Both the CBC and CTV are reporting that Washington is furious over comments made by PM Martin at the UN climate conference in Montreal this week. (Washington furious over Martin’s climate change comments, U.S. summons McKenna over Martin remarks)
Jim Connaughton, chairman of the Council on Environmental Quality, has told Canadian Ambassador Frank McKenna that Martin’s comments are the worst slight against President George W. Bush since Germany’s Gerhard Schroeder suggested Bush’s stance against the Kyoto Protocol was responsible for hurricane Katrina. (link) (emphasis mine)
(More after the fold)
What did he say that has so angered Washington?
“To the reticent nations, including the United States, I say there is such a thing as a global conscience, and now is the time to listen to it,” Martin told the United Nations conference on climate change in Montreal Wednesday. (link)
It is very clear to all those involved in the conference, that the US is adamantly opposed to Kyoto, or any processes to continue discussion around it.
On the final day of the November 28-December 9 U.N. conference on climate change, environmentalists said they were losing hope that the United States — the largest producer of heat-trapping greenhouse gases — would sign a separate agreement for all nations, not just Kyoto members.
Although the United States is not one of the 157 countries that have subscribed to Kyoto, Canada wants a deal on open-ended talks among all countries about long-term cooperation on climate change.
Delegates said U.S. climate negotiator Harlan Watson walked out of a session of talks overnight, saying host Canada’s proposal for dialogue on long-term actions was tantamount to entering negotiations. (link)
In all fairness (and b/c I’m a FenceSitter), Martin has been called out for the Canadian government’s lack of action and negative results on Kyoto specific metrics, like green house gas emissions. (Kyoto speech exposes Prime Minister’s hypocrisy.)
Embassy spokesmen and State Department officials give conflicting answers regarding who summoned who, to meet about what, describing the meeting as a regularly scheduled meeting that was “cordial” (Cdn Embassy), versus a furious Bush administration official demanding a meeting to make very clear his unhappiness (US State Dept), but it is very clear that Cdn-US relations are not what they once were and do not look like they’re improving.
Update [2005-12-9 16:23:15 by olivia]:
I’ve added a few links below in the comments section as posts, that point to Cheney’s involvement, but this article seems to sum up the situation, plus gives Martin’s response to his original comments, so I’m adding this as an update to the diary.
The Bush administration has told Canada it was angry with the direct criticism Prime Minister Paul Martin made of the U.S. position on climate change, CBC television reported on Friday.
It said Vice-President Dick Cheney asked for the message to be delivered on Thursday to Canada’s ambassador to the United States, Frank McKenna, after Martin suggested Washington should listen to global conscience on climate change.
Canadian embassy spokesman Bernie Etzinger confirmed to Reuters that McKenna did ask for and receive a meeting with Jim Connaughton, head of the White House’s Council on Environmental Quality. Etzinger declined to confirm if any displeasure was voiced.
The particular comments at issue were those Martin — in the middle an election campaign — made during a news conference in Montreal on Wednesday after addressing a U.N. climate change meeting.
“To the reticent nations, including the United States, I’d say this: there is such a thing as a global conscience, and now is the time to listen to it. Now is the time to join with others in our global community,” Martin said.
At a news conference on Friday Martin declined to comment about the McKenna meeting, but was unapologetic for his remarks about climate change.
“I spoke what I believe. I spoke what I have been saying for quite some time now. I conveyed this message to the president of the United States … (and to) every world leader I have met with.” (link)
Update [2005-12-10 14:27:19 by olivia]:
As a last update to this story, the US has changed its stance and will now participate in informal discussions with other nations on global climate change initiatives.
The United States remained almost alone outside the new Kyoto deal, but agreed to informal talks under the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCC). The U.S. would only agree to informal talks that will not “open to any discussion leading to new commitments.” (link)
a standing ovation???
I find the US Government’s stand on environmental issues, and especially global warming, to be reprehensible. And as a Christian, I find it to be unChristian as well; if Bush and his friends truly believe that Christ is returning soon, I would think the last thing they would want would be for Him to see how they and their corporate donors have trashed God’s creation.
Me too, what Cali said!
This is the opportunity I have been waiting for. SpiderLeaf has provided the inspiration for this.
This is the moment for Canada to declare war on the United States and defeat the US making us their largest province.
I for one I am ready to betray my country and join the Canadian invaders. I will pass on valuable strategic information on the movements of our armed forces to the Canadians Hockey Stars and Bear trappers who can easily out skate, manuever and out wit the puny, dimwitted American forces without a shot being fired.
I of course would like to be rewarded for my efforts. Perhaps Viceroy of the Midwest or something.
Great, now I can expect John Bolton to start chasing me down the hall with a stapler or something… π
Yes, but under our new Canadian overseers, that’s all he will be allowed to do. And there will be no staples in his stapler.
staples. We have a foot long stapler at work!
Of course. Did a little more digging around, and found this:
U.S. angered by Martin’s climate comments:
And then this is how it finishes:
Wow!
Playing Russian roulette with the world:
They will have to rewrite Dante’s inferno to up with an appropriate circle of hell for Dick Cheney.
AAAAaaaargh!
Must.calm.down.
Breath – deeply.
Yes.
More high blood pressure medicine please.
