“It’s in our country’s interests to find those who would do harm to us and get them out of harm’s way.”
—George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., April 28, 2005
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BooMan
Martin Longman a contributing editor at the Washington Monthly. He is also the founder of Booman Tribune and Progress Pond. He has a degree in philosophy from Western Michigan University.
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Sorry BooMan, I just can’t get worked up over this idiot’s malapropisms. What little comfort is to be gained from any snarky commentary is far outweighed by the damage this asshat and his handlers have done to this country,the world in general, and our once good standing in it.
“Our enemies,” says Bush “are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.”
The damage done by this gang, MUST be hung on this administration. Hold this gang accountable, or we will pay(again and again). Case in point, many of the criminals of Vietnam got off scott-free. Some even came back to steal more, in this disaster. EtJ
Man would I like to volunteer to be a judge; for these criminal’s trials. How about YOUSE(this is a word in my World) ???
Have you read Bonddad’s post on the front page at dKos? I mean, what is it gonna take to wake people up? People are living in their McMansions, driving their SUV’s, running up their credit cards and they just keep believing that the future is going to roll out like the immediate past and they’re always going to be okay. They are all distracted by resenting poor people taking money from them via taxes and hating gays and sucked up into some vision of America owning the world. All the while, it’s them being owned and they don’t see it, don’t feel it as they commute 50 miles to work and pick up the kids from soccer practice. By the time the majority of the middle class starts getting foreclosed and put on the street, it will be too late. Even then, they’ll kill blacks, gays and libruls in their rage and frustration and never eat the rich like they should.
Gawd, it sucks to be living thru the fall of an empire.
the story about Wikinews? I was quite intrigued by it and hoping to get some discussion going this evening when traffic picked up.
When I left, there was only one comment – yours, something about this was a goodbye cruel world story, which I didn’t get at all.
So I was going to post a reply to it just now asking what you meant by it and see you have removed the entire story.
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is seems to have disappeared. I didn’t delete it though. At least not intentionally. I’ll ask Susan if she knows what happened.
As for my comment:
If I asked you to write a diary for BooTrib about some new phenomenon on the internet, and you chose to start your diary by saying that this new phenomenon was just one more example why BooMan is an obsolete, lazy, self-important, anachronism…
…I might just decide not to publish it all.
In other words, it’s the equivalent of saying, “The NY Times sucks and I’m leaving.”
First of all, he doesn’t attack the NYTimes. His intro says,
Ummmm, do you disagree? Isn’t that one of the reasons we’re all here, because that description too often seems to fit? Anyone remember Judith Miller? As an afterword he says,
I’m not alone. Kill fees are part and parcel of the journalism business and there are many good stories failing to make it into print each month . . . .
I note this without any bitterness at having my story killed (well, not much anyway). Having worked as an assigning editor and having killed plenty of stories in the past, I understand the whims of the process. Live by the pen, die by the pen I guess you could say.
Finally, in posting this story online in this format, I hope to generate a conversation around Wikinews and also offer a sense for non-professional journalists of the amount of time and effort that goes into producing a piece of work like this.
I’ve provided links to key characters throughout the story and I am happy to discuss passages and themes of the story in the comments section.
I don’t see this as writer’s pout at all.
As a reader and subscriber to the NYTimes, his article is one that I would have very much liked to read there. Since I can’t, I’m glad that he published it online. I find the concept of a “WikiNews” fascinating.
Are you saying that a) no reporter for the MSM (his term) should mention that it is being criticized in a story that he writes for it? – I think that that intro was part of the original story, btw. Or b) that publishing a killed story online is bad form or something?
Sorry, still don’t get it.
I think you are reading something into my comment that I did not intend.
It is not a criticism of the author at all. I only mean that I am not surprised that the NYT magazine chose not to publish an article that characterized the NY Times as at its lowest point in 30 years.
Janet, I agree. And, we cannot know what draft he turned in to the NYT since he has adapted the article, to suit himself, since they paid him the kill fee.
I.e., we can’t judge the article in this version.
And, let’s get clear here: If the NYT had wanted to edit out any criticisms that could reflect on themselves, they could have easily done so and simply published the article as a story about Wiki. So, I don’t think the NYT blew off the story because it got to them…. maybe they just didn’t want to do the story. The writer says that journalists get paid kill fees ALL the time. … i.e., it’s common. it’s not unusual it happened with this story.
But, to get away from THAT issue, that article is a great read on Wiki news and the Internet and collaborating and how we’re all trying to be journalists.
