated these instructions at 8:33:59:
“Nobody move please; we are going back to the airport. Don’t try to make any stupid moves.”
Just about the time of this last transmission Bush entered his 2001 Cadillac DeVille stretch limousine and headed for his appearance at Booker Elementary to continue his “war on illiteracy”. When Flight 11 crashed into the North Tower at 8:46:26 AM President Bush was in transit. The seven-seat limo was designed by the General Motors Specialty Vehicle Group, hand-customed and equipped to be the most
technologically advanced car in the world.5
Michael O’Malley, Cadillac General Manager, has been quoted saying that just as Air Force One is a flying Oval Office, the Presidential limo “provides the same amenities for our nation’s leader while
5 Los Angeles Times January 24, 2001, NEW ‘FIRST CADDY’ ON DUTY AT WHITE HOUSE, TERRIL YUE JONES.
traveling on the ground.”6 Los Angeles Times reporter, Terril Yue Jones characterized
its capabilities, “…assume that President Bush has enough satellite communications technology at his fingertips to wage war from the back seat.”
In spite of the all this communications technology, all official accounts, claim that
no one made the President aware of a major “accident” during his journey from
Longboat Key to downtown Sarasota. But other travelers in the motorcade were made aware. Kia Baskerville, a CBS News White House producer recalled, “as the presidential motorcade headed to President Bush’s first event, I received a call on my cell phone from a producer who said that a plane had just hit the World Trade Center
in New York.” The White House Press Secretary, Ari Fleischer, was informed by pager as well as by radio. As the Christian Science Monitor reported on September 17th, 2001, “about six blocks from the school, a news photographer overheard a radio transmission. Press Secretary Ari Fleischer would be needed on arrival to discuss reports of some sort of crash. The radio also said that Mr. Bush had a call waiting for
him at his holding room in the school from national security adviser Condoleezza Rice.”7
And U.S. Navy Captain Deborah Loewer, the director of the White House Situation Room, was contacted by her deputy in the Situation Room, who informed her about the crash. 8
Skeptics think it is unlikely that the President was not alerted to the accident until after he arrived at the school when many other people in the motorcade were. The report of a radio transmission increases their doubt. To say the least, it seems strange
6 Los Angeles Times January 24, 2001, NEW ‘FIRST CADDY’ ON DUTY AT WHITE HOUSE, TERRIL YUE JONES.
7 A Changed World, by Peter Grier The Christian Science Monitor September 17, 2001
8 http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/10/29/earlyshow/leisure/books/main527361.shtml
that millions of people around the world were aware for ten minutes, or more, before anyone thought it necessary to inform the President.
The growing suspicion that Bush may have known about the hijackings and deliberately failed to take actions to prevent them is fed by such oddities in the official line. But the real crux of the matter has to do with the President and his handler’s decision, once he was informed about the first crash, to continue on with his
reading demonstration as scheduled. Mindy Kleinberg, another 9/11 widow, wonders
“that a national emergency was in progress. Yet President Bush was allowed to enter a classroom full of young children and listen to the students read.”
The White House’s explanation for this is that the President did not realize an emergency was in
progress. According to them, Bush had been told that the first plane was small, had initially thought that it was an accident, and had been stunned and unprepared when Andrew Card leaned down and whispered in his ear that a second plane had hit the WTC and the country was under attack. For many, the difficulty in believing this explanation lies in an analysis of the extensive warnings the government had received
over the summer that we might be attacked by civilian aircraft.
The President’s Trip to Italy
The President had just traveled to Europe in late July, 2001. The main event was a G-8 economic conference in Genoa, Italy. In recent years, major economic summits had been drawing large numbers of protestors, and had resulted in riots in Seattle just the year before. So, security for the leaders of the eight major powers was a major concern. But this concern was greatly enhanced more than a month before the
conference, when foreign intelligence services began to pick up warnings that Osama bin- Laden’s, al-Qaeda organization was planning to make an assassination attempt on Bush, or, perhaps all eight leaders.
A full month before the summit, on June 22nd, 2001, the New York Post reported:
“President Bush’s meetings with world leaders at next month’s G-8 summit in Italy might be moved to an aircraft carrier or cruise ship because of terrorist threats, Bush administration sources said. Security officials from several countries
are discussing threats by Osama bin Laden to assassinate Bush and commit other acts of violence during the Genoa summit… Security officials were said to be alarmed about the vulnerability of the Genoa summit site to remote-controlled airplanes and other exotic weapons.9
The threat was taken so seriously that CNN reported, “…the U.S. President may be staying at U.S. Camp Darby military base in Livorno or offshore on the American aircraft carrier, USS Enterprise to avoid any terrorist risk.”10
In the end, the Italians cleared all the air space around Genoa, put fighters in the air
and anti-aircraft batteries on the ground, while keeping the sleeping arrangements of the various leaders a closely guarded secret.
After the disaster in September, Italian Deputy Prime Minister Gianfranco Fini reflected back on the precautions they had taken in July, “Many people were ironic about the Italian secret services. But in fact they got the information that there was the possibility of an attack against the U.S. president using an airliner. That’s why we
9 The New York Post June 22, 2001 THREATS MAY MOVE SUMMIT, NILES LATHEM and ANDY SOLTIS
10 http://www.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/europe/07/17/genoa.security/
closed the airspace and installed the missiles. Those who made cracks should now
think a little.”11
For those who haven’t experienced it, it is difficult to gauge the normal reaction to
being told that terrorists intend use an airliner to kill you, but it seems the idea that al-Qaeda might use aircraft as weapons should have been quite fresh in Bush’s mind.
Even if the initial report Bush received was of a “light airplane, twin-engine airplane”, the recent concern about “remote-controlled airplanes” in Genoa should have set off alarm bells.
Terror Warnings
If the fright and disruption of his sleeping arrangements in Genoa didn’t make much of an impression on Bush, there were plenty of other reminders that al-Qaeda was gunning for us. Chief among these were warnings coming in from foreign leaders and intelligence agencies that suggested an immanent threat of terrorist attack.
In the summer of 2001, the Jordanian General Intelligence Division (GID), made a communications intercept that contained not only the basic outlines of the 9/11 operation, but even its code name: “the big wedding”12. Jordan then relayed its contents to Washington and to Germany. Although the intercept did not mention
hijacking or any specific date, it did clearly state that the attack was to be within the
continental United States and that aircraft would be used. This was a warning of an
attack with aircraft, not a mere hijacking. John K. Cooley, of the International Herald
Tribune, after confirming this story, commented, “When it became clear that the
11 http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-092701genoa.story
12 In Arabic, “Al Ourush al Kabir”
information about the intercept was embarrassing to Bush administration officials and congressmen who at first denied that there had been any such warnings before Sept.11, senior Jordanian officials backed away from their earlier confirmations.” 13
Two days after 9/11 Germany’s daily Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung (FAZ), citing anonymous German intelligence officers, reported that U.S. and Israeli intelligence agencies had at least three months warning that Middle Eastern terrorists were plotting attacks on “symbols of American and Israeli culture” using hijacked
commercial aircraft as weapons. As in Jordan, German revelations of this type quickly dried up, but the FAZ report is partially corroborated by a report in the Times of London from June 14th, 2002. According to the Times:
“Britain’s spy chiefs warned the Prime Minister less than two months before September 11 that Osama bin Laden’s al-Qaeda group was in “the final stages” of preparing a terrorist attack in the West…The heads of MI6, MI5 and GCHQ,
the signals eavesdropping centre, suggested that while the most likely targets were American or Israeli, there could be British casualties. Their warning was included in a report sent to Tony Blair and other senior Cabinet Ministers on July 16. But the agency chiefs admitted the “timings, targets and methods of attack”
were not known…The JIC [Cabinet Office Joint Intelligence Committee] prediction of an al-Qaeda attack was based on intelligence gleaned not just from MI6 and GCHQ but also from US agencies, including the CIA and the National
