(UPDATED) Liberal Bloggers For Samuel Alito

Posted by Ron Brynaert | Nov 1, 2005 | 35 |

(apologies cause this wasn’t aimed at Booman peeps…but more at dk and elsewhere…and i should have mentioned that)

…ummmmm….

Just what the hell do some of you bloggers think you are going to accomplish by calling Samuel Alito a Nazi or a motherfucker?

I’ll tell you what you’re going to accomplish.

You’re going to help him get confirmed.
Every single one of you that uses such words – over and over and over again – or links to others who do so will be responsible for helping confirm a radical right winger who believes in strip-searching ten-year-old girls, in compelling women to get the approval from their husbands before getting abortions, and that racism isn’t racism unless the word itself is employed.

Enjoy your free speech while you got it.

You’re making all of us look bad.

And you’re making them look more reasonable and (dare I say it?) “reality based.”

Show some responsiblity, please.

Because you’re not doing anything at all but helping them win.

You’re making a tough fight for a minority party even tougher. You’re damaging our credibility. You’re giving reasonable folks a reason to tune us out.

And when it’s done…when SCOTUS is radicalized to the hard right…will you be able to look into a mirror and recognize the motherfucker who helped make it happen?

Yeah. I admit it. Off the record and off the Worldwide Internet I’d probably use the M-word to describe his type.

But certainly not to the extent that some bloggers have chosen to do so.

And if you haven’t realized by now that using the N-word is political suicide then I suggest you find something else to do with your free time because you haven’t got a clue.

You’re doing exactly what they want us to do.

Please. Stop. And. Think. Before. You. Blog.

About The Author

Ron Brynaert

35 Comments

Connecticut Man1 on November 1, 2005 at 8:24 am

And playing footsie under the table with republicans has worked real well the last decade? I’ll call the Farrrr right wing nuts whatever I want. And unlike Dem supporters I’ll call out weak-kneed right wing moderate Dems for what they are. (You know? the Dems that got use where we are by being so polite and thoughtful.)

Sure I’ll reach across the aisle to the conservatives… And grab them by their ties and choke the fuckin’ life out of the Corporatist/Fascist/Nazi MoFos. Call them what you want.

No offense to you personally, BUT PFFFFFT! lol

Don’t try and tell others what they should think or do. We get enough of that from the right-wing-nuts.
- Ron Brynaert on November 1, 2005 at 10:38 am
  
  well…if you’re trying to tell me what not to do or say then aren’t you being a hypocrite?
  
  and there ain’t no difference between a right wing nut and someone who freely uses the word nazi.
  
  who the hell said anything about playing footsie or reaching across aisles (though i’m not necessarily against the latter)?
  
  i said don’t use terms like nazi or motherfucker repeatedly (one motherfucker per article wouldn’t be as nutty looking) because you scare away reasonable people
  
  and god help us if reasonable people is a codeword for republicans…cause i certainly don’t think so…i tend to think that the vast majority of gopers are unreasonable
  - Connecticut Man1 on November 1, 2005 at 10:51 am
    
    I am very clear about what I am saying.
    
    Call them what you want.
    
    No offense to you personally, BUT PFFFFFT! lol
    
    Don’t try and tell others what they should think or do. We get enough of that from the right-wing-nuts.
    
    Call them what you want. Call me what you want. Call me a hypocrite too. Just don’t tell me or others what we have to think or do.
    
    You are splitting hairs on a bald man with your hypocrite remark.
ROGNM on November 1, 2005 at 9:34 am

“You can’t say ‘Please don’t be mean to me. Please let me win sometimes.’ Give me a break here,” Clinton said. “If you don’t want to fight for the future and you can’t figure out how to beat these people then find something else to do.”
- Ron Brynaert on November 1, 2005 at 10:29 am
  
  So you think Clinton meant we should call Republicans motherfuckers and nazis…
  
  sheesh
  
  i never said lay down and play dead…just choose your words wisely
  - ubikkibu on November 1, 2005 at 11:46 am
    
    Ron Brynaert,
    
    Can you please point out examples of where BooMan Tribune members have used the words “Nazi” and “motherfucker” in reference to Alito?
    - Ron Brynaert on November 1, 2005 at 1:07 pm
      
      absolutely none…
      
      i just don’t post at daily kos anymore…and a lot of people linked to rude pundit
      
      maybe i should have said it had nothing to do with the bloggers here….my bad
      - Man Eegee on November 1, 2005 at 1:10 pm
        
        thanks for clarifying Ron.
      - ubikkibu on November 1, 2005 at 1:11 pm
        
        I would accept your mea culpa and we could be friends again.
        
