Cicero recently made an observation to me that the most recent influx of new Kossacks reminded him of a brood of college students who have read, and failed to understand, the philosophy of Nietzsche. Whether that is the case or not, misunderstanding Nietzsche is a very common event.
Nietzsche wrote in an unique style. While his books can be read from front to back and themes can be discerned, and ideas are explored and developed, it is also possible to pick up one of his books and start reading at random.
He wrote in brief bursts, with each segment capable of being considered alone, as well as in the larger context of his whole philosophy. And this encourages the novice philosophy student to misinterpret individual passages. As an example, Nietzsche famously wrote:
Taken alone, this appears to be a grossly misogynistic remark. But that was not his intention. Reading the following passage shows what his true concern was:
With a Prelude in German Rhymes and an Appendix of Songs. Originally published in 1882.
On female chastity— There is something quite amazing and monstrous about the education of upper-class women. What could be more paradoxical? All the world is agreed that they are to be brought up as ignorant as possible of erotic matters, and that one has to imbue their souls with a profound sense of shame in such matters until the merest suggestion of such things triggers the most extreme impatience and flight. The “honor” of women really comes into play only here: what else would one not forgive them? But here they are supposed to remain ignorant even in their hearts; they are supposed to have neither eyes, nor ears, nor words, nor thoughts for this– their “evil”; and mere knowledge is considered evil. And then to be hurled, as by a gruesome lightning bolt, into the reality and knowledge, by marriage– precisely by the man they love and esteem most! To catch love and shame in a contradiction and to be forced to experience at the same time delight, surrender, duty, pity, terror, and who knows what else, in the face of the unexpected neighborliness of god and beast!
Thus a psychic knot has been tied that may have no equal. Even a compassionate curiosity of the wisest student of humanity is inadequate for guessing how this or that woman manages to accommodate herself to this solution of the riddle, and to the riddle of a solution, and what dreadful, far-reaching suspicions must stir in her poor, unhinged soul– and how the ultimate philosophy and skepsis of woman casts anchor at this point!
Afterward, the same deep silence as before. Often a silence directed at herself, too. She closes her eyes to herself.
Young women try hard to appear superficial and thoughtless. The most refined simulate a kind of impertinence.
Women easily experience their husbands as a question mark concerning their honor, and their children as an apology or atonement. They need children and wish for them in a way that is altogether different from that in which a man may wish for children.
In sum, one cannot be too kind about women.
Nietzsche is making a social commentary here. He is lamenting the way women are pressured to cultivate an image of thoughtlessness, to conceal their sexual desire, to avoid evidencing any knowledge of sexual matters. One cannot understand his portrayal of the scholarly woman, until one understands that he is critiquing the whole culture and gender biases of his time.
His assumption that a female scholar has no children, or has to make a choice between studies and family, was a largely accurate assumption at the time.
And he would probably agree that there was something wrong with every women’s sexuality, due to the repression and taboos placed on women’s sexual desire.
Elsewhere, in Book Two, Nietzsche puts these words in the mouth of a sage: “It is men that corrupt women; and all the failings of women should be atoned by and improved in men. For it is man who creates for himself the image of woman, and woman forms herself according to this image.”
Well, ladies, you’ve come a long way, baby. Women’s liberation involves not only getting the vote and a chance to work and go to school. It involves the liberty to break free of the prison of being defined by man’s ‘image of woman’, to learn about sexual matters, express yourself on sexual matters, marry whom you choose, and at a time in life when you feel ready for marriage. These are elements of liberation. And Nietzsche would be proud of where you are today.
In the last year, I’ve become intrigued by Nietzsche, though I feel that I have only a shallow, undergraduate’s understanding of his work, in spite of my Ph.D. (not in philosophy, despite the “P” in my doctorate’s title) and my 50-something age.
I wrote about my understanding of Nietzsche’s idea of “beyond morality” in one of my first BooTrib diaries.
I’ve been wishing that you would write something about Nietzsche, since you obviously have the education in philosophy that I lack. And here it is! Thanks, again. (More please? Nietzsche or the philosopher of your choice.)
as a woman with a PhD, I would think this topic would be of interest.
I’ve been a fan, but not a devotee, of Nietzsche since high school; I was fully prepared to read yet one more superficial critique and …
Heilige Kuh!
I wish Scoop had those little ‘I’m Not Worthy’ emoticons. Excellent Stuff, Herr Booman von BooTrib. Excellent Stuff!
Damn this is a great site.
To add to the above, Nietzsche is infamous for writing, “When you go to woman do not forget your whip.” The only picture we have of Fred, Gast, and Salome (Nietsche’s only known long-term female friend) is one that has Nietzsche and Gast in the traces of a dog cart with Salome in the driver’s seat (literally), with the reins, and holding a small buggy whip.
Whatever one makes of this, it must be noted that this picture provides evidence that Nietzsche is often read too simply and – well – directly.
about Nietzsche are the reason why I knew almost nothing about his work for so long. My best friend took a class of Bob Solomon’s when she was an undergrad and went on about Nietzsche from time to time. I always tuned her out because of Nietzsche’s supposed misogyny.
