What does it mean to have an American identity?
Does it have to involve an affinity for apple pie, cheesesteak, football or Jessica Simpson? What if it was flavored by tortillas, chorizo, pan dulce and fiestas, as mine is? Would it be in dispute that I am in fact claiming an American identity?
As a 7th generation Mexican-American I am bi-cultural, and I am not alone. My worldview is a mixture of influences that stretches far back into the 1800s. One of the things that pains me greatly, though, is the fact that I am not fully bilingual in English and Spanish. You see, my parents never spoke Spanish in my house because they grew up in an era when it was considered taboo.
sígame…
Mis abuelitos (grandparents) on both sides of the family told me stories of getting smacked in the head by teachers when they would speak Spanish. It was considered a hindrance to job success in American society for them to be bilingual. So in that climate of fear and hate, they didn’t pass the richness of the Spanish language to their children, my parents.
It appears we are reentering that climate in the 21st century. Meet Zach Rubio:
“It was, like, totally not in the classroom,” the high school junior said, recalling the infraction. “We were in the, like, hall or whatever, on restroom break. This kid I know, he’s like, ‘Me prestas un dolar?’ [‘Will you lend me a dollar?’] Well, he asked in Spanish; it just seemed natural to answer that way. So I’m like, ‘No problema.’ “
But that conversation turned out to be a big problem for the staff at the Endeavor Alternative School, a small public high school in an ethnically mixed blue-collar neighborhood. A teacher who overheard the two boys sent Zach to the office, where Principal Jennifer Watts ordered him to call his father and leave the school.
Watts, whom students describe as a disciplinarian, said she can’t discuss the case. But in a written “discipline referral” explaining her decision to suspend Zach for 1 1/2 days, she noted: “This is not the first time we have [asked] Zach and others to not speak Spanish at school.”
Since then, the suspension of Zach Rubio has become the talk of the town in both English and Spanish newspapers and radio shows. The school district has officially rescinded his punishment and said that speaking a foreign language is not grounds for suspension. Meanwhile, the Rubio family has retained a lawyer, who says a civil rights lawsuit may be in the offing.
(emphasis mine)
As I have mentioned before, there are storms of hatred and racism brewing in this country and my fear is that they will flood the nation based upon political calculation and divisiveness.
To the racist overlords that are trying to steal the bi-cultural identity of Americans like Zach Rubio and myself, I say toma.
[editor’s note, by Man Eegee] I changed the title to correct the spanish grammar. Thanks Meteor Blades, ironic how the mistake proved my point, eh? 🙂
For the record, Zach Rubio’s father is a legal immigrant from Veracruz, Mexico. He went through the complete process–test included–and has much more to say in the article referenced. I highly recommend it.
…that will be much on our minds next year as immigration “reform” gets tossed around. Coming from ancestors whose cultural, religion and language were ripped from them, this is a topic of grave concern.
(But one nitpick: it’s un gran problema. Typically, words that end in “ma” in Spanish are masculine, an exception to the rule.)
I knew it looked wrong and got three different answers from people when I asked at work. Gracias amigo.
The first Nationwide Latino Commisioner’s meeting was taking place?
http://www.kctv5.com/Global/story.asp?S=4226665
C’est ne pas vrai ca? Merde.
Unbelievable. Do these idiots not realize that speaking more than one language actually increases a child’s ability to learn and grow intellectually?
I only wished I had that problem growing up… not only was I mandated to take Francais in grade school but my grandunits were trying to teach me Ukrainian too… quite confusing actually when I tried to count to 10… still is… I always throw in a French 8 when counting in Ukrainian and vice versa… but regardless that’s just ridiculous. Poor kid.
Poor everybody actually. Such a waste to continue to force people to deny their heritage and the beauty of language.
I can’t explain when I’m speaking spanish that hits deeply in my soul. I feel more connected to my identity, so hearing stories like this causes an immediate need to hit a piñata.
Quoth the Spiderleaf:
“Do these idiots not realize that speaking more than one language actually increases a child’s ability to learn and grow intellectually?”
Well, yeah. That’s kind of the point. This is no longer something to be encouraged. “I don’t want educated citizens, I want oxen.”