Security Agency[NSA], which has staff working jointly with GCHQ. The CIA
13 The U.S. Ignored Foreign Warnings, Too by John K. Cooley The International Herald Tribune May 21, 2002.
sometimes has a representative on the JIC. The contents of the July 16 warning would have been passed to the Americans, Whitehall sources confirmed.”14
Even Bush friendly Fox News has reported that, “in July and August [2001], British intelligence shared “general” information that it had learned through surveillance of Khalid al-Fawwaz, a Saudi Arabian dissident who has publicly acknowledged being a bin Laden operative…” Fox News further acknowledged
summertime warnings from India, Israel, France and reported of Russia: “President Vladimir Putin has said publicly that he ordered his intelligence agencies to alert the United States last summer that suicide pilots were training for attacks on U.S. targets.” 15
Some of this intelligence of an immanent attack may have never reached the highest echelons of the American intelligence community. But it is clear that much of it did. That the CIA and FBI were very concerned during the summer of 2001 that a highly destructive, even spectacular, attack was looming can be seen from the testimony of Eleanor Hill. Ms. Hill was the Staff Director for the Joint Inquiry Staff,
the congressional committee that investigated 9/11. When she testified before the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, on September 18, 2002, she characterized the atmosphere at the time:
“…in the eyes of the Intelligence Community, the world did appear increasingly dangerous for Americans in the spring and summer of 2001. During that time
14 Spy Chiefs Warned Ministers of al-Qaeda Attacks, by Michael Evans, The London Times, June 14, 2002
15 http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,53065,00.html
period the Intelligence Community experienced a significant rise in information indicating that Bin Ladin and al-Qa’ida intended to strike against United States interests in the very near future. Some individuals within the Intelligence
Community have suggested that the increase in threat reporting was unprecedented, at least in terms of their own experience.”
This was not news to the committee because on February 6th, 2002, DCI George Tenet had told them that in July and August 2001, “it was very clear in our own minds that this country was a target. There was no texture to that feeling. We wrote about it, we talked about it, we warned about it. The nature of the warning was almost
spectacular.”
Given this level of anxiety it is easy to understand the July 26th, 2001 report of CBS News Correspondent, Jim Stewart. According to Stewart, the FBI, citing security concerns, had advised Attorney General John Ashcroft to fly noncommercial aircraft for the remainder of his term. Breaking precedent, the Justice Department leased a G-3 Gulfstream that cost “more than $1,600 an hour to fly.”16
The Memo
It was within this context of alarm that Tenet briefed the President on August 6th, 2001.
The briefing had been instigated on July 5th, the same day the Federal Aviation Authority [FAA] issued a circular to the airlines warning that terrorists had ”an
16 http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/07/26/national/main303601.shtml
intention of using explosives in an airport terminal.” Disturbed by all the “noise in the
system” Bush had requested that Condoleezza Rice put together an analysis of what al-Qaeda’s intentions might be. Now as Bush began a month long “working vacation” at his Crawford, Texas ranch, he got an opportunity to see the results. It was a document referred to as a Presidential Daily Briefing (PDB). Beyond that the details are disputed. The administration claims the briefing was titled `Bin Laden Determined to Strike the United States’. It is a tightly guarded document with very limited circulation within the government. But leaks have suggested that the title was actually `Bin Laden Determined to Strike in the United States’ (emphasis added). The subtle difference in emphasis has become important because the administration spent so much time emphasizing that intelligence that summer was focused abroad. A memo reviewed by the President just a month before the attacks, that focused on
domestic hijacking attacks, would severely undermine the official line.
By the time word of this memo leaked, in May 2002, eight months had passed since the attacks, and the administration had insisted emphatically that we had no warning.
No one could have predicted 9/11, they said, and nothing could have prevented it. It came as a shock to hear that the President had been specifically briefed on the subject of al-Qaeda hijacking. Tom Brokaw led the NBC Nightly News by announcing: “at the White House tonight it is all hands on deck as the White House tries to deal with a storm of criticism”.17 The pro-Bush New York Post’s headline blared, “BUSH KNEW”.
The father of WTC casualty, Bill Doyle, said at the time, “I believe our whole government let people down”. Ron Willet, whose son’s phone cut out when
17 The Hotline, May 17, 2002, FIRST PUBLIC COMMENTS COME AFTER A DAY OF DAMAGE CONTROL
the North Tower was struck, agreed. Asked whether he thought the government shared some responsibility for the loss of his son, Willet replied, “I have to. We had the suspicions all along. We’d talked about the possibility of the government knowing.”18
On May 16th, a shaken Dr. Rice held a press conference to do damage control.
She tried to downplay the significance of the leak and the memo, claiming it was merely a page and half long and was an, “analytic report, which did not have warning information in it of the kind that said, they are talking about an attack against so forth or so on…(it) mentioned hijacking, but hijacking in the traditional sense… the overwhelming bulk of the evidence was that this was an attack that was likely to take
place overseas.”
When asked why the administration had not volunteered this information she responded, “this all came out as a result of our preparations to help the committees on the Hill that are getting ready to review the events. It wasn’t–frankly, it didn’t pop to the front of people’s minds, because it’s one report among very, very many that you get.”
Interestingly, the Bush administration refused to provide access to this memo to those “committees on the Hill” whose very existence they did their utmost to discourage.
Over White House objections, the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence and the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence had decided in February 2002, to conduct a “Joint Inquiry into the activities of the U.S.
18 Springfield News -Leader (Springfield, MO) May 26, 2002 Families differ on what they want to know, Eric Eckert.
Intelligence Community in connection with the terrorist attacks perpetrated against our nation on September 11, 2001.” Eventually this Joint Inquiry produced a report (officially S. Rept. 107-351 and H. Rept. 107-792) that ran 832 pages. The result was so unsatisfying that the families of 9/11 victims raised a public outcry leading to the formation of a new independent commission called the National Commission on
Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States (informally known as “The 9/11 Commission”).
Former Democratic Senator Max Cleland, a member of the new commission who recently resigned, characterized this process:
“The joint inquiry made up of Democrats and Republican members of Congress…issued a report this summer , but they couldn’t get at the PDB’s
[Presidential Daily Briefings]. They kicked the can down the street so that the 9/11 Commission could get at the full story. That’s the reason for this independent commission, with the time and energy and staff to get at all of this. Had the Joint Intelligence Committee been able to do its job, there wouldn’t have even been a 9/11 commission.”19
But the administration has set barriers to even this new commission seeing the August 6th memo, which may not have been as short as a page and a half. According to Oliver Schröm, a reporter with the German newsweekly, Die Zeit, the memo ran “11 and one- half printed pages, instead of the usual two to three.” The truth about this memo may never be known, because the White House has the Commission by the short hairs.
Technically, they have subpoena power to force the administration to turn over the document. But, the Commission is only funded until May of 2004, and
19 Salon Magazine “The president ought to be ashamed”, 11/21/03, Eric Boehlert
if Bush exerts executive privilege he can tie the matter up in the courts and run out the clock. So, Thomas Kean, the Chairman of the Commission has negotiated some very unfavorable terms just to get any access at all. Only four members of the commission will be allowed to look at the most sensitive materials and the White House can deny them the right to take notes or even to share information with other members.
Moreover, the White House reserves the right to decide what materials are relevant even within documents. Cleland says this arrangement is an attempt to, “kick this can down past the elections”, and adds, “It should be a national scandal.” Responding to the deal, Matthew Sellitto, whose son died in the attacks, said, “I have a lack of faith in the administration. How else can I feel?”
If the British Sunday Herald can be believed, the content of the memo has the potential to damage Bush’s reelection prospects if it is publicly exposed. An article published 5/19/02 claimed:
“Britain gave President Bush a categorical warning to expect multiple airline hijackings by the al-Qaeda network a month before the September 11 attacks which killed nearly 3000 people and triggered the international war against terrorism…According to US government officials, the British warning of al-Qaeda plans to hijack US airliners was contained in a crucial briefing sent to Bush on August 6, a month before the attacks on the World Trade Centre and the Pentagon.”.20
20 http://www.sundayherald.com/24822
President Bush insists that he didn’t know “that the enemy was going to use airplanes to kill on that fateful morning.” Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle responds, “I think the question is, why didn’t he know? If the information was made
available, why was he kept in the dark? If the president of the United States doesn’t have access to this kind of information, there’s something wrong with the system.”
International and Domestic Skepticism
The rise in global anti-Americanism since Bush took the United States on a path to war in Iraq is well known. The alarming growth of conspiracy theories about 9/11 is less so. Americans might expect many in the Islamic world to reject the idea that Muslims were responsible for such an atrocity and, indeed, that is increasingly true.