But another friend passed on some tapes of Solomon’s lectures after my best friend’s death, and now I kick myself regularly about my stubborn ignorance. We could have had some good conversations if I hadn’t been so ignorantly opinionated. (Note to self: Stubborn, opinionated ignorance not a good thing.)
Nietzsche had the misfortune to go batsy-crazy just before he became an international success. Going looney-tunes seems to have been the ‘in’ thing for German genius’ in the last decades of the 19th Century. Georg Cantor was also in and out of nuthatches. What this meant, for Nietzsche, is he wasn’t around to defend himself when the English speaking world decided to wed his writings with Spencer – who wasn’t in a nuthatch, but should have been.
Nietzsche’s sister took charge of his literary estate during, and after, his breakdown. There is no way to put this other than: She was an idiot, a bigot, and a racist. Her position allowed her to ‘morph’ her brother’s work to support her own repugnant interpretations.
Additionally, an English devotee Thomas Common produced the absolute worst translation of any philosophical text from any language from any period in British intellectual history. His version of ‘Also Sprach Zarathustra’ is unreadable, trite, throughly disgusting & awful, and ‘translates’ what does not exist in the German.
This is a brief – H.L. Mencken also ‘intrepreted’ Nietzsche for an American audience – outline of what was done ‘at’ Nietzsche’s thought when he was becoming popularized in the English speaking world. The result is the common (mis)understanding of what the dude was getting at.
from Bob Solomon.
A Nazi, no less. A.H. wept at her funeral.
the last time I checked, medical historians belive that Nietzche suffered from neurosyphilis with partial paresis. His problem wasn’t emotional (whatever the f** that means) but physical.
In any case, I resent the use of the word “nuts” to describe medical conditions that many human beings struggle to prevent from interfering in their everyday lives.
to describe the effects of untreated syphilis on an individual’s mental state? In this day and age of both condoms and anti-biotics anyone (particularly a western intellectual) who suffers from untreated syphilis is doing so by choice and probably a pseudo-intellectual poseur of the lowest order who is compensating for an inability to learn German.
Seriously, while I appreciate sensitivity to the unnecessary and hurtful stigmas associated with mental illnesses, “batshit nuts” isn’t a desriptor of any real mental illness. In fact, I would suggest that a person who suffers from mental illness isn’t going to have the time or the energy or the endurance to be “batshit nuts”. If there were a DSM entry for the condition it would probably require:
Thus Paris Hilton, lacking (1) is not batshit nuts. Jerry Brown is batshit nuts, as are most members of the House of Lords and the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Neither has (to my knowledge) any mental health issues.
To quote Derwood: “The killer awoke before dawn, and he voted for Jerry Brown.”
Actually done live on stage during the 1992 primaries.
You can us it as you like. I was talking/writing nonsense. I use the word all the time myself. It’s so deeply ingrained that it’s taken on the linguitsic status of an exclamation like “Ouch!” or “Shit!” than a real word.
forget it…
“talking/writing nonsense”
Cent’Anni!
See my e-mail to you
375.
Why we look like Epicureans.– We are cautious, we modern men, about ultimate convictions; our mistrust lies in wait for the enchantments and deceptions of the conscience that are involved in every strong faith, every unconditional Yes and No: how is this to be explained? Perhaps what is to be found here is largely the care of the “burned child,” of the disappointed idealist, but there is also another superior component, the jubilant curiosity of one who formerly stood in his corner and was driven to despair by his corner, and now delights and luxuriates in the opposite of a corner, in the boundless, in what is “free as such.” Thus an almost Epicurean bent for knowledge develops that will not easily let go of the questionable character of things; also an aversion to big moral words and gestures, a taste that rejects all crude, foursquare opposites and is proudly conscience of its practice in having reservations. For this constitutes our pride, this slight tightening of the reins as our urge for certainty races ahead, this self-control of the rider during his wildest rides: for we still ride mad and fiery horses, and when we hesitate it is least of all danger that makes us hesitate …
[do you think Fred would be a Bush voter?]
That passage is interesting as it helps me assert: the primary ‘point’ of Nietzsche is Wille zur Macht which I take to mean “Will to Do” – “macht” = “make”. To put it another way, the “Will to Create.” If this is so, and I have by no means proven it, what N is saying is the reluctance to take a stand. Knowledge, study, education, etc. is used an excuse … to do nothing.
Nietzsche as a Bush voter? Hee-hee-hee, now that’s a good one!
“What [Bush] has in common with “the others” – I’ll enumerate it: the decline of the power to organize; the misuse of traditional means without the capacity to furnish any justification, any for-the-sake-of; the counterfeiting in the imitation of big forms for which nobody today is strong, proud, self-assured, healthy enough; excessive liveliness in the smallest parts; excitement at any price; cunning as the expression of impoverished life; more and more nerves in the place of flesh…”
The Case of Wagner: Second Postscript Kaufmann, trans. [Emphasis original, “Bush” textual inserted for spite]
Nietzsche is refering to Wagner but it’s pretty applicable, methinks, to Bush.
