Are members suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder or pre-plamegate indictment anxiety?
One person writes a rant about our military and sets off a chain of events that are still rippling the pond. Oh well.
Here’s one piece of advice: One diary doesn’t represent this site or its culture. No one can make you angry unless you let yourself get angry. It takes two people to start a flamewar. And someone, somewhere, said something about turning the other cheek.
In any case, Judy Miller talks to Fitzgerald again tomorrow, “a discrepancy between the grand jury testimony of Karl Rove and Time Magazine reporter Matthew Cooper is the reason Rove will testify again” and Cheney is cancelling speaking engagements.
And as Daniel Schorr points out:
It may be remembered that the Watergate grand jury wanted to indict President Nixon for obstruction of justice. When advised that a sitting president could not be prosecuted, the grand jury named him as an unindicted coconspirator.
Sorting out flamewars is sometimes a part of my job, but it is not one of my keen interests.
This is:
As I said – take a step back from anger.
PPIA = Pre-Plamegate Indictment Anxiety here.
Memo to Fitzgerald: GET ON WITH IT ALREADY!!! (I ain’t gettin’ any younger here, folks…)
Oh, and in other news: YAY ANGELS!!! (Sorry Supersoling dear…) Wonder if tomorrow will bring news of heads rolling in the Bronx…
:o)
Thank goodness for the New York Football Giants!
suffering from post-A-Rod can’t buy a hit syndrome.
GO WHITE SOX!!!
Yeah. me too. I guess the Boss is gonna have to go out and buy some hits for next year. That whole team looked spent. Except for Jeter and Giambi.
which is to say, whoever’s playing the Yankees. I gotta say, though, they Yankees took it right down to the wire. Three hits in the ninth off of Frankie Rodriguez is quite an achievement.
half empty or half full?
Look on the bright side.
BooTrib Has Arrived.
I don’t know what an astrologer would say about this, but seeing that Moon hanging in the sky, a perfect half circle, always invokes a kind of tension. Like you want to say, get on with it already, don’t just hang there like some obscene asymmetrical thing, give me the fullness of yourself or be gone with you!
……so does this mean that the half lunitics are out???!!! :O)
Have you heard that more babies are born during a full moon? et al……….:o)
and we are seeing evidence of that here. Directly and indirectly we are all effected. PTSD definitely applies in some cases. Some of us have experiences from the Vietnam era, others have returned, have loved one’s that have returned, or loved one’s that have not returned from Iraq.
And all of us really, very deeply… care. These are not easy times and we need to be gentle with each other… and ourselves. Honest… but gentle. War divides. Warmongers divide. Hate spewers and fear mongers sow their seeds and if we are not careful we reep what they sow.
I say to my dear friends here…
Peace… be with you.
We’re workin on it.
people sometimes suck. sometimes they are wonderful.
but we are all human.
all we need to do is remember that,
cheers to you boo!
What is the latest word on when we find our who gets indicted?
I don’t want to jinx anything but Cheney is just enough of a pompous bastard to have gotten himself in this big. Maybe by the grace of god he’s the one who told Novak about Plame. Sorry I drifted into a happy place for a second.
Here’s what I think and experience: Everything is either love or a cry for love, and the only sane response to pain is love.
I find this hard to apply to Republicans. π
Ah, but it does. The problem is that too many Republicans do not recognize the real source of their pain. Which also makes it difficult for them to recognize love.
And that is the tragedy of it, unfortunately.
Dammit, I was about to say that π
good catch!
I find this hard to apply to Republicans. π
Oh – screw them.
(I need to be nasty sometimes too to maintain my tough herb reputation.)
Fear me. Fear the catnip. Fear the power of the herb cats love.
or something…
You have discovered the solution. We need Republican “catnip,” so they can just roll in it and be happy. Oh, wait, it already exists and it’s called “tax cuts.” Damn! I thought you were really on to something!
Their “catnip” isn’t tax cuts. That is a surrogate for power.
Power is their catnip.
Take it away, and they scratch and claw to get it back. Give it to them and they use it to hurt or subjugate others, and that is the proof (to them) of their power.
It needs to be taken from them, and then they need to be declawed.
Military AND religion…in one afternoon…
Natives are getting a little restless. All will be forgiven with Karl comes marching out.
Military AND religion…in one afternoon…
Throw family in there and you have a typical dysfunctional holdiay dinner.
and its name is Daniel Schorr.
We have to realize that we are approaching the time of his final story.
Hang in there Daniel. I’d love to hear your perspective on a story bigger than Watergate but that leaves you personally out of the line of fire this time around.
No one can make you angry unless you let yourself get angry.
Untrue – especially in the case of PTSD. When I attended 12 step programs the mantra was “no one can make you feel what you don’t choose to feel”. When you look at the neuroscientific research into how the brain processes thoughts and emotions scientists can nail down the brain synapses response times to nanoseconds (or whatever their measurement is). Consequently, an emotion can hit you almost faster than a speeding bullet without you having chose it in the first place.
I used to have discussions with my PTSD therapist – a psychiatrist – about this topic and he agreed with me. So there. π (That’s the weak “appeal to authority” part of my argument).