UPI columnist, Arnaud de Borchgrave recently observed that “It is becoming increasingly hard to find Arabs and Muslims who believe 9/11 was an attack against the World Trade Center and the Pentagon by al-Qaida terrorists.”21
Yet, this conspiratorial thinking goes beyond the Muslim community to include our closest
traditional allies. In France, journalist Thierry Meysson has a bestseller called “11
Septembre: L’Effroyable Imposture” (9/11: The Big Lie). The book alleges that Flight 77 did not really hit the Pentagon and that members of the U.S. military carried out the attacks to rally the country for a series of wars. Despite its bizarre premise (where did the flight go, then?) the book had a bigger single-week gross than any European book ever published.
In Germany, journalist Mathias Broecker penned “Conspiracies, Conspiracy Theories and the Secrets of September 11” which has sold over 100,000 copies.
21 Commentary: Loony lucubrations, ARNAUD DE BORCHGRAVE, WASHINGTON, Oct. 6 (UPI).
Broecker made the case that unanswered questions about September 11th suggest the possibility of an enormous cover-up by the Bush administration. The book was so successful that a follow-up has recently been released. In Britain, The Times of
London recently noted the prevalence of people asking questions about what really happened on the morning of Sept. 11, 2001: “But for millions of people around the globe, the answer is clear: the US government knew the attacks were coming and allowed them to happen. The only mystery is whether the perpetrators were Mossad, the Israeli intelligence agency, or the Saudis. Or the Swiss. Or possibly even the Canadians.”22
Several attempts have been made to explain away the doubters and dismiss their concerns. Yet, even these attempts show signs of unease. Kelly Peterson of the Ottawa Citizen, in the process of mocking the conspiracy theorists, paused to ask:
“Why did Mr. Bush blithely go on with his public appearance after learning about the first attack? How could the U.S. defences around the Capitol and the Pentagon have failed so spectacularly? And it’s downright eerie that the bin Laden family invested in the Carlyle Group, an equity firm with large defence industry holdings for which Mr. Bush Sr. is a senior adviser, and in which several other high-profile
U.S. politicians have been involved.”
It would be a mistake to attribute this interna tional skepticism solely to knee-jerk resentment of Bush’s foreign policy, the War on Terror, or American power. There is plenty of domestic skepticism, as well. Perhaps the most telling skeptics are the plethora of 9/11 widows and survivors that have joined the choir. Mindy Kleinberg’s
22 Sunday Times (London) September 14, 2003, Plot thickens with Mossad, US and Swiss taking blame, Jon Ungoed-Thomas.
husband Alan, worked on 104th floor of the North Tower. Mrs. Kleinberg made a memorable appearance at the second public hearing of the 9/11 Commission. Talking specifically about the President’s actions on the morning of 9/11, she posed a series of tough questions:
“Before the President walked into the classroom NORAD had sufficient information that the plane that hit the WTC was hijacked. At that time, they also had knowledge that two other commercial airliners, in the air, were also hijacked.
It would seem that a national emergency was in progress. Yet President Bush was allowed to enter a classroom full of young children and listen to the students read. Why didn’t the Secret Service inform him of this national emergency? When is a President supposed to be notified of everything the agencies know? Why was the President permitted by the Secret Service to remain in the Sarasota elementary
school? Was this Secret Service protocol? In the case of a national emergency, seconds of indecision could cost thousands of lives; and it’s precisely for this reason that our government has a whole network of adjuncts and advisors to insure that these top officials are among the first to be informed–not the last.
Where were these individuals who did not properly inform these top officials? Where was the breakdown in communication?”23
And Lorie van Auken, another September 11th widow, commented stingingly, “I couldn’t stop watching the president sitting there, listening to second-graders, while my husband was burning in a building.”24
23 First public hearing of the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States Statement of Mindy Kleinberg, on March 31, 2003.
24 New York Observer, August 25, 2003, Four 9/11 Moms Battle Bush, Gail Sheehy.
Kleinberg and Van Auken’s outrage arises mainly from the fact that in spite of being informed of an airplane “accident” involving the World Trade Center, President Bush decided not to take decisive action or to personally ascertain the facts, but went ahead with his prescheduled appearance at the Emma E. Booker Elementary School with a class of second graders. But it goes deeper than that.
The first plane crashed at 8:46 am, and was reported by CNN at 8:48. Millions of people all over the world knew that a plane had crashed into the WTC for over ten minutes, the White House maintains, before anyone bothered to tell the President.
Condi Rice didn’t feel the urgency to contact him immediately but was willing to wait for him to arrive at the school. Since he arrived at the school shortly before nine, and had already settled into the classroom by no later than 9:03, it is clear that Rice did not have a very long conversation with him. She does recollect him saying, “it sounds like a terrible accident. Keep me informed.” Was Rice, the National Security Advisor, whose job it is to coordinate national security, really unaware that NORAD
had at least two other suspected hijacks in the air? After all, approximately forty minutes earlier Flight 11 had inadvertently broadcast the message, “We have some planes.”
Even if she wasn’t aware of it, might she not have reminded Bush that the WTC was a terrorist target, of his August 6th briefing, and that an accident was unlikely?
Whatever the case, it doesn’t appear that Bush was too concerned by what Rice had to tell him. As Jena Heath of Cox News reported on September 12, 2001, “Bush did not appear preoccupied as he introduced Education Secretary Rod Paige and shook hands with Sandra Kay Daniels…There was no sign that Rice had just told Bush about the
first attack on New York’s World Trade Center during a telephone call”.25
This sanguine attitude is especially strange because he has at least twice publicly claimed to have watched a plane crash into the towers just prior to walking in and shaking hands. If that is just a faulty memory or casual embellishment, we still have to evaluate Bush’s decision to go ahead with the reading lesson rather than make any phone calls or find a television. Apparently his political strategist Karl Rove, and his Chief of Staff Andy Card also thought this was appropriate. Surprisingly, even the Secret Service had no objections, although they might have been expected to fear a
repeat of the threat Bush had faced in Italy. But if this all seems strange, what happened next is even stranger.
At 9:02:54 Flight 175 struck the South Tower. In a nearby holding room, Bush’s entourage watched in horror. At this point there was no longer any question that the greatest national emergency in American history was in progress. Andy Card
considered his options. He needed to inform the President but he decided it would be best not to disrupt the reading lesson. Quietly slipping into the classroom, he carefully crafted his words, as he waited for a break in the action.
Then he leaned down and whispered to the President of the United States that “a second plane has hit the second tower. America is under attack.” But before the President could ask any
questions he walked away, out of camera shot. Bush looked to the back of the room
25 Bush Vows To Punish Attackers And Those Who Harbored Them by Jena Heath,
Cox News, September 12, 2001.
where Ari Fleischer was trying to catch his eye. He held up a legal pad on which he had written “Don’t say anything yet.”
So, Bush stayed put. He composed himself. And then, to quote from the widely disseminated cooperativeresearch.org article, An Interesting Day: President Bush’s Movements and Actions on 9/11, by skeptics Allan Wood and Paul Thompson:
“Bush picked up the book and began to read with the children. In unison, the children read out loud, “The – Pet – Goat. A – girl – got – a – pet – goat. But – the -goat – did – some – things – that – made – the – girl’s – dad – mad.”
Bush mostly listened, but occasionally asked the children a few questions to encourage them.”
Bush went through with the reading assignment as though nothing had happened.
Washington Times reporter Bill Sammon described Bush’s demeanor in his highly complimentary book on Bush, Fighting Back: The War on Terrorism- From Inside the White House. “Now that the lesson was over, Bush would finally be able to
return to the holding room and get to work. But there was no sense in rushing his exit…He decided to remain seated, as if he were in no hurry whatsoever to the leave the classroom…The notoriously punctual President…was now lollygagging as if he didn’t want the session to end.”
He asked the children if they practiced their reading and was happy to hear that they
did, “Oh that’s great,” purred Bush, smiling as if he didn’t have a care in the world.”
Bush’s press handler, Gordon Johndroe, began herding the press out of the classroom, but Bush lingered on to chat with Principal Gwendolyn Tose-Rigell. Not until all the press had run out to find a television, did the President finally leave and head over to the holding room. Karl Rove later told Tim Russert what happened next:
“And as he came into the staff room, the television was playing–was replaying the footage of the second plane flying into the World Trade Center, and the president looked–walked in, looked at the television set and said, `We’re at war.'”
A lot of focus has been directed on the performance of the FAA and NORAD.
