Cross-posted at dailykos.com
According to Britain’s leading scientific organization, the Royal Society, carbon dioxide is making the world’s oceans increasingly acidic. The Royal Society has released 60 page report to coincide with the Group 8 economic meeting this week. The group’s current president, Prime Minister Tony Blair, has called for action to slow climate change.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/01/international/europe/01ocean.html
The effects of the increase can be measured now.
where the gas undergoes chemical reactions that produce carbonic acid, which is corrosive to shells.
Substantial change has already taken place in the last two hundred years.
But like the magnitude scale of earthquakes, one unit on the pH scale reflects a change of a factor of 10. The 0.1 pH change means there are now 30 percent more hydrogen ions in the water.
Depending on the rate of fossil fuel burning, the pH of ocean water near the surface is expected to drop to 7.7 to 7.9 by 2100, lower than any time in the last 420,000 years, the Royal Society report said.
While there have been times in the distant past where carbon dioxide levels have been high, the concern is that the current change is taking place too fast. That is, a slower increase would allow the oceans to
dilute the additional carbon dioxide.
Dr. Ken Caldeira, a research scientist at the Carnegie Institution’s Department of Global Ecology in Stanford, Calif., and a member of the Royal Society panel:
Coral reefs, already facing the problem of temperature change, will likely suffer further.
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We know global warming is happening. Now I would like to know, how much of the greenhouses gasses we are putting into the atmosphere, how much do we need to reduce, and how fast, to reverse the trend.
Then, having answered that question, we need to know concrete answers as to what we can do to reverse this trend: what is it going to take. Let’s start putting the answers on this site and others.
There is so much disagreement on these issues that we must do whatever can. Signing on to Kyoto would have been helpful since we are the world’s largest consumer of energy. It will be interesting to see if anything arises from the current meetings in Europe.
Can’t say everyone could do this,but:
In the long run, as a country, we have the technology now to do things like:
You have hit on the basic problem, and have perhaps noticed that there’s not much discussion of it. That’s because the situation is already so bad that if you think about it very much, it scares your pants off.
Serious scientific study has shown that we’ve already screwed up the planet, and that continued warming is inevitable EVEN IF WE STOP BURNING FOSSIL FUEL COMPLETELY RIGHT NOW.
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/7225653/
The atmosphere/ocean system has a lot of inertia, and would continue to drift in the wrong direction for quite a while–400 years–even if we completely stopped adding CO2 right away.
That is the basic problem that makes the whole discussion so tough: Politicians are trying to make points by arguing about the Kyoto treaty and things that we might do by 2020 to reduce our CO2 output by X percent, but actually what we need to do to “solve the problem” is such a radical change that it’s basically impossible. Even the most crazy radical commie nutcase leftist greens are just proposing to re-arrange the deck chairs.
To get the CO2 level back to preindustrial levels we would need to:
What politician is going to sign up for that sort of stuff? None. But they sure can make points pointing fingers at each other.