OK People…Yes, I know a Federal Prosecutor is conducting a grand jury investigating the Plame Leak. There is no way I couldn’t know, BECAUSE IT’S ALL WE SEEM TO TALK ABOUT.
Fitzgerald appears to be doing a damn good job. He’s keeping silent.
We have no idea what he will do. None. Zip. Nada. We won’t know until he indicts anybody. That’s the point of a Grand Jury’s secrecy.
All this speculation — so and so said X — means, well, nothing.
We’ll know soon enough. Let the man do his job — and get back to yours.
Let the man do his job — and get back to yours.
What is my job? Or what do you perceive it to be?
Keeping us in line. 😉
And how am I doing so far? 🙂
You’re maaahvelous!!!
Flattery will get you everywhere. 🙂
Bonddad, you’re the Grinch that Stole Fitzmas.
Party pooper.
the grinch. Where’s the small dog I can abuse?
Um…how is our talking, or not talking, about it affecting his ability to do his job? Can’t we talk about it AND let him do his job at the same time?
Bonddad, many of us find it — at the least — entertaining. If it is bothering you, I’d suggest not reading the stories about the leak.
AND (!) I’d suggest people just ignore this thread — i.e., if you can help it, don’t post here. It can’t come to any good.
We have enough REAL things inflamming our emotions without creating any storms here among friends.
Every single diary is about it, I’m read out and I’m analized out and nothing has happened even yet and it didn’t happen last week and hopefully it will happen this week as the rumors would indicate but I’m not sure today or yet but the rumors say tomorrow and it’s in Washington so he’s fishing for someone to cut a deal but probably not but everybody is going to leave for break so somebody should so something pretty soon. I be tired of it…..I be so tired I would venture to call it chilling….I am brain dead and my gray matter in it’s death grows cold and my self gratification meter already set on a long term setting has run out of juice to run. I am your Zombie captive! Now what was you saying bout the ecomony……….I mean the economy?
Every single diary is about it
Untrue, but I certainly understand your fatigue with this topic. That’s very real for many of us. However, I think the thing to do is to stay away from what causes you zombieitis and read about what does interest you.
We’ve been on pins and needles for a long time and that takes its toll. It’s not unusual for that anxiety, frustration and excitement to build into anger and despair. Just ask any woman who’s ever been overdue waiting for the birth of her baby!
We’ll all get through this but we need to support each other in order to do that.
go read my diary abt the troops in afghanistan, or the iraqi constitution excluding women’s rights.. or my snarky bite at kos and “pet issues”… I’m reading about it too, but also seeking out other stories as well to keep some balance and perspective… as dark as that is these days… 😉
It affects almost everything that matters to us:
and on and on and on
That’s why it’s so big. This scandal gave us a WAR. This scandal was ll about how the administration lied to the media and Congress.
And when you add in today’s story about Bush knowing 2 years ago what Karl had done, and lying about how the leaker would be fired, if true, it makes it an even bigger story.
More than a bungled burglary or a stained blue dress, IMO. We wish Bush was focused on getting a blowjob, instead of systematically destroying everything we thought our country stood for.
My job title is “Plamegate Theorist,” so I ought to be getting a raise soon.
Seriously, I hear what you’re saying. We can get all worked up in the absence of details, and get our hopes way, way up for something that may end up much differently than we expect.
It’s a worthwhile caution, and we all get sick of seeing similar diaries crop up (although…did you write this for DKos first or something?). But the issues at hand here could not have more importance, and we deserve a break. Justice deserves a break. So I hope this is the last scolding we’ll receive on this topic.
I will not chill out!
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!
I’M RUNNING AMOK RIGHT NOW!!!! AHHHHHHHH!!!!
NOW I AM THROWING A TANTRUM AND HYPERVENTILATING!!!
AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
<collapses in exhaustion>
Whew. Whew.
Ok, I feel better now.
For Rampant Speculation. If they can do it over stocks in the market, Bondad, then I want to be able to do it over Plamegate at the Booman Tribune. 🙂
this site has a frog in hand-cuffs as its mascot. Our motto is ‘we won’t rest until they’re frog-marched out’. There is no chance that we will fail to update the community with every shred of information that becomes available, and to cover the trials with mustard, ketchup, and most importantly, relish.