People question why it took so long to get our jets in the air. But, ultimately, it didn’t
matter because the only person with the authority to have the hijacked flights shot
down delayed too long in issuing the order. This point is made clear from the following exchange between 9/11 Commission chairmen Kean and Hamilton and the commander on the day of the attacks, Air Force Major General Larry Arnold:
HAMILTON: Now one of the things that curious to me, General Arnold, you said that you did not learn of the presidential order until after the United 93 had already crashed. That was about a little after 10:00 in the morning. The first notice of difficulty here was at 8:20 in the morning, when a transponder goes off on the
American Flight 11. I don’t know how significant that is. But 20 minutes later, you had notification of a possibly hijack. So there’s a long lapse of time here between the time you are initially alerted and you receive the order that you could shoot that aircraft down. Am I right about that?
ARNOLD: That’s right.
HAMILTON: In your time line, why don’t you put in there when you were notified?
SCOTT: For which flight, sir?
HAMILTON: Well, (inaudible) getting the notification from the president of the United States that you have the authority to shoot a commercial aircraft down is a pretty significant event. Why would that not be in your time line?
SCOTT: I don’t know when that happened.
HAMILTON: Had you ever received that kind of a notice before?
ARNOLD: Not to my knowledge.
HAMILTON: So this was the first time in the history of the country that such an order had ever been given, so far as you know.
ARNOLD: Yes, sir. I’m sure there’s a log that would tell us that, and I appreciate the question.
HAMILTON: Yes. Maybe you could let us know that. And then, finally, as I understand your testimony, it was not possible to shoot down any of these aircraft before they struck. Is that basically correct?
ARNOLD: That is correct. In fact, the American Airlines 77, if we were to have arrived overhead at that particular point, I don’t think that we would have shot that aircraft down.
HAMILTON: Because?
ARNOLD: Well, we’d have not been given authority to…
HAMILTON: You didn’t have authority at that point.
ARNOLD: And you know, it is through hindsight that we are certain that this was a coordinated attack on the United States.
KEAN: But, had you gotten scrambled earlier, notified earlier of 77’s deviance about when it turned east, for instance, certainly you could have got the F-16’s there and presumably there would have been time to communicate to either get or be denied authority, no, for 77?
ARNOLD: I believe that could be true. I believe that’d be true. It would have had to happen very fast. But, I believe that to be true.
HAMILTON: What efforts were made that day to contact the president to seek that authority?
ARNOLD: I do not know.
Quite aside from any precautions that might have been made to prevent the attacks, the President is, and was, the only official empowered to authorize the downing of a passenger jet, and on the morning of 9/11 the President did not issue that order in time to down any of the four hijacked planes. That fact could be the result of an innocent failure to comprehend the magnitude of the threat, an honest mistake of a
shocked, ill-prepared, and poorly briefed President, or, as many cynics claim, evidence of a conspiracy.
If we give the President the benefit of the doubt that he is not a mass murderer, it appears that the White House has tried to gloss over this failure, as well as the extent of specific warnings to our civil aviation, in the interest of calming a jittery nation and protecting the image of the President. In the process, they have made inconsistent and incompatible and sometimes misleading statements, while consistently resisting all formal investigations. But as international unease and distrust of Bush’s handling of the War on Terrorism grows, it is more important than ever that the administration come clean about the mistakes that were made. If they initially obfuscated in the wake of a devastating attack to buck up American confidence in the President, that can be forgiven. But if they don’t explain the President’s actions on the morning of 9/11, the failure of our air defenses, and cooperate with investigators they will inadvertently promote theories that America perpetrated the attacks on ourselves.
The risk, that Dean so sloppily tried to explain, is that Bush will cause damage in our
international relations that could extend well beyond the current administration.
I tried to read all you wrote above and didn’t see any mention of the Norad stand down that day, 9/11. Have you included that in your assesment.
Also the war games:
http://www.oilempire.us/standdown.html
“”On 9/11, the multiple “war games” scheduled at the same time as the attacks resulted in numerous false alarms that temporarily confused the air defense system, making it more difficult to respond effectively. One of these “war games” was essentially a “fire drill” type exercise at the National Reconnaissance Office headquarters near Dulles Airport, Virginia, which simulated the emergency response procedures needed if a plane hit their compound while on the landing approach at Dulles. (This exercise ensured the evacuation of most of the people in the NRO at the same time that 9/11 began — which probably made it more difficult for them to use the spy satellites to track the hijackings.)”””
When I was doing research on this last year I came across a site that had detailed analysis of the Pentagon, attack inlcluding videos from a gas station across the street showing the sreak that hit as well as the shadow of the object and much other info, was not the shadow of a plane, etc. I lost the link due to Computer failure, so I will try to locate again.
http://www.freedomfiles.org/war/pentagon.htm
Down near the bottom of the very long page, is a video of the actual crash time and the resulting explosions, 2 of them, one red and one black. Detailed pictures of crash site, etc.
The article was intended for mainstream publication, and almost got there…
The Norad stand-down is controversial.
Conspiracy theories about Flight 77 are amusing, but total bullshit.
There were eyewitnesses to the crash, basically anyone on I-95 at the time.
I guess the only question about Flight 77 would be, did they intentionally crash into the empty, re-fortified side of the building?
But we’ll never know that, or pretty much anything else about 9/11.
You will check out the link I posted above your comment, despite your preset position on this subject.
And I have to make a correction the explosions were red and white, not red and black at the crash of pentagon as I said in my post above.
I’ve seen em all Diane. I did a tremendous amount of research into 9/11 and all the conspiracy theories. The Flight 77 conspiracy theories are the worst of the lot.
The do do a good job of making their case.
That is, if you ignore the obvious…which is that Flight 77 crashed into the Pentagon.
This comes from Canadian LGen K.R. Pennie’s statements to the Canadian Standing Committee on National Defence and Veterans Affairs about events at NORAD headquarters on 9/11.
We were somewhat fortunate in the sense that there were two things happening on that day that made our response a little bit better than it otherwise might have been. One was that there was a Russian exercise where they were flying their long-range bombers. What they do is fly their long-range bombers out of area. They fly into the Arctic, and they sometimes come and have a brush against our air defence identification zones in the north, either Alaskan or Canadian. So we had our aircraft deployed north, and we were watching their exercise.
We also had our own exercise going, a NORAD exercise ongoing, where we were exercising our own capabilities. In fact, that was a bit of an issue for some of my staff in NORAD because we were having to do the two things simultaneously. That meant that in Cheyenne Mountain we had some people in fact doing these functions.
We happened to have a Canadian, who is now my replacement down in Colorado Springs, General Findley. He was the operations officer, the two-star in charge of operations. He had elected to do the night shift because at night he could keep a better watch on the Russian flying activity, because that happens to take place during their day, which is our night. He had just completed a 12-hour shift and monitored our own exercise. >
From this and other sources, it does seem that there was at least one NORAD exercises running that day, and answers regarding Operation Northern Guardian, Vigilant Warrior, and Northern Vigilance have certainly been few and far between.
On February 16th of this year, Congresswoman Cynthia Mckinney, tried to get Defence Donald Rumsfeld and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Richard B. Myers to answer on the record this question: What about the war games? Link here.
Great diary, and until the questions all get answered it remains as timely as ever.
Do you now regret attacking Dean for raising this issue?
I wonder why Dems always attack each other like that.
Anyway I was wondering why you thinkl / thought this was true:
“the President is, and was, the only official empowered to authorize the downing of a passenger jet”
It’s just that I would assume it took no more authority than shooting down any other plane. besides the US does shoot down civilian airplanes all the time in Colombia doesn’t it? And there was that big Iranian airliner they shot down. Are you saying the president has to ok all these attacks?
As I understand it this line was just BS that they made up to cover their ass after the fact.
it doesn’t necessarily apply to planes over Colombia or the Persian Gulf, but it does apply to domestic civilian aircraft.
Also, I defended Dean.
Where are you getting this “fact” from is what i am wondering – especially after your last comment because I just figured you’d heard it somewhere but that last comment suggests something else… or were you just guessing there?
Also: that was you defending Dean?
look at the 9/11 Commission report as one source. Or the congressional testimony/hearings transcripts for another. Or find the applicable law…or read any of dozens of MSM articles…or take my word for it.
Cheney claimed to have received permission from Bush to issue the order. He lied.
