From the Economist’s survey of Canada (in the article “Living with number one“):
I wonder what happened starting in 2002?
Update [2005-12-3 12:12:21 by Jerome a Paris]: Via Migeru at ET, from the48er, this great graph:
See also this:
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a backlash over the influx of Americans who have given up on America and imigrated to Canada… eh…?
; )
Are there any statistics on that phenomenon? Is it significant in any way?
Actually,
I do recall some attempts by the Rethug echo chamber to try and blame Canada for all that 9/11 terr’st infiltration, with those lax Canadian visa requirements and wot-not…
There was a concerted effort.
The slide in favorable ratings would probably follow the spin campaign… The Bush Administration “Bull in a China Shop” approach to foreign policy would then probably put the ratings into free-fall.
The drop starting in 2002 actually makes sense.
A quick search of CBC shows a number of 2005 stories. This dispute has been going on for years but I dimly recall hearing more about it around that time.
There was yet another WTO decision in favor of Canada some time ago after which the U.S. decided to keep punishing Canada regardless.
Then there was the US’s champion anti-diplomat before being surpassed by John Bolton, ambassador to Canada Paully the-bull-in-the-China-shop Cellucci who was serving around that time.
“Paul Cellucci said “a lot of people in Washington are upset” with Canada for not backing the U.S.-led attack on Iraq. And he said Ottawa ‘could do a better job’ at controlling Liberals, like Natural Resources Minister Herb Dhaliwal, who said last week that U.S. President George Bush lacks statesmanlike qualities.”
I guess Canada’s finally getting its impudent Liberals under control now.
The Liberals have been the party of government in Canada since 1993, so it’s not a matter of keeping Liberals in check, but in keeping the mouts shut of some front bench members of the government.
And the current conventional wisdom is that the general election will return a situation pretty much similar to the one BEFORE the election. Maybe a few more New Democrats (NDPers) and Liberals and maybe a few fewer Conservatives.
Look to the current tenant in the White House. Seen as a rogue elephant, he has managed to alienate long standing allies.
My question was rhetorical, obviously, but I did note 2002 and not 2000. I think the significant factor has been the go-it-alone policies post 9/11.
A drop in 2000, followed by an uptick in 2001, then a dive off the cliff starting in 2002. My interpretation:
2000 Election controversy, Bush favoured by Supreme Court
2001 9/11 brings international sympathy, Canada and other NATO countries agree to invade Afghanistan
2002 Bush government pisses away the good will of America’s allies in a transparent bid to use the domestic trauma of 9/11 to justify invading Iraq. Demonstrations around the world from mid-2002 to February 2003.
Yeah, funny how Osama Bin Laden was better for US world standing than dubya.
A particular event–I don’t know. Sometimes in life, you it takes time to internalize huge events like the SCOTUS placement of Bush. You can’t believe what you’re seeing or experiencing can really be happening–there’s a distancing (survival) mechanism that springs into place. You go into a state of denial. I think many Americans wouldn’t allow themselves to believe that we had sitting in the Oval Office a totally unfit and unworthy individual. These sorts of things don’t happen in the US. But it did, it has.
I don’t know if there was one precipitating event which turned Candadian public opinion–perhaps a simmering recognition of the American tragedy on its border.
My 2 cents.
There’s an old saying, variously attributed to “gypsies” and others that says; “Some lies are more believable than truth”. A corrolary to that, (one every competent con man knows instinctively), is that; “The bigger the lie the better the chance of it being believed.”
The Bush regime’s propaganda department organizes much of their deception in concert with these two simple maxims. They know that it’s harder for people generally to actually believe their leaders are capable of deliberately perpetrating such atrocities and such lies, (think about pedophile priests and how hard it was for parents to admit that what their child was saying about being molested was true), and so they exploit the reluctance we have to accept the possibility that those we regard as authorities could really be that bad.
Of course that’s exactly why we’re supposed to have professional journalists who know how to bypass the tools used by swindlers and other crooks in power. Unfortunately even such real journalists as still survive have their voices silenced or muffled by employers loyal to those same circles of swindlers and other crooks.
The American people are certainly prone to denial, but we’ll apparently never know what would happen if our own responses to events were not overwhelmingly shortcircuited by universal assurances that nothing important or surprising is happening here. The US is in a situation where every single one of its fabled “checks and balances” has failed miserably.
Yes, this is why the failure of the MSM to perform it’s job of conveying truth to the public free of government restriction, (and a job for which the press received special protection in the constitution); that this media failure is quite nearly as destructive in the long un as are the actions of our criminal Bush regime government.
GWB and the cabal!
That’s when they finally cancelled The X-Files. Canadians have been pissed ever since.
Naw, we all got pissed when they let duchovny bully them into shooting in LA rather than Vancouver.
CBC News Special run a couple of years ago surveyed people around the world in different levels of economy. It was a fascinating show, and the site linked still has a lot of the survey information.
It showed that Ammericans are variously clueless to dead wrong about what we think others think about us. Even at that time there was low interest in coming to America and low interest in remaking their economies to be more like America’s.
I’ve heard conflicting reports about Americans’ flight to Canada, something we’re in the process of doing. We had been told that for our category there was up to a 4 year wait for permanent resident status, and the FBI told us they were running slow on emmigration background checks, but our Canadian consultant now says the process is speeding up. I recall Canadian friends of ours reporting there’s no great northward stampede.
runs emigration background checks!? What happens if you fail? Do they deny permission to leave the Sov—I mean United States?
you need a certificate of no criminal conviction to get INTO Canada.
Yeah, what’s with that FBI emigration check???
Think that’s weird? My son, recently adopted from China, not yet a Canadian citizen, needed an interview at the US Consulate in Toronto in order to get a US visa. This is so I, his mom and a US citizen, can take him for a day trip from Windsor to Detroit. The interview took 5 minutes, after a 2 hour wait. I can’t imagine that in a circumstance like this, a form in the mail couldn’t do the trick.
Obviously those with money (or more money than sense) feel that something wicked is still coming down the pike and they want to have every means possible to survive. Trouble is, as screwball as Bush is, killing education, killing the environment, killing any friends we might have, not worrying about ordinary things like flu, etc. NONE of those things is truly helped by gold!
AMEX: NTO
Save your retirement. Invest in NTO now.
That gold price chart is hilarious.
Except of course that it’s serious.
Gold is a comfort commodity. People buy it when they’re worried about the state of the world.
AMEX: NTO
Save your home, retirement, kid’s college fund. Buy early and often.
Glad I was able to provide some amusement … although I’m unclear about what’s so funny. Help me out with that one, okay?
In the meantime, here’s some more jollity — the entire piece from which the “hilarious” chart is taken: http://the48er.com/gold.html
Is that the neocons really came out to play.
The rest of the world saw them.
Most of America was busy watching where they were told to, and didn’t really notice the cries about not paying any attention to the man behind the screen.