In the past few days, a lot has been said about women. In those discussions, I was particularly bugged by one of Armando’s responses. More than once he lamented how few women responded to diaries about Larry Summers’ foolish statements on women’s abilities in science, in contrast to the multifold reactions to the ad on DailyKos. I tried to explain, but he didn’t buy it. I also witnessed Catnip’s parting exchange as it unfolded. I wrote a comment when her efforts at explanation were rejected. I suggesting that women describe some of their experiences that might help the `scales fall from the eyes” of those who could not see why many of us are upset. So, making good on my own suggestion, here’s my first real diary.
When I got my doctorate in 1988 (ok, stone age for many of you, I know), virtually all of the faculty in my program were male. This was something of a problem, as half of the doctoral students were female, a change from long-standing tradition. Our program was evaluated every few years for national accreditation by the professional society. A few students had complained of sexism to the professional society, citing statements from the faculty, such as this: “How could you get the top score on this test? You must have lots of brothers, because normal females don’t do well in science”, or “I don’t care if you are the best student in our program. You are damaging your reproductive destiny by being in graduate study, you know. Sooner or later you will drop out and that means a male has been cheated out of a place in graduate school”, or “Nothing personal, I know you are a strong student. But all my Research Assistantships go to men. Men become faculty, women become faculty wives. Hey, hey, just joking. Except about the assistantship, that’s still a No.”, or “If you weren’t a female, there’s no way you would have won that prize.”
The professional society began to worry about the women in my program. They told the faculty to hire some women, or else bring in a nationally renowned female scholar for an extended visit, to help mentor the women in doctoral study. After a bit, our faculty identified a woman that they thought suitable to come and stay for a couple of weeks. I was excited to meet her. She had an international reputation, lots of grant support and publications, and she taught at an esteemed national university. Two of us were asked to pick up this distinguished visitor at the airport and take her to her hotel. On the way back, my classmate jumped right into it, and asked the woman what advice she had for us as females, for advancing in our male dominated field. She smiled, and said proudly, “Use your sex.”
While I tried to avoid driving the car off the road, she continued, telling us how she, in graduate school 20 years or so ahead of us, had set her sights on the Chair of her department. She succeeded – by her standards – sleeping with him, and eventually marrying him. He was forced to leave because of the scandal (he had a wife and teenage children), but it worked out fine. She told us that at their next university, she set her sights on the Dean. She concluded, saying “It worked out well, because I got tenure just about the time my looks started to go.”
She stayed on our campus for two weeks, giving several talks. The scholarly content of her talks was excellent. This woman was and is very good at her work. At her first talk, I was still in shock over her personal advice. Nevertheless, I could not help but notice her dress. This woman wore a gauze dress and sandals. That was it. No other garments. The only parts of her body not clearly visible were her scalp and the tops of her shoulders. It was clear (no pun intended) that she had not altogether lost her looks!
The faculty sat on the front row, as did most of the male. We were all literally open-mouthed as the visiting prof talked, moving around the stage, frequently standing at the very edge of the stage, with one of her feet stepped up on a chair, her elbow resting on her knee. I thought suddenly of Marlene Dietrich in the Blue Angel. As my friend said later, all our mouths were open, but there was a lot of drool on the floor at the front where the men were seated.
Our distinguished visitor wore a similar outfit every day. She was quite popular with the faculty, but as the days passed, female students stopped coming to hear her presentations. Soon after she left, I was called in and questioned sharply about this apparent lack of interest on the part of the female students. The program director wanted me to tell the national Professional Society that the female students saw no benefit to having women faculty around. When I was not willing to say this, he wanted me to admit that I, like most women he had observed, constitutionally disliked other women and did not want to be taught by them. After all, he said, “You could not ask for a better role model.” I tried to point out her “unusual” dress, which he claimed not to have noticed, rejecting my observations as more evidence of female bitchiness. He observed that this was a clear sign that women would reject other women. Which is why, he added, he did not ever want to hire a female faculty member.
And how does this doctoral program fair now? Almost all of the doctoral students are women. Almost all of the faculty who were there when I was a grad student are still there. Several faculty have been hired (and some retired) since 1988. One prof is a woman, all the others are men.
Does it ever get better? I have a very close friend who has just retired, Prof Emeritus from Cal State Davis. She was in Wild Life Biology, a genius woman. The stories she tells me just make you so angry you want to take up something and start hitting people over the head. She was not a glamorous or what many men would consider a beautiful woman. But you couldn’t ask for a better teacher, a more competent person in her field, a well rounded and highly thought of person. Had to fight the battles every step of the way. Just as you and all the others have. (And frankly, I would never want to battle with her. . .a powerful woman in control of herself and her circumstance and with such superior intelligence, nope, not a person I would pick to battle).
