The military has sure learned its lesson from Abu Ghraib!
After being detained and jailed for three days in Fallujah, “19 employees of North Carolina-based Zapata Engineering, including 16 Americans,” were released and have resigned. The team of security guards was accused of firing at civilians and troops.
“I never in my career have treated anybody so inhumane,” one of the contractors, Rick Blanchard, a former Florida state trooper, wrote in an e-mail message. “They treated us like insurgents, roughed us up, took photos, hazed us, called us names.”
[T]he men were not allowed to call their families or others during their detention.
The Marines “‘slammed around’ several contractors, stripped them to their underwear and placed a loaded weapon near their heads,” reports the LAT.
“‘How does it feel to be a big, rich contractor now?’ the Marines shouted at the men.”
When the shoe’s on the other foot: We know that contractors get off for detainee abuse and murder, but it turns out they don’t have any rights either when they’re the ones being roughed up:
The LAT covers the legal limbo that contractors find themselves in:
“Two years into the [Iraq war], and there’s still a hole when it comes to a legal structure,” said Peter W. Singer, a Brookings Institution scholar who has written extensively on private military contractors.
“Where in the chain of command do [contractors] fit? Where is the accountability? If something bad happens, who investigates it, who prosecutes, and who punishes?” he asked.
An attorney for the men said he has contacted the FBI and a U.S. Congressman’s office about the treatment of the contractors.
What exactly happened that led to the contractors’ arrest and detention? The stories vary:
Lapan, the Marine Corps spokesman, gave a different account of the circumstances leading up to the detention.
On May 18, he said, a Marine patrol in Fallouja reported receiving fire from a convoy of late-model trucks and sport utility vehicles. The Marines also saw gunmen in the convoy fire at civilians in the streets of Fallouja, where reconstruction was taking place.
Three hours later, a second set of Marines at an observation post reported receiving fire from vehicles matching the description of the convoy involved in the earlier incident, Lapan said.
The Marines stopped the convoy using spiked strips in the road and took 16 Americans and three Iraqi translators into custody. Of the Americans, 14 were armed security personnel, according to the Corps of Engineers. …
Update [2005-6-8 7:36:57 by susanhu]:
This morning, Amy Goodman is interviewing a French journalist who was mistreated by U.S. troops. The audio and video are up; the transcript will be up later. The interview blurb:
This is not good for bidness. Rummy will answer for this.
Just FYI … I added an update, at the end of the story, after checking the Democracy Now! site … a French journalist was also roughed up by U.S. forces.
It’s such a fubar situation there that I find it hard to respond appropriately without feeling sad, angry, and confused as to how all this mess got started in the first place to begin with.
if these contractors are alleged to have committed what must certainly be a crime under Iraqi law, why were they not turned over to Iraqi police?
I mean Iraq has a sovereign government now according to our President. So why don’t we let the Iraqi justice system pursue this matter?
Yes, these are rhetorical questions folks.
Well they were allegedly shooting at US Marines. I don’t think anyone really cared that they were also allegedly shooting at Iraqi civilians.
Something’s sooo fishy with this. Why would they shoot at Marines?
proved that the Iraqis do not have sovereignty. The US did not ask permission to arrest the moderate Sunni leader, Mohsen Abdul-Hamid, head of the largest Sunni Arab political party. They broke down his door, one US military person kept his boot on the leader’s head for 20 minutes according to the man himself. He was hooded along with his sons and dragged away for detention while a translator shouted, “This is what you get for boycotting elections.”
It has done irreparable harm to relations and the leader publicly refused their apology.
I believe the Bremer rules are still in effect, they give immunity to Iraqi law to military and contractors.
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2004/jun2004/iraq-j25.shtml
Lemme get this straight: we are so confused as to who the enemy is until we’re detaining and torturing contractors?
My God, I don’t even know where to begin.
How does this make any sense? We’re paying dearly in every aspect of this crap and this idiot Admin. continues to say everything is fine?
Tell me again how this makes us safer?
They’re still taking photos???
It’s hard to tell in this case which is the lesser of two evils. . .marines who abuse contractors or contractors who abuse civilians.
This must be what hell looks like.
Aarr!!! Runs screaming from room.
I can barely keep it straight.
This IS hell. And apparently so many of us are so “Christian” that we continue to come back and ask for more.
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I think those guys are lucky they weren’t just disappeared.
Maybe stuff like that has happened already.
You are a master of understatement!
Yeah, that news story just reeks of envy.
this is one HUGE clusterfuck we have goin on over there!!
While I certainly think that roughing up ANYone in “dentention” (legalities of it aside — who even know what they are at this point) is appalling, I have to feel for these soldiers, the contractors, individually, probably don’t deserve their wrath (though a few proabably do), but really, what the fuck do they expect? Soldiers are being treated like so much cannon fodder, expdendable meat, while the contractors are laughing all the way to the bank with their limbs and minds intact. This was bound to happen. I predict we’ll hear more.
If they were, they’d be paid more, according to Susan’s next story up.
people, you can imagine the plight of the average Iraqi.
Feeling the hate.
At first I thought, peering in a blur over my glasses, that you’d written “Follow the hate” — not “Feeling the hate.”
But “Follow the hate,” just like “Follow the money,” works too.
they are trained to hate the enemy and they are in a land where they cannot ID the enemy.