And, as i just heard Chris Hedges say earlier on CSPAN2, it’s important and it’s right to have a moral viewpoint when a journalist looks at an event… all the while searching for the truth and not being afraid to speak up about all sides of an argument. His icon is George Orwell, he said, because Orwell was never afraid to criticize any side of a conflict.
and I’ve reposted the story … I zapped it, I guess, as I was doing about 10 different things at once today before I left to pick up my daughter and send those faxes. I had about 12 browser windows open at the time, so who knows what i did…. anyway, it’s back up.
I did not read carefully and made a bone-headed comment. Forgive me.
Darcy and I went to her office today and faxed every newspaper, our two senators, ACLU, etc, etc…. I can’t remember who all … very tired …
anyway, I have added more “how to” and FAX # info in the story below about her.
In particular, the two FAIR.ORG media lists are GOLD. They give you the fax numbers for the major media outlets — which you almost can never find at the media’s own sites.
Susan: sorry, which story? I was about to post adiary here to alert people to the diary heading the recommendeds at DKos. Is there a story already on BT?
Hope you kids are watching CSPAN2. It’s been fabulous… i posted the schedule in a story below. Or just go to http://www.booktv.org
The hour with Mark Danner et al. was sensational. Brilliant thoughts as well as impressive knowledge.
I did NOT like that the audience booed Max Boot, however. Not classy.
Here’s the show that was so great. I got a lot out of all of them, Max Boot the last. This fellow — Angelo Codevilla — was particularly impressive for his rather new view (to me) on torture.
It’s on again tonight, late:
On Saturday, April 30 at 9:00 pm and Sunday, May 1 at 2:00 am
2005 Los Angeles Times Festival of Books: Human Rights Since 9/11
Description: Five authors debate what constitutes torture, historical precedents for torture and other interrogation techniques, and whether or not the rules of the Geneva Convention apply in the post-9/11 age. From the 2005 Los Angeles Times Festival of Books on the campus of UCLA, Los Angeles Times Book Review editor Steve Wasserman moderates a discussion with Max Boot, author of “The Savage Wars of Peace: Small Wars and the Rise of American Power”; Angelo Codevilla, author of “Informing Statecraft: Intelligence for a New Century”; Mark Danner, author of “Torture and Truth: America, Abu Ghraib, and the War on Terror”; David Rieff, author of “At the Point of a Gun: Democratic Dreams and Armed Intervention”; and Robert Scheer, co-author of “The Five Biggest Lies Bush Told Us about Iraq.”
I meant to type Max Boot the least…
David Rieff — also a fascinating character — is on again tomorrow on a panel with Amy Goodman.
Such an eloquent language….
with Haiku poetry messages. They’re used to communicate a timeless message, often
achieving a wistful, yearning and powerful insight through extreme brevity.
Here are 16 actual error messages from Japan….
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The Web site you seek cannot be located, but countless more exist.
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Chaos reigns within. Reflect, repent, and reboot. Order shall return.
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Program aborting: Close all that you have worked on. You ask far too much.
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Windows NT crashed. I am the Blue Screen of Death. No one hears your screams.
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Yesterday it worked. Today it is not working. Windows is like that.
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Your file was so big. It might be very useful. But, now it is gone.
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Stay the patient course. Of little worth is your ire. The network is down.
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A crash reduces your expensive computer to a simple stone.
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Three things are certain: Death, taxes and lost data. Guess which has occurred.
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You step in the stream, but the water has moved on. This page is not here. ————————————————–
Out of memory. We wish to hold the whole sky, but we never will.
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Having been erased, the document you’re seeking must now be retyped.
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Serious error. All shortcuts have disappeared. Screen. Mind. Both are blank.
For Deadwood fans in particular–
(Information was gleaned from copies of the Wet Mountain Tribune, as well as from other early-day Custer County publications, all from the last week in April.)
100 Years Ago – 1905
We have nothing authentic, but the general impression prevails that the chances for unwatering the Geyser shaft down to the 1,800-foot level are good. The deep workings of that property afford excellent opportunities for capital and that proposition is now being considered with a view to beginning operations soon.
Seventeen kinds of weather this past week, all wet.
Fr. R. Servant, after bucking snow for twenty-four hours in an endeavor to reach the Hungarian settlement, had to abandon the trip and returned to town last evening. He will hold divine service at the Catholic Church next Sunday as usual.
The Easter ball by Westcliffe Camp No. 309, Woodmen of the World, was a social and financial success. The hall was crowded and the attendance was made up from all quarters of the county – the Valley, Altarita, Querida, Rosita and Silver Cliff. The music was enchanting and it was well toward daybreak before the happy crowd dispersed.
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