        But since you’ve admitted you made it all up and have no citations, I can’t. This whole thing is very disappointing.
      - Ron Brynaert on November 1, 2005 at 7:01 pm
        
        i didn’t make anything up….not sure why you’d say that
        
        guess i thought people would agree with what i wrote here…i didn’t want to put daily kos link or mention atrios or rude pundit or other blogs cause i assumed that people wouldn’t be calling me a liar before technoratiing it for themselves…also booman’s complained about anti-kos diaries anyway
        
        didn’t want to piss people off or inflame
        
        wanted to try to get my point of view across strong…but i really should have said it wasn’t directed at the people here
      - Connecticut Man1 on November 1, 2005 at 1:43 pm
        
        You point to what is basically a satire blog, The Rude Pundit, for doing this… Yet I fail to see one Nazi reference in this entire Diary:
        
        Samuel Alito, Another Motherfucker For America:
        
        Remember that it’s a rule that holds fast and true: if George W. Bush gets to appoint someone to a position, that person will be a motherfucker. John Roberts, motherfucker; John Bolton, motherfucker; John Negroponte, motherfucker; Michael Brown, motherfucker and little bitch. In the hopper right now is Ellen Sauerbrey, who is a motherfucker of proportions that will ensure the rest of the world hates us even more than they already do. And, now, of course, we have Samuel Alito, the latest Supreme Court nominee after Harriet “Nope, She’s a Motherfucker, Too” Miers withdrew after being gang-raped by the conservative right.
        
        Samuel Alito is such a motherfucker that he supported the rights of cops to strip search a ten-year old girl who was not named in a search warrant because, as he stated, “[I]t is a sad fact that drug dealers sometimes use children to carry out their business and to avoid prosecution,” which also means that it’s a sad fact that the girl’s got no rights to unreasonable search and seizures. Which means, really, none of us do if we happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.
        
        (By the way, what is it about the Bush adminstration’s Supreme Court nominees’ savage anger towards pre-teen girls? We had John Roberts saying that it was jim-fuckin-dandy to treat a 12-year old girl eatin’ french fries on the subway in DC like she was Aileen Wuornos giggling over the gutted corpse of a dead john. And now we have Alito allowing cops to, without cause, molest a child.)
        
        And, yep, like a good motherfucker, Alito offers support for other motherfuckers: he’s for abused wives being forced to tell their motherfucker spouses if they’re pregnant, he’s for non-whites to have the color of their skin used as a factor for hiring by motherfuckers, and he believes motherfuckers running colleges can discriminate agains the disabled.
        
        If Alito proclaims a respect for previous precedent or other courts, he’s lying like an imprisoned Scooter Libby telling a jailhouse Muslim that he never supported the torture of Gitmo inmates. Alito dissented from a decision that upheld the legality of a ban on the sale or ownership of machine guns manufactured after 1986 in the United States v. Rybar. Rejecting the use of the Commerce Clause as a means to overturn the law that banned the guns, the majority said that it was joining with decisions made in half a dozen other circuit courts.
        
        And, according to the Washington Post, on September 24, 1986, Deputy Assistant Attorney General Sam “Motherfucker-in-training” Alito helped author a Justice Department policy that “said that discrimination based on insufficient medical knowledge was not prohibited by federal laws protecting the handicapped. Employers, it said, may legally fire AIDS victims because of a ‘fear of contagion whether reasonable or not.'” The Justice Department’s position was rejected by many states, including some that reacted by barring discrimination against people with AIDS. Alito, whose work helped foster some of the hysteria about AIDS during the Reagan era, said, “We certainly did not want to encourage irrational discrimination,” but the reaction to it “hasn’t shaken our belief in the rightness of our opinion.”
        
        There will be more, there will be more about Alito in the days and weeks to come to demonstrate just how many mothers he’s fucked. One guesses, since this is raw meat for the Christian right, it’s gonna be a lot.
        