You get the goods and all the goods. My husband has so feared this type of thing happening. There has been hostile feelings carried by troops bringing home $24,000 a year and risking life and limb towards civilians over there as contractors and taking home $100,000 a year for driving a truck in a fairly safe area. More specialized skilled jobs make even more than that. I’m almost afraid of sharing this with him because it will confirm his instinctive fears. My husband has always had amazing instinct about the group military think and feeling and been able to express it. Because there isn’t honest support for the war, lots of hawks want it but they aren’t signing up for it, my husband has said that our soldiers are going to begin to act more and more crazy with each passing day. Their lives are constantly at risk for intangible reasons and that tends to make people in that situation more than just a little angry and volatile and have I mentioned CRAZY yet?! God help us all because this is going to be a huge mess and I fear soldiers being blamed. Someone can only be in fight or flight for so long though before it leads to real damage inside ones self and outside ones self. We already know this though, but for some reason the reality was totally blocked out when this nation was busy with flag waving and parades sending their troops to war. Insane Americans!! The whole country is going to need therapy after this is done!
$100,000 a year for driving a truck
Myth. Democracy Now interview with Pratap Chatterjee, Executive Director of CorpWatch.org:
See below for Peter Singer’s article on PMFs. Also has articles on the history of military privatization.
Sorry that they are ripping people off. Promising them one thing and providing another. The mercs, oops sorry, Custer Battles makes big money though. We have a special forces aquaintance (can’t call him a friend) who took a job for them and is making $250,000 a year and he’s well armed over there. I wouldn’t say that Haliburton employees make bank. They hire from 3rd world countries. Most of the cooks for our military are from Jordan…so if you are connected to Haliburton you probably are making what looks like good money elsewhere in the world. Other people contracting in other areas though are making HUGE money!
Understood that special ops, and other highly trained (C-cubed-I) folk make bank. Just wanted to make sure people understand they’re about the only ones. I’m so way beyond angry at privatization. It’s important that the next administration de-privatize the entire military. You wear a uniform, you’re part of the mission – clerks and cooks included. You don’t and you’re just drawing a paycheck.
Haliburton was ripping off the American drivers. I saw a booth at a trade show when this all kicked off where they were trying to hire drivers, and they were sure making it sound sweet! They had to because the first thing everybody said was that it was too dangerous, so they were throwing a huge yearly sum of money figure out there trying to make the risk seem rational.
Peter Singer has written extensively on “Private Military Forces” (PMFs), is perhaps the foremost expert on the subject. The quote is from “Outsourcing War, Foreign Affairs, March 1, 2005″ [emphasis mine]:
Cowboys. Very dangerous cowboys. This country went sleep five minutes after Reaganites started taking away jobs from grunts and giving them to voracious corporate idiots. Again from Singer:
Special forces don’t retire. After the U.S. government trains them at great expense to us, they go to work for Halliburton. WTF. Get it over with. Privatize all of DoD.
Fascinating! Have you diaried this? I’m a big fan of Peter Singer, but we don’t want to get into that discussion again.
No, haven’t diaried yet. What discussion are you talking about? PMFs? Researched a bit and found Singer during Abu Grahib. Legal aspects blew me away:
War, Profits, and the Vacuum of Law: Privatized Military Firms and International Law. Columbia Journal of Transnational Law, Spring 2004
Clear explanation of why companies like Halliburton set up off-shore subsidiaries. This thing is global, and Iraq is only one small piece of a multibillion dollar industry. In virtually all cases the companies are beyond the reach of any laws.
You mean this Peter Singer, philosopher:

or this Peter Singer, fellow at Brookings:

or both?
I was, of course, referring to the Princeton philosophy prof. Didn’t know there were two. Cool. OVER AND OUT! :):)
Having the Mercs over there is very toxic to the our troop morale also. Our most serious gifted professional soldiers who have taken their careers very very seriously can just about quote the Geneva Convention. In Iraq they have turned loose these Mercs who are bound by no rules of engagement of any kind onto the battlefield better paid with our own disciplined soldiers, and our soldiers have witnessed the outcome. There are reports too numerous to count of the Mercs running around attached to convoys and firing on anything that moves just to make sure they have cleared the area of any hostility. Getting taken in by the Marines too can’t be good. The Marines are different, if not a little spooky to me. Everybody is a Marine first no matter what their rank or MOS…they have a feeling about equality among themselves and they hold each other to very very high standards. They believe that principles are more important than anything, and a Marine will eat dirt if it means not soiling his or her principles and I have known a few female Marines and I still can’t even come up with words to define what I have known in those women. In combat situations money means even less than the dirt under their boots to a Marine. I can’t see too many Marines ever becoming Mercs but I know a lot of Army special forces who had no trouble going to work for them. I suppose at this point a lot of Marines would tell you that the U.S. Army and their ilk are undisciplined unprincipled pukes.
Sorry not a fellow at Brookings, that’s the source of the article.
He is:
LOL. I’ve never heard of “the other guy”. I’ll remember to put Brookings on future posts.
If it’s the Saban Center that IS part of the Brookings Institute.
Here’s a link to their list of scholars.
I had not had my coffee yet.
I was trying to catch SusanHu. She is right 98% of the time, so I focus on that 2%. I’m mean and evil through and through.