The planes had no authority to shoot down any of the planes, because Bush never granted the authority until after all 4 had crashed.
Cheney issued his order between the Pentagon crash and the Pennsylvania crash. It’s possible that Flight 93 WAS shot down, but if it wasn’t, it might have been because Cheney had no legal authority to issue the order, and the order was therefore never conveyed to the pilots.
So you don’t know what law they were all referring to or pretending to refer to when they made a comment about this? Or whether they knew about a specific law or were just repeating something they’d been told? Do you know it is even supposed to be a law at all rather than just some kind of protocol? I mean you say “take my word for it” but you don’t really seem to be the source here unless you mean “take my word that other people said it” which I agree with. They certainly said it.
asking me to find you the statute?
(duped by accident)
No, don’t bother. I was asking in case you happened to know. I don’t think there is a law. I think it’s just supposed to be a “rule of engagement” which wouldn’t normally require anything remotely as high as presidential authority to override and there was a lot of lies to cover Bush’s inaction so I suspect this is another one.
I don`t know much about this site, 911review.com, but it does have some interesting information on this subject, with links to the originating Joint Chiefs of Staff Document. It discusses the evolution, over the last decade, of the rules governing military response to an event such as a hijacking, including who is authorized to take what action.
It’s really amazing to me how Bush and crew were allowed to turn one of the greatest failures in US history into a point of “victory”, so much so that they still feel that mentioning the words “9/11” garners them support, instead of the condemnation that should come.
There are so many unanswered questions still, whether they are conspiracy theories or no. I believe one of the reasons many Arabs and Muslims, among others, don’t believe that those said to be responsible actually were is because while authorities confideently said, within a day or so, that so and so and so and so were on the plane, some so and so’s were definitely not (as came out in later news reports). Am not sure if false passports were used, or what, but if some of the people who were said to be on the plane weren’t… then who was?
There are also other inconsistencies… reports of guns, knives and bombs on the phone tapes from the flight attendants, while the official word is boxcutters. And then the FDA guy cutting up the tapes and depositing them in many different trashcans to prevent anyone from putting them together again. Howe weird is that? Also the PNAC expressed opinion that only another Pearl Harbor would set the world stage for the implementation of long held plans (like invading Iraq and other countries over there).
I imagine we’ll not know what really happened for another generation, if then. Whether it was gross incompentence on an unimaginble scale that was just taken advantage of, or some grand plot.
Great article, too bad it wasn’t published. Maybe you could update it a bit, and try again? Some of the stuff still isn’t answered, and people may as well be reminded of that.
Considering the blank stare, the cowardly flight to his little hidey-hole, and then his non-statements for 2 or three days – how could he get those ratings and garner respect for this.
As to conspiracy theories – we’re the country that lost JKFs brain.
Really well done-I can’t understand why the idea that there may have been complicity is that outrageous-an outrage, yes, but outrageous, no.
I may be veering toward the fringe myself but I don’t think it’s impossible and the more information leaks out the more it seems not even improbable.
The Kpfa station ran a few interesting shows on this,a conference in Toronto among other things, not sure about the validity of all the research myself but for people able to separate the wheat from the chaff I think they’d be of interest. If anyone missed them they are in the Guns and Butter archive.
No, don’t bother. I was asking in case you happened to know. I don’t think there is a law. I think it’s just supposed to be a “rule of engagement” which wouldn’t normally require anything remotely as high as presidential authority to override and there was a lot of lies to cover Bush’s inaction so I suspect this is another one.
My understanding is that it amounted to a protocol, but one that was cast in stone. It was frequently referred to prior to 9/11.
Basically, Rumsfeld could have issued the order on his own authority if he was willing to take the heat for a mistake.
He would have had to represent that he had Presidential authority…but no proof would have been required.
However, Rumsfeld was unavailable because he refused to cancel his meeting when the WTC was attacked, and then left the building when the Pentagon was attacked.
Cheney had no authority at all. Trent Lott might as well have issued the order.
Well to answer your question specifically with a non specific: Who knows what goes on in his addle-pated head…..and wondering what he was thinking with that blank stare unless it was all those daily briefings about Bin laden(wasn’t there something like 50 that had mentioned bin laden?) wanting to attack the US and thinking the shit would hit the fan if that was found out.
I personally don’t think he was thinking of the people who were dying but of how it was going to effect him…thus his blank stare.
I’m glad you did repost this as it makes us remember that we have to get rid of all these assholes-hopefully many in 2006 elections. Then maybe we can get some descent investigations going into what really did happen and that some people might actually be held accountable.
I think he was getting his story together, what he was going to say and to give himself a chance to look properly surprised when he came out of the classroom.
Did you see F911.
Question is; why did he just sit there when told of second plane, which could not be an accident, which seems to me to be a good time to say, “I am sorry, you are going to have to excuse me, there is a matter of great importance that requires my attention immediately, please go on with your work and I will return when if and when I have a chance, (or something of that nature.)
For him to ‘just sit’ cannot be explained away in any satisfactory way, it simply can’t.
Only someone with forknowedge would have been able to retain composure in the face of the news revelations.
Can you imagine any other president, ever, just sitting there, not even his father would have done that, I think.
Imagine making that a part of a dramatic movie, a president just sits there, everyone would think it outlandish, unless of course it was a spoof or ‘conspiracy’ drama.
Yes, I own F9/11. When you’re told your country is under attack and you just sit there, that should be grounds for impeachment, period. I’d like to know what were people thinking or still thinking that let him off the hook on that monumental breach of any coherent action on his part.
I just don’t get it either. A ceo of a company would be fired immediately, I would think, if he just sat in the middle of a crisis. Would he get severence pay, to, I think yes (sadly), the way this country works.
So maybe we should just give Bush severance pay, say a couple billion (a lot cheaper than the Iraq war), do you think that would satisfy, and maybe one small country, an island perhaps to be dictator of and even throw in a few hundred of his former supporters for him to dictate to.
Or how about a national recall, like we did in Cal. to get rid of Grey. A national referendum,( not an election), plus Dems. could not even get impeachment issue on floor of congress. It has to be the people. Or all Dems have a national strike and take to the streets day. I personally think it will take something along those lines to get rid of>>>>>>>>>>>>>///!!!!!!!!!!
At the very least you would think he’d have wondered if he was going to be targeted — since his itinery was public. Even if he didn’t think he needed to act or do anything at all… you’d think the SS would have pulled him out.
Yes the SS pulling him out was always a question in my mind, is this how they protect the pres. and wouldn’t they think there was a little danger in the air. Doesn’t seem so the way they guard him at all times and I noticed on one campaign speech that a SS agent actually was holding him around the waist as he was shaking hands with his fans.
However when the Iraq war started everyone was silenced on these matters or they were called traitors and conspiracy theorists, which is really a bad name to put on any investigation that falls into the area of the plausibly believable. The name (conspiracy) automatically connotes suspicion of motive of the investigators.
It makes no sense whatsoever that they wouldn’t whisk him off immediately to safety, unless they already knew that he was safe where he was.
Karl and Dicky and all of them will be proud of me. And look how good I am reading this book. Even though some of the words are hard. The tutor Dicky got me is really good. I wonder if they told her the secret too. I better not ask though. Dicky might get mad. I want cake.
let them eat cake-chocolate cake!
I was awake in CA watching when the news hit CNN, and I remember fottage of the damaged Tower prior to the second strike. My reaction was similar to most at that moment: air disaster. Then the second plane hit, they got it live, and I still thought “air disaster” – freaky, but not an “attack”. CNN was broadcasting “attack”, and it still didn’t sink in until after my 1/2 hour commute listening to the radio.
No one in the United States at that time, after 25 years of relative peace inside our borders [McVeigh notwithstanding] could have immediately understood what was happening. Air traffic wasn’t even grounded – the most laudable decision of the disaster – until after the last plane went down in PA.
The chain of command to launch our fighters was bureaucratic and cumbersome when dealing with civilian-to-military coordination. From the controllers to regional FAA control, to FAA headquarters, then to the military, over to the WH, back to Cheyenne Mountain. Even when they launched the fighters, the sent them out over the ocean – standard procedure. Further, our air defense system was designed to prevent an attack from outside the country – not inside.