        Meanwhile, in the most gruesome display, Bill Frist escorted Alito to the Rotunda, where, under lockdown, Alito was encouraged to fuck the corpse of Rosa Parks. Carefully opening the casket, Frist told Alito that he could go first, but to save a bit for him. “Why not?” Alito thought as he unbuckled his pants. The President had already been there and fucked Rosa Parks’ corpse earlier in the week, just before nominating Alito, winking at the statue of Thomas Jefferson as he took the deceased activist as his own. Ahh, the echoes in the Rotunda, with Sir Walter Raleigh, Abraham Lincoln, and others looking on, of Alito’s grunts for liberty and justice for all.
        
        So… Essentially you are doing exactly what Drudge was doing when he was race-baiting.
        
        Might I suggest that, in the interest of being realistic and fair, you delete this baseless diary entry of yours.
        
        It is clearly A DISTORTION OF REALITY AND TRUTH.
      - Connecticut Man1 on November 1, 2005 at 2:31 pm
        
        Motherfucker is just part of the Rude Pundits schtick… The same things that might be repeated at one of The Rude Pundits comedy shows at comedy clubs.
        
        You may as well ask Andrew “Dice” Clay to start saying “Hickory dickory dock, the mouse ran up the clock” instead of his usual vulgar nursery rhymes.
      - Ron Brynaert on November 1, 2005 at 6:47 pm
        
        um…
        
        daily kos top rated diary the other night and a few other places…technorati it…used nazi repeatedly
        
        rude pundit is satire….but atrios linked to it
        
        whatever…basically i spent whole night researching article saw that shit pissed me off
        
        but i didn’t make up shit
      - Ron Brynaert on November 1, 2005 at 6:48 pm
        
        and andrew dice clay said some racist sexist shit
      - Connecticut Man1 on November 1, 2005 at 8:46 pm
        
        Since you have declined to provide a link to any of your supposed points… What more do I need to say?
        
        As for Atrios linking to The Rude Pundit: Now we can’t link to satire sites either? I hate to break it to you, and it may be news to you, but many of us have a sense of humour.
brinnainne on November 1, 2005 at 10:13 am

Please.

He’s confirmed no matter what. Better to go down fighting than to sit around with thumbs up asses, as per usual.
- Ron Brynaert on November 1, 2005 at 10:31 am
  
  No.
  
  Calling someone a nazi or a motherfucker is not the language of a fighter.
  
  And if you’re already cynical about the results….you ain’t a fighter at all.
  - catnip on November 1, 2005 at 10:52 am
    
    Who called him those names? Is this aimed at Booman Tribune?
  - brinnainne on November 1, 2005 at 10:55 am
    
    I didn’t call him ANYthing.
    
    Second, being realistic about what will happen isn’t your style? Fine. Don’t EVER tell me that I am not a fighter.
    
    I’ll fight. The democrats won’t. He will be confirmed.
- Militarytracy on November 1, 2005 at 11:29 am
  
  Miss You!
  - brinnainne on November 1, 2005 at 11:41 am
    
    Hey there! Will you be around this weekend? I need a serious dose of Tracy-talk — tell me a good time to call!
    - Militarytracy on November 1, 2005 at 12:52 pm
      
      all weekend. All we do is work on the house. Next weekend my husband starts refinishing the Kitchen cabinets because………..HE’S NUTS I think, but hey hubby go for it.
      - brinnainne on November 1, 2005 at 12:54 pm
        
        Yay! I’ll talk with you then!
        
        (((((tracy and josh and matt and bren)))))
Man Eegee on November 1, 2005 at 11:32 am

FWIW, I haven’t seen those references here at Booman; can you point me to an exchange?
ubikkibu on November 1, 2005 at 11:41 am

You’re making all of us look bad.

Look in the mirror, chief.

You have a worthwhile point: the demonization of Alito can go overboard and in theory provide a contrarian excuse for conservatives to support him.

Then you go off the rails by claiming that anyone who calls Alito names is responsible for his confirmation.

Sorry, we’re fighting liberals here. Your talking points won’t fly.
media girl on November 1, 2005 at 12:14 pm

We don’t have to say anything for the radical right to make shit up and put it in our mouths. I mean, look at what they say already:

Liberals want to kill babies.
Liberals want France to rule America.
Liberals want everyone to live coddled lives.
Liberals want to ban the Bible.
Liberals hate America….

So I wonder what the hell you’re talking about, because they’re saying crazy stuff already.

Meanwhile, Alito is a radical that makes Scalia look moderate. What part of that don’t you get? Do you think the goal is to just continue to play nice, like the Democrats in Congress have? A lot of good it’s done them!