(There is an excellent discussion of the science involved in this in the book “Destructive Emotions” which is a dialogue between scientists and the Dalai Lama including details about experiments that have been conducted to measure the effects of meditation on the brain. You can train your mind to react differently but it requires dedicated, long-term work.)
Rove who? Plamegate what? I have patience. I just don’t want to end up disappointed if the results of the investigation are basically inconsequential.
didn’t involve me?
Yes, but I can start one with you if you like.
Based on my past history here I only get involved in Flame wars with names that begin with P or Y not CATNIP..so that would not include you..thank God because as you know..J’ adore Catnip. I am looking forward to your blogging the Bush Impeachment hearings along with the VP Impeachment hearings along with the next Nominee to the bench of the SCOTUS. I think in my entire history here I have gotten two 1’s and that was from the same person who I can’t stand along with another selfrightous indie…I don’t think Gailei(Sp) or however he/she spelled it every flamed me even though I begged for her/his banning. Boy do I wish I could see those hidden comments here now. oh well C’est la Guerre
Geez, I’d better take typing lessons if I’m going to be live blogging all of that!
You need mojo? Say something oustanding and I shall provide some. π
are there hidden comments that I can’t read? say something…hum….Bush is an Asshole.
don’t forget to eat cheesecake.
This is what I love about this site.
When fights break out other sites berate or purge.
Regulars here (including our host) say “calm down…just don’t be a prick.”
That’s one of the things I love about this site.
Amen!
Guy walks into a blog at 1:30 a.m. and says to the blog-tender, “1-2-3-4, We don’t want your stinking war.”
Blog-tender says, “It ain’t my stinking war. I was ready to charge the guys with the machine guns at the White House just weeks ago.”
Wow. Lame. I think I am plame out of thoughts in the head to write.
Interesting debate around here last couple of days. Rather intense for the green place. At least I got my Booman T-shirt today. That made it all the more fun. My daughter said, about the frog, “That’s that guy from the computer.” She’s cute.
Well. This too will pass, huh?
Good night, and good luck.
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Sorry about your day-off Booman, in such a manner you need the Monday to recover.
Oh well, that makes you one of us who need the Monday to get the week started, and recover from the weekend.
Hear the BooMan when he’s on pond’s edge …
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I’m new here. Where can I find the comment that has called all the fuss?
Welcome to the Pond, Quentin.
Tis much more complicated than a “comment.” Actually several diaries involved, and hundreds of comments.
The important issues involved will come around again on the guitar. And also the present recommended diaries cover quite a lot of it.
Stop be the Froggy Bottom Cafe and introduce yourself. They’ve always got something hot on the burner.
link.
I also was in the dark and trying to figure out what happened. As someone on the outside, I am glad that all the people involved seem to have somehow (a little?) resolved their differences.
The issue seemed to be the extent to which the actual troops on the ground bear moral responsibility for what is going on in Iraq. I hope that everyone here can agree that it is this illegal, stupid, destructive, counterproductive war that is the source of the problem. If it weren’t for Bush there wouldn’t be any US servicemembers over in Iraq.
Welcome to the Pond Quentin!
As much as it would give everyone satisfaction to see Turdblossom to the perp walk, it solves nothing. Even if Shrubya is impeached, even if he resigns, Cheney will be in charge, at least in title since he is likely already in charge now. Should he be removed, Hastert is next? How much of the tumor must be removed? For what purpose?
Until the American public wakes up to its massive ignorance, we will continue to vote politicians into office who choose not to work for the public good. From your local board of commissioners to the office of the President, we elect showmen rather than statemen.
I disagree. Rove being frogmarched would obviously be cathartic for us, but would also represent the beginning of criminal indictments as you suggest.
That there is a “culture of corruption” in the Republican Party is taking hold in the public mind. I think Rove going to jail would cement it there. The American public will never “wake up” in the way you and I wish, so I think owning the narrative is the best we can do.
You keep slicing until you get it all or when there seems to be no hope they just die. Is there an Exorsist in the house?
to miss all the fights around here? I spend lots of time at BMT, really I do. And you know me–I get cranky like everyone else.
Oh well, I’m glad I missed whatever Boo is talking about today, as well as the last-Friday-night-into-Saturday fracas about something else.
This is a great site and great community. Keeping things positive is a lot of work. Let’s not leave that all to BooMan.
Booman,
I just read your FAQ as to what this site is about, and my concern is that you are allowing non-Democrats to hijack the blog to the point where people like myself, aligned with you and your stated goals, do not feel particularly welcome here or to be using time productively by engaging a large segment of the “Booman community.”
you sound like you’re new as well — welcome.
This isn’t a “Democratic” blog to be hijacked by “non-Democrats” as you put it. Unlike a certain other place, we’ve got plenty of room for lots of opinions, as long as people are honest and open about them, and don’t engage in side-tactics like name-calling.
First rule of Boo is — Don’t Be A Prick. Having honest opinions that differ from the mainstream of the Democratic Party (which has definitely come under fire round these parts) isn’t being a prick — but calling someone an asshole for disagreeing with those opinions is.
Again, welcome aboard…
They oxygenate the pond. With any luck, in the process they also burn away excess accumulations of self-seriousness.