In a couple minutes. Did Bush’s comments today affect the issue? (Bush’s comments below the fold.)
From the whitehouse.gov:
… I also know there’s a lot of folks here in the United States that are, you know, wondering about troop withdrawals. They’re concerned about the violence and the death. They hear the stories about a loved one being lost to combat. And, you know, I grieve for every death. It breaks my heart to think about a family weeping over the loss of a loved one. I understand the anguish that some feel about the death that takes place.
I also have heard the voices of those saying, pull out now, and I’ve thought about their cry, and their sincere desire to reduce the loss of life by pulling our troops out. I just strongly disagree. Pulling the troops out would send a terrible signal to the enemy. Immediate withdrawal would say to the Zarqawis of the world, and the terrorists of the world, and the bombers who take innocent life around the world, you know, the United States is weak; and all we’ve got to do is intimidate and they’ll leave.
Pulling troops out prematurely will betray the Iraqis. Our mission in Iraq, as I said earlier, is to fight the terrorists, is to train the Iraqis. And we’re making progress training the Iraqis. Oh, I know it’s hard for some Americans to see that progress, but we are making progress. More and more Iraqi units are becoming more and more capable of fighting off the terrorists. And remember, and that’s a country where 8.5 million Iraqis went to the polls. They’ve said, we want to be free. And our mission is to help them have a military that’s capable of defeating those who would like to dash their ambitions to be free.
Withdrawing before the mission is complete would send a signal to those who wonder about the United States’ commitment to spreading freedom. You see, I believe and know that we’re at war, and we’re at war against a hateful ideology. And the way to defeat that ideology in the long-term is to spread a hopeful ideology, one that says to young girls, you can succeed in your society, and you should have a chance to do so; one that says to moms and dads, you can raise your child in a peaceful world without intimidation; and one that says to people from all walks of life, you have a right to express yourself in the public square.
It’s the spread of liberty that is laying the foundation of peace, and is very important for our citizens — no matter what side of the political aisle you’re on — to understand that the mission is a vital mission and it’s one that will be — that we obviously couldn’t complete if — if we — if we didn’t fulfill our goals, which was to help the Iraqis.
Yes, Steve.
Q Just to make clear, you’re referring to Mrs. Sheehan here, I think?
THE PRESIDENT: I’m referring to any grieving mother or father, no matter what their political views may be. Part of my duty as the President is to meet with those who’ve lost a loved one. And so, you know, listen, I sympathize with Mrs. Sheehan. She feels strongly about her — about her position. And I am — she has every right in the world to say what she believes. This is America. She has a right to her position. And I’ve thought long and hard about her position. I’ve heard her position from others, which is, get out of Iraq now. And it would be — it would be a mistake for the security of this country and the ability to lay the foundations for peace in the long-run, if we were to do so.
But no, Steve, I’ve met with a lot of families, and I have done my best to bring comfort to the families and honor to the loved one, and get different opinions when you meet with moms and dads and sons and daughters and wives and husbands of those who have fallen. One opinion I’ve come away with universally is that, you know, we should do everything we can to honor the fallen. And one way to honor the fallen is to lay the foundation for peace.
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She’s on … she’s very good.
Ron Reagan asked what she thinks that Bush is thinking about, and she said she wouldn’t speculate about him, that that wouldn’t be fair.
Now Medea Benjamin from Code Pink is on.
wish I could hear/see– who is debating?
So Bush will use Ms. Sheehan’s grief to make a political statement, but he won’t actually meet with her to explain to her in person what her son died for?
What a coward.
I agree. Tried to give this a 4 rating but it didn;t seem to take.
Bush has not made the case that the nation which Started the War and invaded a country under false pretenses should be the country to stay and somehow ‘make progress’. And he still won’t meet with Cindy..Why? Because he doesn’t have a script! And he certainly doesn’t have the answer to her questions.
Not answering her questions brings to mind one of his-even for him-more infamous statements, along the lines of ‘see I’m the president and I don’t have to answer to anybody’…wasn’t that from Woodward’s book?
And sorta turns around the whole idea that he or any president works for and is paid by us, the American public. I guess that just seems a rather quaint and wrongheaded notion to Mr. Vacationman.
is the language of bureaucracy and allows the speaker to distance himself from the subject:
“Mistakes were made.”
“the anguish . . . about the death that takes place.”
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Same shit… I’ve thought hurrd about her position and others have told me about her position… blah blah blah…
Why can’t he talk to her directly about her position. He’s always having to be told by others — about EVERYTHING.
Our committment to spread freedom… Oh cripes.. I think I’m going to vomit.
Only Bush could make spreading freedom sound like a sexually transmitted disease.
His cowardice in the face of Cindy’s challenge is very understandable. Throughout his entire illegal regime, he has hidden behind complete domination of our legislative and Judicial branches so that he would be accountable to no one on any matter.Through his well placed shills in the media he has managed to obliterate any semblance of opposition to his policies. By not holding Press Conferences where free questions could be asked, he has entirely avoided unpleasnat questions.
Into this perverse exercise of what transpires for Democracy, steps in a meek looking mother who is asking questions that no one in the media or the Congress has dared to ask this impostor.He is unable to meet with this mother and honestly answer her questions. That would expose the fraud that he has been all along.
What I find incomprehensible is why no one in Congress has joined Cindy.I will make an exception for John Conyers who has stood by Cindy’s side during his hearings and the later trek to present the petition to the Emperor.
Cowardice has become the disease of the moment.
How much you want to bet that he meets with Sheehan on Saturday or Sunday?
He’ll instantly take alot of the air out of the movement on a weekend… Which means it will be reported about ending on the weekend (the only one really reporting hard news on the weekend is sadly fox and who besides O’Reilly is “reporting” on her)
and nothing more will be covered about it during the week…
But either way with each passing day George is looking more and more like he’s on some different planet letting this poor woman sweat it out on his front lawn…
God bless her, I’m definitely now a big fan.