Maybe I should go check in with the nice people on the jazz thread before I have a f$%^ing stroke!
And you have to see the photo they’ve selected for this article, Bush ‘isolated in US’ on climate:
That’s some interesting language being used by the US’ number one ally.
Here is the frame for Democrats: Bush is weak. He can’t even stand up to his own deputy.
Dang it all!
I won’t be able to sing “Blame Canada!” anymore!
… b/c we luuvvv you!
If you really luvved us, you would take Bush and Cheney through rendition for us.
Great finds you found.
<Notice me handily avoiding addressing your first query ;)>
That means we’re stuck with Pete & Re-pete for the duration, huh?
Y’all have any oil of any significance we could lure ’em up there with?
we have a ton out in Alberta… but we’re startin’ to think that might just give us some leverage on the international stage… Hugo Chavez has been an inspiration on this one… π
Just Do It!
Please.
Now.
Cheney had been scheduled to visit the tar-sands to talk about developing them. But the visit was abruptly canceled because of some emergency. I think bush fell off his trike?
I think that happened around the time they chased Condi out of Canada with “real” questions from reporters.
Someone must remember reading about Cheney’s planned visit getting cancelled? I have forgotten all of the real details.
You’re right CMan… I had forgotten about that. Did a quick google though. From Sunday, September 4, 2005: Cheney postpones visit to Canada.
Rice’s visit was October 25.
Hurrican Katrina would explain Cheney’s cancelation of the trip:
Followed by this announcement:
So close to being tricked into a Canadian rendition trap… But alas, Cheney is still here. π lol
WOW! I love you Olivia!…and Spidey too!
It’s going to be interesting to find out what the Big Dog has to say.
BushCo™ are finally beginning to reap what they’ve sown. It’s very likely to take this kind of rhetoric from many more nations around the world to have any impact on the sheeple, but it certainly is a positive step. Kudos to you fine people up north…got room for one more?
Peace
If more countries speak out, will the US become more insular. ask has an interesting diary on that, US – a Rogue Nation?.
I’m sure there are many people in the US that don’t need any help in hating Canada, just like there are many here that will be put off by Martin’s comments.
At this point, I’m not sure what it means — but I do find it worrisome.
(And speaking for spidey, we love you too!)
I recommended when you first posted, but only came back to read comments now. Thanks for the link – there certainly is commonalities to the stories.
The same international discontent was also evident when Rice and Merkel met – as diaried by saturday at European Tribune (can’t recall if the story was posted here).
If they’re mad at the Canadian ambassador, they must be apoplectic over Clinton:
Stole the show, he did. Go, big dog!
Lots of talk about him the last few days. And also on the news programs tonight.
Susan put up a diary on that too, Clinton Ticks Off Bush’s So-Called Climate Team.
I read this snippet earlier when I was ‘digging’:
I wouldn’t be surprised to see the White House try and use the Canadian’s remarks (Martin) to try and divert from the American’s remarks (Clinton) on this matter in the MSM…
Can’t have the news thinking this is an American grassroots thing, eh?
So how long before Bu$hCo declares Jihad against the Great Satan to our north?
of the decendents of Louis Riel
I had considered that. But then, this administration doesn’t really seem to notice Canada, so maybe we’ll be safe after all.
While the ozone layer was depleting,
the world was also overheating.
From Kyoto limits we’ve been cheating,
now large glaciers are retreating.
While reality he’s been denying,
Big oil’s demands Bush is satisfying.
Now Canada’s protest is arising,
why does Bushco. find that so surprising?
good-oh! May his anger strike him deeply to the bottom of his mechanical heart.
Cheney is relic from the age of oil, as we enter the age of alternative fuels.
Cheney “deeply angered?” Then something must be going right in the world. π
He’s not so much a relic from the age of oil as he is a relic from the age of despotism and absolute monarchy.
Heck, he’s getting so out of touch with humanity that even the energy companies (or the more forward thinking ones) are going to drop him.
Oh, please – from your mouth to God’s ear!
Fortunately, state governors are breaking ranks and taking the lead. (Republican and Democrat) My earlier diary:
http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2005/11/14/165819/59
Thanks. Recommended.
It’s really amazing how freaking thin skinned this whole administration is(then bullies usually are aren’t they)..they can dish it out and tell other countries what they should do but the mildest of statements seems to send them into an apoplexy of anger. Like they still think we’re a world leader or something..can’t be a world leader when no one is agreeing with us on anything.
And I’d almost forgotten about Condi getting snippy and taking off in a huff also. I think they need to look up the definition of diplomacy in the dictionary-course that would involve some reading wouldn’t it.
Every day a new embarrassment it seems.
Condi gets asked a real question:
And then there were the reports of her packing up and leaving in a hurry (earlier than originally planned, I believe?) in the Canadian news. But ignored in the US SCLM.
This was the trip had been “postponed” shortly after Canada announced their refusal to participate in bushies “missile shield”. A program that, so far, has proven to be a complete failure and a money pit for the USA.
thing. If they think you suck, or you’re stupid, or you’re a blood lust war monger, or you have designs on a dictatorship, or the only safe place to keep you is behind bars, the free world has shown they can and will just fire your leaderass. If only it were so easy now for the fifty states!