You either stand up for what’s right, or sit for everything. Where do you fall on that? How can you say you’re for Alito and call yourself a liberal?
- Ron Brynaert on November 1, 2005 at 1:14 pm
  
  um..where did i say i was for alito…in fact spent the whole night working on an article that might go at rs later today
  
  the title was in reference to bloggers who use nazi and mfs…i screwed up by not saying that it wasn’t aimed here
- Connecticut Man1 on November 1, 2005 at 1:15 pm
  
  Drudge’s race-baiting over the Scalita appointment…
  
  The recent C&L diary on Drudge, the response from Hunter, and the repeating of Drudge’s right wing-nut talking points about the alleged “Lefty racism” by tweety…
  
  Well, that is right about where my opinion is on this diary.
  
  Not “race-baiting”, but baiting with (possibly) a negative intent. Something I would expect only from the DLC types or the right wing GOP talking point brigade.
  
  Funny that this is the very first diary with a “Nazi reference” concerning Scalita that I have read in all of the diaries I have read here, and at other Blogs.
  - Ron Brynaert on November 1, 2005 at 6:52 pm
    
    whatever
boran2 on November 1, 2005 at 12:21 pm

You still have provided no link to useage of these terms, but technically the popular definition seems spot on when applied to this individual.

From wikipedia:

The term Nazi typically refers to someone who affiliates oneself with or is perceived to be affiliated with the ideology of the former National Socialist German Workers Party (Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, commonly called NSDAP or the Nazi Party). The term can be used as a noun or an adjective for such a person or thing.

In pop culture, the term nazi (lowercase “n”) can also be coupled with another word to imply overzealousness, aggression or hostility — negative qualities often associated with the Nazi Party. Such usage was popularized in the November 2, 1995 episode of the successful 1990s sitcom Seinfeld. The plot centered around a soup stand vendor who dispenses his wares in a harsh manner, thus becoming the titular “Soup Nazi.”. Such usage of the term is often humorous, although it can also be a pejorative. Other examples include feminazi, grammar nazi, fashion nazi, and Econazi. Many criticize the use of such terms as they appear to diminish the crimes of Nazi Germany during the Second World War.

If the shoe fits.

He will likely be confirmed but not because some lefty blogger called him a nazi.
ubikkibu on November 1, 2005 at 12:40 pm

If you assert that BMT members were using the terms “Nazi” and “motherfucker” regarding Alito, please provide us a couple of examples. Several of us have now asked you for this, and I think it would be ethical of you to do so.

If you’re talking about comments made at your blog, or at Daily Kos or elsewhere, or if you’ve simply invented them, then I think this diary was mistargeted and merits an apology.

I’ve written diaries before in the heat of the moment and later realized I’d made a mistake. I said so, and I deleted it in one case. Please clarify, or you’re going to have a mountain to climb if you want to be taken seriously here again.
- ubikkibu on November 1, 2005 at 12:57 pm
  
  Here’s the first comment in response to his missive at his own blog. See if you can tell how it’s not “reality-based”:
  
  Ron, it's too bad that you actually have to post something like this. Liberal doesn't necessarily equal smart.
  I personally have not read anything like what you posted, but I can imagine it's out there. So I'll add my two cents: KNOCK IT OFF! Mixter Mixter | Homepage | 11.01.05 - 11:03 am | #
- Ron Brynaert on November 1, 2005 at 1:13 pm
  
  well..i added my apology after i read first few comments and before i read yours…
  
  but you’re right
  
  it was dkos and everyone who linked to rude pundit…i just didn’t name names
  
  didn’t mean to direct at it people here…just thought it would be recieved better and ever since the abortion and pie fights i don’t post diaries at dkos anymore
  - boran2 on November 1, 2005 at 1:27 pm
    
    What is most interesting is that no one here has gotten into a ratings fight. Very telling.
    - Connecticut Man1 on November 2, 2005 at 3:19 am
      
      … Is the beuty of living in a truly reality based world.
      
      Say what you think… Worry about whether it is right or wrong after you have discussed it.
      
      Then form an honest opinion of what is the truth based upon the facts.
      
      I must admit that I have posted outrageous stuff in the heat of the momment too! But I did learn from the experience.

(UPDATED) Liberal Bloggers For Samuel Alito

About The Author

Ron Brynaert

35 Comments

Recent Posts

Recent Comments