It’s also about “Do as you’re told and don’t think for yourself.”
And it makes teachers nervous to have students who, being young Latinos, are just LOOKING for ways to cause trouble, having a way to communicate which the warden can’t understand.
A few years ago I covered the graduation of the first ESL for Adults class at a cultural arts foundation. Most of the people on the stage were Anglo “local dignitaries” — the kind of folks who fight like hell to prevent places like that from getting started and even harder to keep them from operating, but who want all the credit when they actually make it — and of course all of the audience and graduates were Latino. The keynote speaker was the local State Representative, Señor Equis, who IIRC told me once that his family is from Monterrey. He did his speech in both languages, switching back and forth as it worked best, without bothering to translate. Of course that meant that the “dignitaries” were completely lost at “Muy buenos tardes, amigos” and it went downhill from there.
They didn’t like this, of course — they’re important people, after all — so they were already sort of steamed and then the Honorable Señor Equis ended by switching back to English: “In the only country in the industrialized world where a man can speak only one language and still somehow be called ‘educated,’ you’re now better taught than all of your local leaders, most of your state officials, and about 95% of the rest of the country. (and he waves to include the other dignitaries) y tambien todos de esos pendejos…”
So you see, letting the peasants be bilingual can be dangerous. They might be able to laugh at you…
You hit the nail on the head – “We can’t have people talking in another language – they might be talking about us and we wouldn’t know what they’re saying!” What paranoia!
Principal Jennifer Watts needs a looong suspension. I hope the father sues. This is despicable – and as Spidey noted above – outright stupid.
that his son was wronged in a bad way, here’s the end of the WaPo article from the diary:
Finally; people calling it like it is: wrong.
Funny. I am the reverse case, an american family that emigrated south of the border. Do you know how many times I was told there not to speak English? NONE. On the contrary, speak as many languages as possible. Furthermore, having been raised speaking two languages from birth, makes it easy to learn other languages. I was first tought German in grade scholl (unfortunatedly it is gone ) then French in highschool (can understand just a little)for one year. Lived in Brazil for some time, and people could not identify where my slight accent was from, but they definetly thought I was from Brazil. I also taught my self to read and write.
It seems to me that by trying to prevent us to speak spanish, they are trying to take our identity away. What they fail to understand is that our culture will seek other ways to prevail
By the way about 15 years ago a professor said something about how many Latinos were entering illegal to the US, and began to complain. I told him that we were latinamericanizing the US. He suddenly turned red. And I still passed the course 🙂
…is that growing up in roughly the same part of the country as ManEegee, for my four years of French in high school, we were constantly encouraged to talk French among our friend inside, outside, anywhere at school to improve our conversational abilities.
I say, pfffth.
(course, today, speaking French on the school grounds would probably be looked upon as speaking German during world war II…)
Yuck.
I love how every language on this earth has an equivalent to ‘pfffth’, mine was toma 🙂
I didn’t speak Spanish or Spanglish at home because of the fear and hate that was going. I am pretty sure I am the only one in my generation that is able to speak Spanish in my family. I did because mis abuelitos ask me to speak to them in Spanish. So it is kind of sad at family gatherings when I am the only one of los primos hablando en Español.
I also want to point out, notice how September 16 or Cinco de Mayo was not made a big deal this year. Only happens during an off election. But I bet you anything next year, being Hispanic will be the in thing again.
I still don’t feel fully comfortable speaking it, but I am getting better. It helps to work with a building full of Xicanos, tho. The dichos I’ve learned, hehe
The holidays are a big source of strife around the workplace because we are constantly fighting the local alcohol companies from hijacking the meanings of the celebrations.
Love the sig, obviamente.
Okay — ‘nother weird one.
Growing up in a ranching family near the border, Grandparents (anglo) were bi-lingual (Spanish-English) as I think were most ranching families. Being bi-lingual was 1) a necessity in that rich culture and 2) something to be proud of.
But go into an urban center…
XP. I never noticed that about Cinco de Mayo (or twelfth night for that matter) — but looking back on 2004, was interesting how many stories I saw about both, especially 12th night.