Other than the “rising threat” of terrorism, and the instances of intelligence reports you’ve cited, I suspect the administration in it’s arrogance did exactly what they said: commission yet another study, leading to a “plan of action”. They had no intention of using any information from the previous administration, including intelligence. They were by god going to clean house, and anything they got from the godless Clintonistas was tainted.
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GW hears the news about the first strike – from whatever source – and reacts much as the rest of us did: WTF? What could possibly have gone wrong with the pilot and/or that airplane? Minutes later, the leader of the free world, who just yesterday had been enjoying the takeover of the country, thinking about how they’d sucked Kennedy into the NCLB pact, going for a photo-op in Florida, gets the news that we are under attack.
Looking into the faces of children, and in that instant, trying to grasp the implications of the attack. Seven minutes of relative quiet to ponder his reaction to an event as catastrophic as Pearl Harbor. Like most other human beings in those circumstances, my take is that the president was caught like a deer in the headlights for seven minutes – that’s all. Nothing nefarious or machiavellian, just shocked and awed. [And then of course “resolute” – but that came later].
Note: I don’t believe anyone in this administration has ever told the complete truth on any single issue of importance, and especially not about the attack. But I also don’t believe the conspiracy theories surrounding the events of 9/11. The reaction of our great leaders shows more ignorance and arrogance than conspiracy.
From out here, a screwup can look an awful lot like a conspiracy. But I don’t see one. Just the same administration that has yet to admit any mistakes for any action taken in five years. They got caught with their drawers around their ankles, and told the world it was a fashion statement.
You do know the original Pearl Harbor was also known about (provocked) by the president of the day ahead of time?
I’ve never seen any convincing proof of this assertion, though Bob Novak sure seems to think it’s true…
Alan
Maverick Leftist
“Day of Deceit” by Robert Stinnett goes through the evidence. The fact that the White House was aware of information that would have warned of the coming attack that it did not pass on to the Hawaii commanders is not controversial. The US Senate said as much a few years ago when they reinstated (posthumously!) to their full war time rank both the Admiral and General who were in command when the attack took place (they had previously been blamed for not being adequately prepared).
There have been about 6 or 7 investigations into Pearl Harbor and a lot of the juicy stuff was only released quite recently after 50 years. The evidence from these released papers strongly suggests that not only did Roosevelt know about the attack, but he deliberately provoked the attack and took steps to guarantee it happened because he wanted a pretext to declare war.
For example the defences and early warning systems were deliberately blinded. Data was not passed on. The Japanese spy sent to map the torpedo lanes was spotted and his coded messages detailing where the ships were harboured decoded but this information was NOT released to the commanders at Hawaii. Just before the attack the best ships in the fleet were removed from Hawaii and were therefore not damaged in the “surprise” attack. Roosevelt was following an eight step plan to force the Japanese to attack. The fleet was moved to Hawaii from the East coast to be more easily attacked and more provocative. The orders to eliminate the defences were so shocking to the original admiral that he was replaced with a less experienced admiral. and so on….
There’s a ton of stuff on it. Part of it is controversial because Stinnet claims that the US had broken the Japanese navy’s secret codes — but it’s not controversial that the diplomatic and civil codes were broken or that they could track the Japanese fleet more or less by other means.
I don’t dispute that FDR was itching to get into the war, and that he couldn’t get the country behind the idea unless we were attacked first. However, it doesn’t seem logical to me that FDR would allow it to be a complete surprise attack. Why not set up an ambush instead? That would still allow plenty of justification for war, while putting us a “leg up” against Japan from the get-go.
Alan
Maverick Leftist
What slacker said. I’m aware of the allegation that Roosevelt knew of the attack up to a week in advance, yes. But as with other too-close-to-call conspiracy theories [including Kennedy’s assasination], we will probably never know exactly what happened.
Well it is a conspiracy theory – governments keep secrets. There’s a lot of papers still under wraps that concern Pearl Harbor. In fact Bush has started to reclasify documents that had been released concerning Pearl Harbor.
But unless there have been papers released on who shot JFK (as opposed to the subsequent investigations) I don’t see it as that similar. You should read the book. It’s instructive to see how much you can get away as far as secrets go in a supposedly open government. It’s not cloak and dagger. it’s selectively deciding that people who are supposed to be doing X don’t get told the information to do their jobs.
Kind of like what the FBI whistle blowers have been reporting how they found their investigations into the hijackers prior to 9-11 seem to keep getting held up by those higher up.
Thanks so much for posting this. Reading it tonight, something struck me for the first time, and it feels eerie to realize that I never even thought of it before. But I don’t think I’ve heard anyone else focus on this point either.
Let’s say that Bush is telling the “truth,” that his contradictory and odd statements are due to his being “confused,” and that even though the whole rest of the world and his staff knew about the first crash, he hadn’t yet been told about it. Even though I don’t see how this is possible, let’s think about what a normal leader, especially a U.S. president, would do if that were in fact the case. Wouldn’t any leader be absolutely furious that (1) his staff had kept him in the dark and (2) all of the state-of-the-art communication systems in place had failed to get this information to him immediately? Wouldn’t people be fired, prosecuted, etc.? Wouldn’t he be making statements to the press to explain why so many things had gone wrong? Wouldn’t his justifiable anger be obvious? I mean, picture Clinton, Reagan, Carter, Nixon, or any other president (except maybe Bush Sr.) in this scenario. Would he just have made a few limp “explanations” to defend his own odd behavior and stop there? Or would he have called for a complete investigation, fired/prosecuted people who were at fault, and instituted and announced new communications procedures to ensure that nothing like that could ever happen again? I’m alarmed by the lack of attention this aspect of the affair has received, because to me it indicates that although at first we were in shock, now we have become so used to the countless, daily oddities of this administration that it has become difficult to remember how a sane, honest, competent leader would act.
Maybe I should be speaking just for myself here, but there are so many strange and outrageous details of this affair that it seems that this aspect has been somewhat overlooked–or at least I don’t remember its being discussed.
He did know about the first plane crash when he went into the classroom and then was told about the second inside the classroom, is my recollection. I do not think he knew about the pentagon or Pa. accident yet.
According to what I know, he was told by Andrew Card, I believe in the room and then someone else in the back of the room held up a sign (that only he could see) saying, don’t make any comment yet.
Lets also add into the mix that he may have been wired in the classroom as he most likely was in the debates, if so he may be receiving a stream of info in his ears, and thus the vacant look on his face.
But still all of that notwithstanding, to me the fact that he stayed is pretty incriminating in itself.
This:
Michael O’Malley, Cadillac General Manager, has been quoted saying that just as Air Force One is a flying Oval Office, the Presidential limo “provides the same amenities for our nation’s leader while traveling on the ground.”6 Los Angeles Times reporter, Terril Yue Jones characterized its capabilities, “…assume that President Bush has enough satellite communications technology at his fingertips to wage war from the back seat.”
In spite of the all this communications technology, all official accounts, claim that no one made the President aware of a major “accident” during his journey from Longboat Key to downtown Sarasota. But other travelers in the motorcade were made aware. Kia Baskerville, a CBS News White House producer recalled, “as the presidential motorcade headed to President Bush’s first event, I received a call on my cell phone from a producer who said that a plane had just hit the World Trade Center in New York.” The White House Press Secretary, Ari Fleischer, was informed by pager as well as by radio. As the Christian Science Monitor reported on September 17th, 2001, “about six blocks from the school, a news photographer overheard a radio transmission. Press Secretary Ari Fleischer would be needed on arrival to discuss reports of some sort of crash. The radio also said that Mr. Bush had a call waiting for him at his holding room in the school from national security adviser Condoleezza Rice.”7
And U.S. Navy Captain Deborah Loewer, the director of the White House Situation Room, was contacted by her deputy in the Situation Room, who informed her about the crash. 8
Skeptics think it is unlikely that the President was not alerted to the accident until after he arrived at the school when many other people in the motorcade were. The report of a radio transmission increases their doubt. To say the least, it seems strange that millions of people around the world were aware for ten minutes, or more, before anyone thought it necessary to inform the President. The growing suspicion that Bush may have known about the hijackings and deliberately failed to take actions to prevent them is fed by such oddities in the official line.
OK, I understand your comment now. I thought it was a very good comment by the way and agree with what you said.
I read the diary in the morning and your comment at night so I guess that’s why I missed your references. After reading 20+ diaries yesterday and I don’t know how many comments, it does get a little hard to remember what was said when and where at least for me.
