Forbes reports on the CIA’s interrogation techniques:
The death of secret detainee Manadel al-Jamadi was ruled a homicide in a Defense Department autopsy, Time reported, adding that documents it recently obtained included photographs of his battered body, which had been kept on ice to keep it from decomposing, apparently to conceal the circumstances of his death.
The details about his death emerge as US officials continue to debate congressional legislation to ban torture of foreign detainees by US troops overseas, and efforts by the George W. Bush administration to obtain an exemption for the CIA from any future torture ban.
Jamadi was abducted by US Navy Seals on November 4, 2003, on suspicion of harbouring explosives and involvement in the bombing of a Red Cross centre in Baghdad that killed 12 people, and was placed in Abu Ghraib as an unregistered detainee.
After some 90 minutes of interrogation by CIA officials, he died of ‘blunt force injuries’ and ‘asphyxiation’, according to the autopsy documents obtained by Time.
A forensic scientist who later reviewed the autopsy report told Time that the most likely cause of Jamadi’s death was suffocation, which would have occurred when an empty sandbag was placed over his head while his arms were secured up and behind his back, in a crucifixion-like pose.
Blood was mopped up with a chlorine solution before the interrogation scene could be examined by an investigator, Time wrote, adding that after Jamadi’s death, a bloodstained hood that had covered his head had disappeared.
So, they grabbed this suspect, put him in a crucifixion pose, placed a sandbag over his head, beat him until the bag and surrounding area was bloody, and let him suffocate. That means they tied the bag tight. I want to know under what theory (assuming his death was unintentional) they thought this treatment would result in valuable intelligence?
I also want to know why:
Here is a question for the wingnuts. Since Mr. Swanner still works for the agency I have to assume his interrogation techniques are okay under the Rumsfeld/Gonzales guidelines. Keep in mind, he killed this man. That’s okay with you, right? Cheney’s torture exemption for the CIA is cool with you?
This was reported by alternative sources back at the time it happened.
What becomes of the people who do the beating and torturing?
When I lived in Germany I used to look at elderly people on the trains and wonder what they were doing during WWII.
So where do these torturers our tax dollars are supporting go when their work is done, after they retire from turning humans into a bloody pulp? And what do they have to show for their work, torturing someone until he confesses to whatever they tell him to confess to? Do they get jobs as school teachers? Are they walking the beat as cops? Do they work for political parties?
A recent Op-Ed in the NY Times said that the US military adopted the torture techniques of the Chinese Communists–our enemies. So who has the high moral ground now?
The evidence all along seemed to point in the direction of private contractors hired for their service of gathering intelligence, as one. It also was shown that their influence in the chain of command aggravated the low level instance of human rights abuses.
Where do they go? They seem to get bonuses and new contracts.
So tax dollars of middle-class Americans are given to contractors (I’m guessing they’re located hired by an arm of Halliburton)to torture people. The pay is probably pretty good. The people in charge of the torture program are probably educated people.
The Masters of Death, a historical account by Richard Rhodes, describes how the Einsatzgruppen was recruited in Nazi Germany. Word went out to military units to report people with pathological and anti-social tendencies; these were the recruits.
From a review of the book: “Rhodes documents the organizing and carrying out of this program and introduces the professional men–economists, architects, lawyers–who were the program’s commanders and officers, as well as the ‘ordinary men’ who did most of the actual killing.”
I suppose the people in authority regarding US torture practices are lawyers, at least one former senator who is now Vice President, high ranking military people, people with advanced degrees from the University of Chicago, etc. And then there are the “ordinary men” who do the grunt work–people with sociopathological tendencies who have no problem harming another human whether or not that person is guilty of any crime.
And we are paying taxes for this to happen, just as the Germans were paying taxes to support the Einsatzgruppen.
So how are we better than the Germans during WWII? Are we better because we haven’t yet killed millions?
As are most of the problems, this one is also a global problem. The security contractors have interests beyond the US and the contracts are paid by funds from citizens in several countries I would assume. We don’t always get our money’s worth either for instance, the company awarded the no-bid contract for overall security of officials/foreign officials in Iraq appear to fail with the many assasinations and kidnappings. That company is headed by Tim Spicer and is better associated with other countries than the US.
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Explosives Used in London 7/7 Bombings ‘originated in the Balkans’
“According to a confidential report produced the day after the bombing by a private London security firm, Aegis Defense Services, Ltd., which was seen and read by Pentagon officials, the team was probably four to six strong . . . The Aegis report says it is possible that the explosives were ‘constructed by an experienced bomb maker, possibly coming to the U.K. for that very purpose.'”
Aegis and its chief Tim Spicer are intimately involved with the Pentagon’s Iraq operations. Spicer is also implicated for murders in Northern Ireland in the 1990s. Aegis is also tied to the sponsoring of an aborted coup in the West African nation of Equatorial Guinea, which resulted in the arrest of Sir Mark Thatcher, son of former British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher.
Tim Spicer involved in civil wars
Sierra Leone and Papua New Guinea.
How did Aegis conclude that the foreign origin for the bomb maker, when no such evidence was available? What role does this British security firm serve in helping drive Washington-London “war on terrorism” planning, and what was this confidential report “seen and read by Pentagon officials”?
Analysis London Bombing – July 2005
[Article has been edited with additional links – Oui]
“Treason doth never prosper: what’s the reason?
For if it prosper, none dare call it treason.”
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The articles you list are part of what I’ve learned in the last few years and the coincidence in London was especially loud in the way it was handles in the press.
I found this incident some time ago and it says a lot about the company
Ironically, Dyncorp protested the award of the Iraq RSSS contract to Aegis, citing the latter's questionable business ethics. Dyncorp has been acsused of covering up incidents involving its security personnel in Kosovo and Bosnia. The incidents involved child prostitution and other criminal activity. Nevertheless, Dyncorp, which has its own knowledge about Spicer's activities around the world, is uniquely placed to question Aegis and its involvement in Iraq. In its decision to reject Dyncorp's charge that Aegis lacked integrity, the U.S. Government Accountability Office (GAO) stated, "Once we reached the conclusion that DynCorp was reasonably excluded from further consideration, the company lacked standing to challenge the integrity of the awardee, Aegis."
Pentagon's Mercenary of Choice
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It’s tactical not to go for impeachment!
The sun or stars are not in place, or what??
Fools and a disgrace for the human race.
RIGHT :: McCain: Torture Ban Protects U.S. Image
WRONG :: McCain: Bush didn’t lie about reasons to go to war in Iraq
What an hypocrisy!
Govt plans no more delay in Hicks Guantanamo trial
WASHINGTON (Reuters) – The United States plans to resume the war crimes trial of an Australian Guantanamo Bay prisoner this week without waiting for a Supreme Court ruling on the legality of these military tribunals.
“Treason doth never prosper: what’s the reason?
For if it prosper, none dare call it treason.”
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Credit where credit is due, it seems.
All this reporting on the investigation about Jamadi’s homicide and Swanner’s involvement was covered even more extensively by Jane Mayer in last week’s issue of the New Yorker: “A Deadly Interrogation”.
Another article of hers, to which I’ve been pointing people in light of today’s op-ed in the NY Times, is “The Experiment”. Both that earlier piece and the op-ed by Bloche and Marks deal with the development of the interrogation “techniques” now being employed at Guantanamo, Abu Ghraib, Bagram, and the infamous “black sites” in Thailand and Eastern Europe.
to torture but also murder with impunity.
With their tarnished history of assassination, drug running, drug dealing, illegal regime change, torture, murder etc ad infinitum isnt it time they were disbanded completely?
I am very interested in this
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