As I have mentioned before, there are storms of hatred and racism brewing in this country and my fear is that they will flood the nation based upon political calculation and divisiveness.
From what I’ve been seeing coming out recently from the anti-immigrant wing of the GOP it’s not just a storm…but a class five hurricane.
This are just a few of the recent “headlines” in Tom Tancredos and Bay Buchanan’s “Team America PAC” Newsletter:
“Illegal aliens decapitate children”
“Illegal aliens gaining access to weapons-of-mass-destruction facility”
“Illegal immigrants bringing tuberculosis, our children at risk”
“Drug resistant tuberculosis on the rise due to “foreign born” population”
“New report shows hospitals are at risk because of Illegals”
I believe that this kind of crap is only the beginning of a long, protracted campaign to stir up racism and hatred that the right-wing is formulating in order to take the focus off their dismal leadership performance over the past five years. In the last election cycle “blame the gays” was the mantra…next time out it will be; blame the “wetbacks”…. the handwrittings on the wall for all to see. This is going to get very nasty and vile.
can bite my shiny metal ass. Bill Winter is sending Little Tommy home next November.
But the shit he spouts is gainng traction. The underlying racism that’s out there is always ripe for exploitation by the bottom feeders. In the past couple of months more and more Repugs have started to talk about “border security” as the next “big issue”.
These shits haven’t given a danm about secutity since before 9-11. The whole issue is a smokescreen for the same old race-baiting the right-wing has done for years. It’s all done in keywords and codespeeak: Border security = illegal immigrants
illegal immigrants = Mexicans
Mexicans = Hispanics
The mainstream Repugs won’t go as far as Tommy boy has in his rhetoric, but the underlying message will be the same.
Little Tommy’s latest crapulent spew is that children born in the U.S. to parents who aren’t legally in the country should denied U.S. citizenship. Fortunately, there’s a little thing called the Fourteenth Amendment standing in the way.
RH, are you?
I’m interviewing Bill Winter for ePluribus Media this week. One of my first questions will be “Tom Tancredo says America is full. What do you think?”
What makes so many Americans so pigheadedly provincial I wonder and seemingly to revel in their own stupidity.
Anyone who can learn and speak a second language should always be considered an asset-why is that so hard to comprehend?
I’d read this article this morning and based on the circumstances of what actually occurred it seems this principal is way over the top wrong. I hope she gets her ass handed to her and the family does pursue a lawsuit.
that we’re on the same side, ink. I’d hate to be on the receiving end of one of your rants 🙂
I can in no way imagine you and I having differing viewpoints on much of anything..of great importance anyway…that’s based on all your diaries/posting. I don’t know if I ever did mention it but I was surprised to find out you were relatively young in human years as to what my assumption was based on your comments.
My rant was done in the silence of my apartment actually before I posted and as usual the air was a bit blue here after reading that crap.
Estamos Loco!!!
Didn’t you also retire well after 3:00AM last night?
What’s wrong with us?
it is clearly society that must change and allow for long nights of frivolity rather than early mornings of productivity. 🙂
That was the statement a good friend made at our meetup a few months ago, and it rings very true in Colorado.
My folks urged me to take French when I was younger, probably out of some latent racism. I loved it, as well as Russian, but neither helps me today around here. My son’s taking Spanish, yes he is, and he can stop his complaining Right Now.
My brother married a wonderful woman from Mexico City, and upon doing so, her relatives who didn’t already know English began earnestly to study it. While there are obvious practical advantages, they did it so we could all talk together more easily. So we could really become family.
I signed up for a continuing learning course in Spanish starting in January. I’m just sorry I didn’t try to learn the language before my sister in law’s mom diBut I love them; they’re familyed in Leon, Mexico…just a week ago. We’re getting together with all our Mexican relatives over Christmas, but it will be sad. And we still can’t talk to each other very well.
Thanks for a great diary, Man Eegee.
this “so we could really become family”
It sounds like both sides knew that in order to fully communicate love and fellowship, they would need to learn each others mother tongue. It is a part of who we are.
Sorry to hear about the family member, ubikkibu, I hope the familia is able to celebrate her life when you gather for the holidays.
I was very touched that they undertook learning English, and there’s no reason I can’t do the same.