I am so tired of it all, and as much similar crap as I endured, I think Acedemics have a much tougher battle, especially in so-called, non-traditional fields.
Thanks for sharing your story with us. I hope you will post more for us to share.
Yes, it does get better. There are places with several female faculty – that really helps a lot. Federal laws have helped, too. Much of that was set off by the women’s movement, to whom I owe so much (as well as to many strong women and encouraging strong men in my family and otherwise along the way). And I’m fortunate in having a very supportive spouse.
Thank you for sharing this. This is jaw-droppingly sick. I am curious, though – how did you deal with the sexism? Did it impede your ability to finish your degree or find a job in the academy?
outside of grad school. Those were most helpful. I often had to remind the guys of the quality of work I was doing. I didn’t have much difficulty finding an academic job, but I was very careful who I asked to write letters for me, and where I chose to go. Unfortunately, I think few places are free of sexism, at least not in the sciences.
I do have a lot of fun working with younger scholars, male and female, without forcing them into the gender/power stereotypes that were so unpleasant in my own experience.
Thanks for your comments, I appreciate them.
I once had dinner with one of the top women in my field. She told a story about teaching at university in the late 1960’s. She was married. She got pregnant. She was banned from teaching while she was pregnant because her pregnant belly was offensive.
Roll to the 1990’s. I’m in a top PhD program. I’m married. I got pregnant. The response? Well, I can’t be a very serious scholar to be getting pregnant in graduate school. (Coz you know, women are incapable of using our brains and our wombs simultaneously.) Ironically enough, several male grad students were married and while in grad school, their non-student spouses had babies. But that was expected–because that’s the way academia works. It’s still in many ways, built on the notion of the “genius” man who’s fully supported by his loving wife.
Here’s the part that was the hardest to deal with. In this program, with the exception of the asshole male professor who once told me that my desire to rearrange my committtee was evidence of my “psychological problems” that dictated I should go to a shrink, my worst experiences with academics was with older women. Instead of providing guidance, they seemed to get it into their heads that their job was to toughen us up, and drive us out, because they had suffered, therefore we should suffer. It was awful.
I think that’s what was one of the most difficult things for me, too. The “exemplary woman” also advised us to “Keep our child-bearing invisible”, by having children during sabbaticals, having judicious abortions, etc. As if you can always and so cavalierly time and manage having kids in this way!
In my field, there are huge differences, again, by subfield. In some subfields with more females, pregnancy is pretty much welcomed: one of my friends taught with her baby proped up on a desk in class, and she nursed him during the break. All with her male area-head’s approval. Although my area Chair wouldn’t suggest hiding in the closet, I know he was quite uncomfortable with this, but then, he was single, and had only one woman in his area (and no sisters, either).
I’m so pied out that I almost bounced away from this diary during the first paragraph – I’m really glad I continued reading. I think it’s important for us to continue sharing these stories – there are many strong, resilient, educated women here who know exactly why they freaked out over this mess, but I think there might be just as many who felt personally uncomfortable or attacked or betrayed and haven’t really put it all together yet. On behalf of a younger generation (I know I’m still in my 20’s, I don’t care what year it is) – thanks for putting some of the pieces together.
So here I am, 8 months pregnant and about to give my required seminar in pharmacokinetics (how drugs distribute in a body).
I’ve used the bathroom, organized the slides, and adjusted my loose top in nervousness.
I’m on.
Suddenly, my kiddo- the one who decided to live in my lungs- is doing the rhumba. My shirt shimmies and shakes like a pentacostal at a revival. I put up graphs and show slides, but everyone is mesmerized by the 9.5 earthquake happening in my belly.
Well, I did get an A. Maybe it was for aplomb.
Absolutely! I’m sure your body attracted attention, but so did your ability to get through your presentation in the middle of a perfectly normal biological event! Congratulations for moving right along. We (women and men) will be more accepting and more comfortable and more realistic about normal life – bearing kids, etc, while doing our work, when we let ourselves see more of it. You made me smile! Thank you!
Just what academic program were you giving your PK seminar for? I’m finishing up my post-bac PharmD now…
I was at USC, but chose not to continue.
Congratulations!
Whew! What a powerful writer you are, and what a powerful story you share. It illustrates how all women of age, regardless of class or level of education, have walked through the same fire. How I wish these your story and mine, and the storie of all of us, could be required reading for all.
Thank you. You are an exemplary woman and a superb storyteller.
This isn’t exactly how this was received on the other place. . Thank you.