Bush’s policies resembled even bad overwrought opera.
The point of the passage I quoted was not that the new freethinkers are afraid to take a stand, it is something much more exquisite.
Hungry thirsty and lustful for knowledge, the new thinker leaves his comfortable corners for wide open spaces, riding on wild horses in chase for the truth, but nevertheless through an unseen discipline, and a loose hand on the reins, avoids falling into false certitudes, and being trapped in new corners.
It is the beautiful contradiction that the person with the most truth knows that there is no truth.
A revelation that may have contributed to his madness.
and I stand corrected.
But this gives me an excuse to set-forth one of my favorite quotes:
“When you stare long into an Abyss, the Abyss also stares into you.”
and I hope other lurkers can begin to see the inexhaustible pleasure that awaits to be mined in a ‘mature’ reading of Fred’s works.
Staring into the abyss…how long O’ Lord shall we stare into the abyss and still enjoy it?
Speaking of which the the song I am currently BLASTING on my stereo reminds me of the very topic we are discussing. Eyes of the World by the Dead, lyrics by Robert Hunter.
Right outside this lazy summer home
you don’t have time to call your soul a critic, no
Right outside the lazy gate of winter’s summer home
wondering where the nuthatch winters
Wings a mile long just carried the bird away
Wake up to find out that you are the eyes of the world
but the heart has its beaches its homeland and thoughts of its own
Wake now, discover that you are the song that the morning brings
but the heart has its seasons its evenings and songs of its own
There comes a redeemer
and he slowly too fades away
There follows a wagon behind him
that’s loaded with clay
and the seeds that were silent
all burst into bloom and decay
The night comes so quiet
and it’s close on the heels of the day
Wake up to find out
that you are the eyes of the world
but the heart has its beaches
its homeland and thoughts of its own
Wake now, discover that you
are the song that the morning brings
but the heart has its seasons
its evenings and songs of its own
Sometimes we live no
particular way but our own
Sometimes we visit your country
and live in your home
Sometimes we ride on your horses
Sometimes we walk alone
Sometimes the songs that we hear
are just songs of our own
Wake up to find out
that you are the eyes of the world
but the heart has its beaches
its homeland and thoughts of its own
Wake now, discover that you
are the song that the morning brings
but the heart has its seasons
its evenings and songs of its own
[Me again]This piece of 1973 brilliance describes the experience of mankind awakening to find he is truly the measure of all things (i.e. God is Dead). The redeemer has slowly faded away, but Nietzsche (Darwin, Freude) briefly burst into bloom and decayed. Leaving us all to sing our songs in our own way, in a world unmoored from its foundations. Never underestimate the Dead’s lyrics.
when I read the quote. Does that mean I’m getting it? (Pats self on back. Then has Doubts.)
Re AT’s comment about bad translations – is the translation of The Gay Science that you linked to the one you recommend? That’s the one of his works that I’d like to read. Or start with. (But from what I gather of discussions of it, it will probably take a long time to assimilate it. I have to read philosophy in very small doses. I may not live long enough to get to another one.)
translations and you will be fine.
I would recommend Human, All Too Human as the best book to read first as an introduction to Nietzsche’s work. He wrote it around 1878, and it was actually an attempt to be taken seriously. So, it is written fairly straight-forwardly. The Dawn is also fairly accessible. Avoid reading Zarathrustra, or The Will to Power until you have consumed everthing else or you will be easily confused.
Just my advice.
Wille zur Macht (die Macht as it is, is capital) = will to power
macht, mache or machen not with caps is to do
Thanks for this.
I studied mostly the biological sciences and my understanding of philosophy is lacking. But I love learning – so keep them coming.
Also thanks for the translator to stick to. It is good to know.
was one of my favorite philoposhers when I was in my twenties. I was emormously taken by his epistemological perspectivism and radical skepticism.
As I kept studying logic and the anayltic school, however, I realzed that what he writes is often thought-provoking and poetic, but there is vert little in it of systematic philosophy ala Frege, Russel, Quine, etc…
I almost forgot to mention that Nietzshe’s ideas, like those of Schopenhauer, were heavily influenced by my countrymen (shamefully undertaught and undertranslated in the US), Giacomo Leopardi.
Here’s a short English version of his bio.
Interesting facts:
He is generally considered by experts to be the second greatest poet, next to Dante, in the [b] history [/b] of Italy literature.
By the age of 15, he had mastered Latin, Greek, Spanish, French, Hebrew, and tother langauages. and was extrenmely well-read in the classics, philosophy, astronomy (he wrote a tractatus on astromony at 16),hisroty, philology.
By the end of his teens, he was one of the leading philologists in Europe.
His philosophy was discussed by both Shopenahaer and Nietzche, thouhg neither aknowledged their immense debte to him (especially Shopenahuer’s pessimism).