There are a lot of men out there who really hate women. I mean really, really hate them – want them suffering and/or dead hate them As with a certain class of racist, they prefer to blame every woman for any slight – real or imagined – done to them throughout the entirety of their lives. I have been appalled lately by the tone and tenor of rhetoric flying around especially as regards the subject of rape.
I posted on this issue – here, and at a variety of other web sites, most of whom were either discussing the Oregon Case, or the anniversary of the Canadian Massacre. You would think that, universally, rape would be considered wrong – along with all violence against women. Well – evidently that’s not the case. Many men went beyond mere paternalistic chiding that we woman were too `fixated’ on the subject; I read posts overflowing with name-calling, venom spewing gender specific hatred; some of the comments tipping the scale so far into the red, alarms went off.
Why? Why do you feel this way? It is perhaps simplistic to assume the men who made those comments are or were rapists and molesters themselves; perhaps they do indeed enjoy inflicting pain on the helpless – the elderly, children, animals. I don’t know. The only yardstick I have for men like these are those who perpetrated acts of violence towards me; and the single common factor there was cowardice. The need to molest a child, a young girl – they were not the sort to take on an adult woman out of fear she’d have the strength to repel them. So what is it motivates these computer nihilists – flinging their offal like so many monkeys – hoping the stink will somehow injure those in its path?
Here is what I am talking about. The person being ridiculed is me. The reference is regarding the possible rape of a 17 year old girl. I was commenting on an article by James Joyner in Outside the Beltway. The poster left his name, Steven, but of course no trackback information. What he put in italics are snippets of my original response to Mr. Joyner. I am leaving in the grammatical errors and misspelling that seems to characterize all missive of this sort in place.
Let’s break this down a bit shall we?
“My only response to your lauding of what you call a more even approach is this: you obviously have very little empathy for women “
I must have missed you at the “Not In Our Name” anti-rad-fem rally where you decried false accusations that imprison men, subject THEM to rape, and destroy who sections of their lives.
Just because a person says a system must have balance and not cater to ONE gender does not mean the person is without empathy.
But, this is a typical rad-feminist response: put the person asking for balance and fairness on the defensive.
Sorry, didn’t you get the memo? The P.C. 90’s are over and the USA is more sophisticated as to rape.
She continues in her one sided argument:
” you automatically do what you chide Shakes Sis and Arthur Silber for; concluding the rape was bogus, because the justice system said so.”
Ahhh, and when a man is pronounced guilty you are the FIRST one to stand up and say: “just because he was pronounced guilty doesn’t mean he did it … there is a lot of questions to this case” – right?
She seems to conveniently forget women who molest boys in this part:
” You also seem to indicate the girl (girl not woman. No matter how much a certain class of men would like it to be 17 is still a child) would only get a slap on the wrist, so who cares right?”
You mean how Mary Kay LeTourneau was only sent away for SEVEN years after repeatedly sleeping with her 12 year old student?
Or how Debra LaFave was given NO jail time.
Plz DO post links to where you were up in arms about this ….
Showing your blatant sexism is EASY when you wear it on your sleeve.
She continues to make excuses and ignoring the double standards:
“Well, unlike you, I actually did a little research before stating my opinion. The facts of the case are in dispute the childs mother may have had some complicity, and the adult men involved could have been charged with statutory rape, as that is current Oregon law. But they werent only the girl (now 19) paid any price at all. Well I guess that’s OK by you; after all, its not like it was anyone you gave a damn about (assuming there are females you give a damn about). I noted many responses just like yours men getting up on their moral high horse decrying what we pesky feminists considered an egregious miscarriage of justice.”
Feminists consider justice to be giving one standard for men and another for women. It’s no different than “white justice” for blacks back in the day.
You decide guilt, innocence, mitigation of circumstances or lack thereof purely based on genetics. How does that robe and hood fit by the way?
The “men cannot understand” cannard:
” Ah well its not like you will ever have to suffer through the mind-numbing violence of rape; unless of course, through some egregious miscarriage of justice you end up in jail with the wrong cell-mate. But then only true criminals ever get convicted of crimes right? I mean, its not like the justice system is ever wrong?”
The Prison Rape Reform Act of 2003 was enacted due to 10% of all prisoners being raped REPEATEDLY. Consider: there are 2.5-2.7 MILLION men in prison. That’s 250K-270K men raped REPEATEDLY – and the feminists are doing … WHAT exactly to spread the word and stop it?
And as far as the justice system being wrong .. how about men spending 5, 10, 15, or 20 years in prison for rapes they didn’t comnmit – being later freed by DNA.
Do the feminists think that the women who have done this should go to jail for the SAME AMOUNT OF TIME!?
Not one of those women who put men in jail is serving a DAY … never mind that we need a National False Accuser Data Base to track these predators.
The P.C. 90’s are over cupcake. Women will start going to JAIL for false accusations. No longer can your shrill cries that espouse one sided sexism be taken at face vaule.
And stomping your dainty little foot no longer works.
Whew!!! Sorry to inflict that endless, rambling diatribe on you, but I think it needed to be seen in its entirety, as it illustrates my point to a `T’. This man is practically foaming at the mouth in his need to attack and belittle me, and every other woman within reach of his limited vocabulary. He HATES – virulently. He refers to women as predators, and seems to assert they all belong in jail or worse by virtue of gender alone; much like the hardened racist, who hates the skin tone without concern for the person in it. How sad.
Want to see another? This verbal diarrhea was attached to an article Shakespeare’s Sister did regarding rape and violence. The man called himself `A Raped Father’, and his overweening hatred for women almost swamps his keyboard. Some of his harangue was directed toward me – though most was intended for Shakes Sis. Either way, its enough to really make you wonder just who’s out there. Again I have left the excerpt intact.
The reality is that at a MINIMUM 45 to 50% of all rape allegations filed by women are false. And transversly, as all of our laws are gender neutral, how many women have ever been charged with raping juvenile boys??? Instead boys as young as 12 are paying CHILD SUPPORT for a child that was the result of a crime. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH !!! All of you guys defending this TROLLUP take off your aprons and skirts. Be a MAN !!!!!!!!!!!!
He followed that with:
It’s alot to risk?? There are far more ” SHAM ” Domestic Violence and Rape cases then there are actual assaults. Women are also more likely to use violence against a partner and also more likely to be believed in court, especially when backed up by the FEMALE LINEBACKERS from the local women’s shelter. It is a very profitable industry, these FALSE ACCUSATIONS.
I did not address him directly – only abjuring the other posters not to feed the trolls. This was his response. Way over the top and out in left field:
I bet fat lady sings for more welfare handouts and child support money, Oh hold it that is automatic even though she dosen’t allow DAD parenting time and fully has the children alienated and abused.
??????? And there you have it, I’m afraid. I won’t inflict any more examples on you – suffice it to say the Canadian responses to women bloggers memorializing the Montreal Massacre were treated to more of the same. So I want to know why it is some of you hate us so damn much? Is your loathing so great you’d prefer you had never been born? For that’s the only alternative available to you were we all to be eradicated. Or is it that you really hate humanity as a whole? I am asking these questions because I just don’t get it. I have never understood the lure of violence in the first place – I guess I just don’t hate anyone sufficiently enough. So – answer my question. Why do so many men hate women?