–as BooMan noted. I had to read this part several times myself to get it–it seems so incredible. I don’t know if it has even been mentioned very much in discussions of what happened that day, because I don’t remember reading about it before. Or if it has been mentioned, I have been so distracted by the bizarreness of the time Bush spent reading about pet goats and his suspicious contradictory statements that this other bizarre aspect didn’t register with me. I too read many diaries here and on dKos, and I agree–it’s hard to keep track of it all!
to 9/11 is to look at where everyone was.
Hugh Shelton, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs. was on an airplane to Europe.
Colin Powell was in Peru.
Gen. Richard Myers was the acting Chaiman of the Joint Chiefs, and he claims to have been at two places at once: Max Cleland’s office and in the Pentagon.
Rumsfeld was in a meeting until the Pentagon was hit, and then left the building for over a half hour.
Sen. Graham and Rep. Goss (the respective heads of the intelligence committees) were sitting with the head of Pakistani intelligence (a man reported to have wired Atta $100,000, and subsequently forced to resign his post).
Bin-Laden’s brother was in a meeting with the Carlyle Group.
Bush and Card were in Sarasota/Bradenton.
Rice and Cheney were in the West Wing, and then in a White House bunker.
Bush Sr. was on a plane to Milwaukee.
I’d have to say, they picked a very good time to attack.
All seemingly asleep at the wheel, if we’re to accept that their whereabouts weren’t planned ahead of time. Do you know if Rumsfeld has said where he was for that half hour?
Yeah, Rummy was helping the victims of the plane crash into the Pentagon.
But only he and Bush were in the chain of command to order the downing of other planes…and Bush was flying around the country and Rummy was on the Pentagon lawn.
Are there any pictures of this? I know you said above that you studied all of this material, and I haven’t. One of the seemingly convincing things about the theory that something other than an airliner hit the Pentagon seems to be that no photographs seem to show anything that looks like parts of the plane or passengers’ bodies. I’m wondering if there are any photos of Rumsfeld to “prove” he was where he says he was.
This link has plenty of info on the pentagon story with pictures and videos, from what I gather very few parts of plane were found, one side panel, wheels, small parts, no bodies that I know of were found. On this site is says that everyone was evacuated from the area that was struck before the accident except for a few workers.
Booman doesn’t buy all this about the Pentagon, but I do, can’t explain all of it though. so check it out for yourself. If nothing else it has all the details of the day there at the Pentagon.
http://www.freedomfiles.org/war/pentagon.htm
Yes, I have seen still photos of Rumsfeld helping out around the impact zone.
Flight 77 hit the Pentagon. Many people saw it come in right over Interstate 95 at 9:30 in the morning (a very busy time). I even know someone who say it. An associate of my brother’s.
It hit about 16 feet of solid concrete with reinforced steel as it passed thru two rings of the Pentagon.
There were recognizeable pieces of the plane recovered.
The web sites are hoaxes.
They are very convincing hoaxes, but hoaxes nonetheless.
I didn’t think they were convincing. It seemed based on a failure of imagination. Usually a condition associated with believing the government!
Here is another link with some passenger names passengers and some other info
http://thewebfairy.com/killtown/flight77/passengers.html#remains
I will check these sites out. I also appreciate know about the hoaxes. It sure is getting harder and harder to discover the truth these days in the absence of an independent press!
While you’re at it, I recommend you check out Another Perspective, available from Popular Mechanics Magazine.
Well Booman calls it a hoax and I am not sure that is the right term. It was the conclusion that some came to just as others have come to questionable (to some) conclusions about the Trade Centers, falling, dynamite, etc.
I spent a long time researching this subject last summer and I started my flight 77 research when I started to wonder why there was no visible plane structure at the Pent. site. I would think that there would be a large chunk of plane extending from the wall and there was none.
Maybe booman can tell us if there has ever been a crash such as this where there was no significant plane structure left and no damage to the lawn. If you look at all the major crashes there was normally a lot of plane structure even after pretty terrible crashes.
Boomans whole premise about 911 may be called by some a hoax or conspiracy theory but I don’t. So I think it really is up to each person to decide for themselves.
So let me know what you think after checking out the sites.
the plane disintegrated on impact, which is why it did not cut a 20-foot high hole or whatever it was supposed to have cut.
There were plenty of pieces of the plane, its just the hoax sites keep claiming that there weren’t.
But the reason nothing much was left of the plane was simple. It didn’t crash into an open field. It crashed into one of the most fortified structures in the world, passed through 4 seperate 4-foot thick concrete walls, that were reinforced with steel, and then burned.
The DNA that was recovered was not from big pieces of human either, I suspect.
Plus, hundreds of people saw the plane hit. A point the web sites ignore.
Plus, the most obvious thing is that all the people that got on Flight 77 have never been seen since.
The airline certainly would have been upset about the fact that their plane disappeared.
I’m not saying all the conspiracy theories are bogus. I’m saying the Flight 77 theories are bogus.
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/77_deastman1.htm
this site has on scene witnesses, who seem to disagree as to one or two planes and the crash, but you can check it out. Pics on this site too.
I am sure a plane or plane like object was seen by viewers, but how does anyone know it was flight 77 and not a drone for example? I still have questions that are unanswered and until they are I will not come to a final conclusion.
– “Our Plane Is Being Hijacked.” Washington Post, 12 Sep 2001
“I was supposed to have been going to the Pentagon Tuesday morning at about 11:00am (EDT) and was getting ready, and thank goodness I wasn’t going to be going until later. It was so shocking, I was listening to the news on what had happened in New York, and just happened to look out the window because I heard a low flying plane and then I saw it hit the Pentagon. It happened so fast… it was in the air one moment and in the building the next…”
– “U.S. Under Attack: Your Eyewitness Accounts.” BBC News, 14 Sep 2001
“As I approached the Pentagon, which was still not quite in view, listening on the radio to the first reports about the World Trade Center disaster in New York, a jetliner, apparently at full throttle and not more than a couple of hundred yards above the ground, screamed overhead. … Seconds before the Pentagon came into view a huge black cloud of smoke rose above the road ahead. I came around the bend and there was the Pentagon billowing smoke, flames and debris, blackened on one side and with a gaping hole where the airplane had hit it.”
– “Eyewitness at the Pentagon.” Human Events, 17 Sep 2001
“Frank Probst, an information management specialist for the Pentagon Renovation Program, left his office trailer near the Pentagon’s south parking lot at 9:36 a.m. Sept. 11. Walking north beside Route 27, he suddenly saw a commercial airliner crest the hilltop Navy Annex. American Airlines Flight 77 reached him so fast and flew so low that Probst dropped to the ground, fearing he’d lose his head to its right engine.”
– “A Defiant Recovery.” The Retired Officer Magazine, January 2002
“USAToday.com Editor Joel Sucherman saw it all: an American Airlines jetliner fly left to right across his field of vision as he commuted to work Tuesday morning. It was highly unusual. The large plane was 20 feet off the ground and a mere 50 to 75 yards from his windshield. Two seconds later and before he could see if the landing gear was down or any of the horror-struck faces inside, the plane slammed into the west wall of the Pentagon 100 yards away. ‘My first thought was he’s not going to make it across the river to [Reagan] National Airport. But whoever was flying the plane made no attempt to change direction,’ Sucherman said. ‘It was coming in at a high rate of speed, but not at a steep angle–almost like a heat-seeking missile was locked onto its target and staying dead on course.'”
– “Journalist Witnesses Pentagon Crash.” eWeek.com, 13 Sep 2001
“‘I mean it was like a cruise missile with wings, went right there and slammed into the Pentagon,’ eyewitness Mike Walter said of the plane that hit the military complex. ‘Huge explosion, great ball of fire, smoke started billowing out, and then it was just chaos on the highway as people either tried to move around the traffic and go down either forward or backwards,’ he said.”
– “Witnesses and Leaders on Terrorist Attacks.” CNN, 11 Sep 2001
“‘(The plane) was flying fast and low and the Pentagon was the obvious target,’ said Fred Gaskins, who was driving to his job as a national editor at USA Today near the Pentagon when the plane passed about 150 feet overhead. ‘It was flying very smoothly and calmly, without any hint that anything was wrong.'”