It’s going to be hard to be depressed when we’ve all rented a villa in Puerto Vallarta. (Much cheaper than a hotel in the end, BTW.) No one will have had much time to grieve, but I think it will be a great time for us to talk. And with lots of ninos and ninas running around, it will be hard to stay sad.
said if your children are not learning Spanish in school, you should get in touch with your school board and ask why.
He went on to point out that Spanish is now the de facto second language in the US, and the next generation will be much more employable if they speak both languages.
This of course is not the mainstream US view, which holds that English was good enough for Jesus, so it should be good enough for you.
okay stop it, that is just way too funny for me to handle today…
the [Snort] tag on that post! Hilarious. Don’t forget that English was good enough for the Native Americans too.
Sweet Jesus duct-you’re starting to early(not quite noon where I am) …can I use that as a tag line by the way…that’s too good to have it fade away..referring of course to Jesus guy and his propensity for English.
Ductape wins the “hip-deep snark 2005” award.
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Today’s Jesus speaks Spanish!
As a youngster I was taught to bow my head in reference as the name Jesus crossed my lips, so I was glad the new Mexican boy in school was named … Jesus!
“Treason doth never prosper: what’s the reason?
For if it prosper, none dare call it treason.”
▼ ▼ ▼ MY DIARY
My daughter has picked up some Spanish from her favorite morning show – “Dora the Explorer.” Also in one of the few kids meals toys that was ever worth a damn, we got some cards that teach the children proper pronunciation of various everyday objects in Spanish (I heart Sonic Drive thru). I’m sure she will become a good “America hater” just like her dad. 😉
Yes, of course, as one (very poorly educated) person told me, the Good Book was written in English, that does it for me!
The biggest problem Americans have in learning a second language is that public and most private schools have a curriculum that does not require or even offer foreign language study until about age 13 or 14. Classes should really begin at least 5 years earlier if the goal is to lead to bilingualism.
Personally, I didn’t enjoy language study until I was an adult. I took Latin and Spanish in high school. Latin wasn’t conversationally spoken in class and I had no great love for learning Spanish at the time although it was much easier in comparison to Latin. Students should learn the language that most interests them. It really does no good to force a child to study Spanish just because it’s supposed to be a language that good for jobs, ‘to be progressive,’ etc. If you don’t want to study a subject, you won’t learn it well.
I studied French and Portuguese since then and love both those languages. I found it much easier to learn a language through conversation in an immersion environment rather than studying in a class. The advantage is that conversation is much more natural with a far better accent, though a disadvantage is I’m still self-conscious that I speak and understand French much better than I read or write. Learning Portuguese has even brought a new interest in speaking Spanish as I can now understand Spanish much better when I hear it, and my ‘Portunol’ allows me to communicate better with Spanish-speakers.
We’ve got to have the only culture that revels in our collective ignorance. Geography? “Hell no, we ain’t goin’ nowhere no way.” Science? “Big old hand o’ God what done it.” History” “We’ll all be dead then.” Now language?
I understand that politicians want to ride this issue back into office. I just don’t understand why schools of all places would willfully promote ignorance. I don’t understand why the Democratic party can’t get their hands around diversity, and why they spout the same racist shit using prettier words.
Good for the Rubio family for standing up.
run away from the word “racist” faster than Dems run from the label “anti-military”. It’s time to call them out for their racism and use examples. Jon Kyl and John Cornyn’s Immigration Bill is Exhibit A.
To those school authorities:
váyanse al carajo!
using that at the end, but decided on my favorite word that gets regular usage.
I love how you can’t say them without making hand gestures 🙂
I live in New Mexico (What a surprise! Huh?)
Here I would think most people, except for the recent infestation of goddamnanglosfromtexass, are bilingual. English is either the first or second language followed by New Mexican (a combination of Spanish + Mexican + Pueblo and a wee tad of Na Dineh), Pueblo, Na Dineh (Navaho, Apache), ASL, and then Cantonese, German (lots of German spoken in Alamagordo), and yadda-yadda-yadda.