Sorry bonddad. It’s our schtick.
I know…I just had to say it.
I understand the excitement — hell, I’m really excited. But, until me know for sure what the deal is, it is mostly just speculation.
It just seems everybody is getting ahead of themselves on this.
it is mostly just speculation
I haven’t counted all of the words pushing pure speculation, but I have seen a lot of fact-based diaries that provide background information (Susan’s WHIGS and Wurmser, my John Hannah along with many others).
In order to understand what the MSM is reporting about this case, we need to dig to find out what happened. With that does come speculation but it also involves fact-checking here at BT and we have some of the best sleuths out there. We’ve been linked by many other bloggers who have counted on our work – especially that of Susan, Larry Johnson and Boo.
It’s not speculation to unearth all of these facts about how the White House connived to make us go to war … and to piece together the “players” who made this happen …. and even if, in past years, some of may have read all of this information, we’ve probably not seen it in a while and need to review it. And, for those for whom a lot of this is new information, it is vital that they know it.
Take these two simplistic examples:
There’s a pattern there…. a critical pattern.
And I — ignorant me — didn’t know about Wurmser’s role in all of this until this morning when I heard his name in connection with the Leak case, and went hunting. I NEED to learn about how this war was SOLD to us.
Bonddad, this is like living in a really well written spy novel, ala John leCarre…sex, intrigue, back stabbing, politics, sleazy wars and media whores, spys with questionable motives and allegiances, exciting international locations, inept, corrupt politicans and spinmeisters, billions of dollars, and sex…did I mention sex?
Fuck man, this is GREAT!…don’t spoil the fun…grab some popcorn and your favorite beverage and enjoy the show.
Peace
Given the overnight cold snap here in Colorado, it would be more fun to fuck the chill out. 😉
Bah, this isn’t cold. Try walking to the bus stop in Steamboat Springs when the bank says -68. It’s not even snowing, it’s just this weird liquid water stuff falling from the sky…
All kidding, of course. Your suggestion is still highly recommended.
“Cold snap” in the relative sense–a migraine-inducing plunge from near 80 yesterday to mid-40s today. Enough to cause all the trees to shed their leaves in one big plop out in the yard.
A dip at Strawberry Hot Springs would feel pretty darned good about now.
and even without a big weather change, there are days this time of year where the high and low are more than 45 degrees apart. I send my son to school with at least two sets of clothes every day.
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When I was in third grade, our teacher took us on a field trip up Strawberry Park to visit our wonderful natural Hot Springs and talk about how such a geological curiosity happens. We got there, and what did we see?
Raging Hippies!
Six or seven naked people with long hair, literally smoking pot and fucking. Mrs. Stanko actually tried to cover kids’ eyes as she screamed at the bus driver to turn it around and get out of here, quick!
Best. Field. Trip. Ever.
I am going to have to tell all of my old hippie friends your field trip story. Heck, some of them might have been there!
Now this is what makes us all at each others throat…:o( I can see why. The suspense is horrifing, indeed! There is simply not one damn thing we can do out here to hurry anything or anyone in this whole investigation.
I want something that will hold water when they do present! NOt something the talk show heads will have many days of fun with…
I am frankly suprised they can talk about Wilma dn SH all in the same program! It has been goin on all day long…and I suppose should; however, there is so much out thre to be reported that they are just do strained…so lets have it when they get it to us…beside, I think I have heard that the GJ only meets on M-W-F…so if not today then look for something on Friday..and then there is next week…{{shudder}}!!!!!!!!!!
I know how you all feel, even including Bonddad, too. Just take a deep breath and sit back and say …what ever is comfy for you in times like this. It certainly will help the anxiety syndrome and save on the old B/P…I will believe it when I see/hear it. I do take some happiness in Delays arrest today….God this took forever!!!!!!!! BUT FINELY!!!!!!!!!!!
the better — it probably means more folks are coming out of the woodwork, trying to cut a deal, and that just draws the noose even more tightly around the main culprits.
I don’t remember if it’s something I read or if it was on “Countdown”, but I recall someone saying that only two people don’t cut deals: those who truly believe they are 100% innocent and those who are so guilty no deal can be cut. It’s the folks in the middle that Fitz is trying to get to sing against their bosses.
At least, I hope so…