– “Bush Vows Retaliation for ‘Evil Acts’.” USA Today, 11 Sep 2001
“Aydan Kizildrgli, an English language student who is a native of Turkey, saw the jetliner bank slightly then strike a western wall of the huge five-sided building that is the headquarters of the nation’s military. ‘There was a big boom,’ he said. ‘Everybody was in shock. I turned around to the car behind me and yelled “Did you see that?” Nobody could believe it.'”
– “Bush Vows Retaliation for ‘Evil Acts’.” USA Today, 11 Sep 2001
“‘I saw the tail of a large airliner. … It plowed right into the Pentagon,” said an Associated Press Radio reporter who witnessed the crash. ‘There is billowing black smoke.'”
– “America’s Morning of Terror.” ChannelOne.com, 2001
“Omar Campo, a Salvadorean, was cutting the grass on the other side of the road when the plane flew over his head. ‘It was a passenger plane. I think an American Airways plane,’ Mr Campo said. ‘I was cutting the grass and it came in screaming over my head. I felt the impact. The whole ground shook and the whole area was full of fire. I could never imagine I would see anything like that here.'”
– “Pentagon Eyewitness Accounts.” The Guardian, 12 Sep 2001
“Afework Hagos, a computer programmer, was on his way to work but stuck in a traffic jam near the Pentagon when the plane flew over. ‘There was a huge screaming noise and I got out of the car as the plane came over. Everybody was running away in different directions. It was tilting its wings up and down like it was trying to balance. It hit some lampposts on the way in.'”
– “Pentagon Eyewitness Accounts.” The Guardian, 12 Sep 2001
“A pilot who saw the impact, Tim Timmerman, said it had been an American Airways 757. “‘It added power on its way in,’ he said. ‘The nose hit, and the wings came forward and it went up in a fireball.'”
– “Pentagon Eyewitness Accounts.” The Guardian, 12 Sep 2001
“Steve Eiden, a truck driver, had picked up his cargo that Tuesday morning in Williamsburg, Va., and was en route to New York City and witnessed the aftermath. … He took the Highway 95 loop in the area of the Pentagon and thought it odd to see a plane in restricted airspace, thinking to himself it was odd that it was flying so low. ‘You could almost see the people in the windows,’ he said as he watched the plane disappear behind a line of trees, followed by a tall plume of black smoke. Then he saw the Pentagon on fire, and an announcement came over the radio that the Pentagon had been hit.”
– “Sept. 11, the Day America Changed.” The Baxter Bulletin, 2001
“Traffic is normally slow right around the Pentagon as the road winds and we line up to cross the 14th Street bridge heading into the District of Columbia. I don’t know what made me look up, but I did and I saw a very low-flying American Airlines plane that seemed to be accelerating. My first thought was just ‘No, no, no, no,’ because it was obvious the plane was not heading to nearby Reagan National Airport. It was going to crash.”
– “September 11 Remembered.” University Week, 4 Oct 2001
“Father Stephen McGraw was driving to a graveside service at Arlington National Cemetery the morning of Sept. 11, when he mistakenly took the Pentagon exit onto Washington Boulevard, putting him in a position to witness American Airlines Flight 77 crash into the Pentagon. ‘I was in the left hand lane with my windows closed. I did not hear anything at all until the plane was just right above our cars.’ McGraw estimates that the plane passed about 20 feet over his car, as he waited in the left hand lane of the road, on the side closest to the Pentagon. ‘The plane clipped the top of a light pole just before it got to us, injuring a taxi driver, whose taxi was just a few feet away from my car. I saw it crash into the building,’ he said. ‘My only memories really were that it looked like a plane coming in for a landing. I mean in the sense that it was controlled and sort of straight. That was my impression,’ he said. ‘There was an explosion and a loud noise and I felt the impact. I remember seeing a fireball come out of two windows (of the Pentagon). I saw an explosion of fire billowing through those two windows.'”
– “Pentagon Crash Eyewitness Comforted Victims.” MDW News Service, 28 Sep 2001
“‘I glanced up just at the point where the plane was going into the building,’ said Carla Thompson, who works in an Arlington, Va., office building about 1,000 yards from the crash. ‘I saw an indentation in the building and then it was just blown-up up–red, everything red,’ she said. ‘Everybody was just starting to go crazy. I was petrified.'”
– “Terrorists Attack New York, Pentagon.” Los Angeles Times, 12 Sep 2001
“I witnessed the jet hit the Pentagon on September 11. From my office on the 19th floor of the USA TODAY building in Arlington, Va., I have a view of Arlington Cemetery, Crystal City, the Pentagon, National Airport and the Potomac River. … Shortly after watching the second tragedy, I heard jet engines pass our building, which, being so close to the airport is very common. But I thought the airport was closed. I figured it was a plane coming in for landing. A few moments later, as I was looking down at my desk, the plane caught my eye. It didn’t register at first. I thought to myself that I couldn’t believe the pilot was flying so low. Then it dawned on me what was about to happen. I watched in horror as the plane flew at treetop level, banked slightly to the left, drug it’s wing along the ground and slammed into the west wall of the Pentagon exploding into a giant orange fireball. Then black smoke. Then white smoke.”
– Steve Anderson, Director of Communications, USA Today
“Henry Ticknor, intern minister at the Unitarian Universalist Church of Arlington, Virginia, was driving to church that Tuesday morning when American Airlines Flight 77 came in fast and low over his car and struck the Pentagon. ‘There was a puff of white smoke and then a huge billowing black cloud,’ he said.”
– “Hell on Earth.” UU World, Jan/Feb 2002
“Northern Virginia resident John O’Keefe was one of the commuters who witnessed the attack on the Pentagon. ‘I was going up 395, up Washington Blvd., listening to the the news, to WTOP, and from my left side-I don’t know whether I saw or heard it first- I saw a silver plane I immediately recognized it as an American Airlines jet,’ said the 25-year-old O’Keefe, managing editor of Influence, an American Lawyer Media publication about lobbying. ‘It came swooping in over the highway, over my left shoulder, straight across where my car was heading. I’d just heard them saying on the radio that National Airport was closing, and I thought, “That’s not going to make it to National Airport.” And then I realized where I was, and that it was going to hit the Pentagon. There was a burst of orange flame that shot out that I could see through the highway overpass. Then it was just black. Just black, thick smoke.'”
– “Terrorist ‘Situation’.” American Lawyer Media, 11 Sep 2001
and links etc. I appreciate gtting them and will look into them over the next few days (when that pesky job of mine doesn’t get in the way).
Laura Bush was in Washington, I believe Ted Kennedy’s (bizarre I know) or another Senators office at the time for a meettng and was wisked down into the fortifications; she spoke of this on an interview show, can’t remember which one or complete details, but she was at the Senate Office Bldg.
When I heard her say that, I thought, well if he did plan this or had any part of it, he surely would have gotten her out of town, that is unless he was willing to sacrifice her.
I also think there is an even bigger list of ones who were far removed from any danger area.
I remember John Edwards being asked where he was and him replying he was in his office in senate building. He was going to be whisked away to one of those safe bunkers when he asked about his family. Being told that there wasn’t time to get them he basically told security to shove it.
I think he said something along the lines of without his family being safe what’s the point and either called to make sure everyone was ok or went home so they’d all be together. This was another reason I had for liking him.
I hadn’t heard about someone holding a sign up for him at the back of the room. If this were true – I would submit that he didn’t know anything beforehand, and only was told at that time because he was being filmed and there would have been questions to answer as to why he was not told. Holding up a card for him to read certainly indicates that he could not be trusted to say anything appropriate to the situation. He needs a lot of prep work to be able to make a statement – I really don’t see how this man is in charge of anything. I remember at the beginning of his first term when the press was after him with a few questions and he stated as he walked away that things would be easier if this was a dictatorship.
Ah well, how’s CAL. We’re having the first sunny weather since winter so I’m trying to get out as much as possible.
Yes there are lots of questions about this man and his administration, one hardly know where to start.
He did say (‘and he stated as he walked away that things would be easier if this was a dictatorship.’) and at another time he said this again while being interviewed, ‘sitting’, and he said “”it would be much easier in a dictatorship, if I was the dictator.”
He also said, “The terrorist will do anything they can to harm this country and so will we.” Which I think may have been the most true statement he ever spoke.
Weather in California is warm and sunny, mid 70’s today where I am located. Yesterday was the mid 80’s. Our winter is about 2 months long (if you easterners can call it winter) and we are cold if temp. goes to below 50, which it hardly ever does.