It’s not uncommon to hear New Mexican in public places or even overhear a conversation switching back and forth between New Mexican and English and then back to New Mexican. The only people who get their knickers in a twist are the goddamnanglosfromtexass and some public school officals who have their heads stuck up their bums.
I haven’t heard of anyone getting sent home from school because they spoke New Mexican and I would be astonished if a school official would be that suicidial.
(Note: not all people from or living in Texas are goddamnanglosfromtexass! But that’s another post.)
Sorry you guys are getting stuck with the GAFT’s. It’s been a long hard row getting the bastards out of here, and I had hoped we were getting them pissed enough that they wouldn’t stop until they were halfway to Japan where, like Wiley, they’d realize they were no longer on land and sink…
I guess it’ll have to happen the hard way. Give `em another shove and a little bit of clockwise English and you should be able to get them to Salt Lake City. I’m sure they’ll be much happier there.
That is one thing about New Mexico, it’s sort like on the bubble when it comes down to Hispanic issues. We know it is part of the Southwest, but it is often over looked. It’s sort like El Paso over here in Texas. We know it is there, but it is easy to forget to be included among the cities with the largest Hispanic population or as a border town.
I wonder why it is?
Pfft. What the hell was that principal thinking? My boys have had Spanish in our local public school every year since first grade. The teachers there would LOVE to hear them speak it outside of Spanish class.
I’m guessing that after O’Reilly’s Jihad to save Xmas is finished, a new Jihad will be waged against America hating Spanish teachers.
Haven’t we seen this movie before? This reminds me of nothing so much as the schools where Native American children were kidnapped and held hostage until they paid the ransom by giving up their languages and heritage. Hey, I guess this is progress. . .at least this time they didn’t beat the kid, and they let him go home. (snark)
the father recognizes the richness that his son has by being bilingual and is apparently going to fight so others have the opportunity. In the past, it was more likely that the family would back down and make sure the boy was pacified.
We have seen this movie before, kansas. I think you can find it in the horror section 🙂
I can’t even imagine what sort of atmosphere this principal is trying to promote here… suspending children for speaking a different language? Good grief. Or rather, I can imagine, I’d just rather not. Tired of all the hate.
When my siblings and I were young we grew up speaking Spanish and English all as one, didn’t really know the difference, as the neighbor who watched us spoke Spanish, only, to us and her own kids.
While I, sadly, have lost mine (I can understand way more Spanish than I can speak), my brother went on to become fluent (in both languages)… and in his work as a diagnostician was able to pretty much write his own ticket… his choice of hospitals, higher salary and so on.
A friend of mine has an old ‘safety rules’ type sign, originally posted outside a mine in 1918 or so… written in 8 different languages. Probably back then there were the forebears of the racist nativists of today, screeching about the equivalent of the ‘balkinization of america!” over stuff like that too.
…laying aside my carefully prepared snark after reading DTF’s comments
Some things in life are without comparison.
As for the issue at hand, it’s been covered well and I just wanted to add my outrage and support.
I really did. During my high school years (2000-04), I took three years of the language. However, I have only retained a few phrases.
Clearly that principal does not understand the value of people who are bilingual. A second language, besides being useful for communication, far expands career potential for someone. That kid is already at an advantage in society.
Muy loco.
(Oh, and the words/phrases I’ve retained are, excluding the one above, “Hola” “Gracias”, “Queso”, and “Hay moscas en mi sopa”. Pretty pathetic.)
con las moscas en su sopita. 🙂
I recommend some of the learn-while-driving cd’s, there are some good ones out there if you want to brush up alittle bit.
As the case may be, learn-while-blogging. 🙂
In seriousness, I do have one Spanish learning CD at home and about three Spanish-English dictionaries which I’ve used in the past. So if I ever decide to outbest George Bush for the title of “dumbest wannabe Spanish speaker”, I’ll be ready. 😉
When I chose Spanish to learn as my fourth language in school we had the misfortune of getting a teacher that wasn’t very inspiring. As a result, the one thing I remember most vividly from that spanish class is the phrase “El perro està bacho la mesa!”
Concerning languages I’m a lucky guy in as much I was born by danish parents living in Sweden so I’ve got both danish and swedish naturally. Having two languages and knowing the contrast between them (now danish and swedish is lexically much alike but phonetically there’s an ocean between them while they’re also in places semantically ambiguos!) I’m sure have spurred the interest I have in languages.
Ah, niente…
Oh Manny – first I think, “huh?”
Then I think, “That is so ridiculous, surely it can’t be for real!”
But it is.
I want to go live with the Muppets.
Sesame Street was a big deal in my life, too. I remember seeing Linda Ronstadt sing La Charreada with some of the muppet characters. We were living in Oklahoma at the time and to hear the mariachi music on PBS was great.
Sesame Street – a model for how life might be lived.
I have some of the muppet videos – they are really treasures for me.
We watch, “The Muppet Family Christmas” every year. “Scrooge” is pretty good (with Michael Caine).
And we have some others. “I can’t get no co-o-per-a-tion, though I try and I try…” Hard to beat a variation on the Rolling Stones!
Thinking of Sesame Street and so many beloved characters, (sigh), my role model for what I think the world could be like – why, one of those “vision” things!
Spanish on Sesame Street – no problema! “Espanol es bellisimo!”
was when the grandfather of one of my bright first graders came to school. He was returning a book I had given his daughter. She spoke only Spanish at home, and I enjoyed speaking just a bit of her first language with her at school. I’d found one of her favorite books, written in Spanish, at a used book store, and I gave it to her.
Her dad admonished me, saying that he wanted her to learn to read and write English, not Spanish, so she would be a “good American.” My arguments about how wonderful it would be that she would know and use two languages fluently went nowhere.
“No. ¡Inglés solamente!”
reminds me of the movie Stand and Deliver with Edward James Olmos. So much potential for greatness that can easily be stifled by families who only feel they are pretecting their child.
I suspect that if you ever had the chance to talk to that grandfather, he would tell you similar stories as my grandparents and the shame they felt after being ridiculed and beat for speaking spanish.
You are right, Manny.
I did talk to him, and he told me he did not want her to hear the palabrotas* he had heard when he tried to go to school as a boy, traveling north with his family, following the harvest.”La escuela es para estudiar ingles.” And finally, “Other teachers, no chicana, will beat her if she speaks Español.
*bad words
There are times I think this whole “let ’em speak English if they want to live here…” crap comes from a deeply-rooted insecurity … the whole idea that if there’s a group of people over there in the corner laughing and talking in a language We “Real Americans” don’t understand, they MUST be laughing and talking about US. And the only way to deal with that is to force them to speak English so we can understand when this happens and take appropriate actions (ie, beat the snot out of them for disrespect). It’s okay for us types to make fun of THEM but the reverse is an affront to our fragile manhood, so… </snark>
In this country, we treat foreign languages as if they’re something only kids going to college need — and only kids going to college are smart enough to handle. And all they need to be able to do is read “literature” and write papers and understand a menu. Actual conversational or written fluency? Only for the handful of kids who make it the primary focus of their education, ie, major in it. The idea of fluency in any second language being valuable in and of itself appears to be (pardon the pun) a wholly foreign concept.
Maybe that’s why bi-lingual kids are so scary… they make the English-only kids and their parents feel stupid?
It’s enough to make me go back and take remedial Spanish … so I can go join that conversation in the corner, where folks are obviously having more fun.
I remember when Hispanic Magazine came out, I must have collected every single issue and that is because it was the first to acknowledged the existence of U.S.-born Hispanics and the first national magazines to provide us with stories that were somewhat relevant to us.
They never had to depend on the Hispanic Chamber of Commerce. But Magazine has become too mainstream throughout its 18-year history.
The reason I bring this up, this is very similar to the current trends. As Hispanic Magazine was becoming popular many Latin@s, Hispanics, Xican@s were proud and had role models to look too.
And just as you are saying talking in Spanish is bad, Hispanic Magazine and its subsidaries have decided to outsource their editorial content. What kind of message does this give to our Raza. I’ll tell ya, nosotros no vale para nada. We can’t write about our culture or manage ourselves.
Marisa Treviño from Latina Lista did a great post about it’s new direction and who controls it.
Like I said above, which she also thinks the same way, being Hispanic WAS the in thing.