9/11 changed everything.
Yes, you. Those people standing with you, too. This wiretap business isn’t anything new. Were you talking about it in 2002 CBS News | Feds Get Wide Wiretap Authority | November 18, 2002 13 …? Maybe you were one of the ones like me who did but couldn’t get enough people to listen.
9/11 changed everything.
Wiretapping and surveillance have been with us for a while now, but not under the sole discretion of one person’s decision.
9/11 changed everything.
There’s a double standard in effect where the opposition can accuse the Democrats of giving the President approval to invade Iraq and forget the ‘if necessary’ part that brings responsibility to the President. Now, the responsibility of protecting the citizens is used to justify the possibility of illegal domestic surveillance.
9/11 changed everything.
We have new departments of Security for the Homeland, detention camps and neverending watchlists. Secret courts, secret warrants, indefinite detention and coerced confessions.
9/11 changed everything.
It all crept in slowly as one restriction at a time to makes us safer from this infinite threat. As a majority in society unquestioningly gave up freedom for all to place full trust in the office of one person.
We went to war based on the decisions of a few because too few spoke out with questions.
We trusted the government.
9/11 changed everything.
I challenge you to give me examples of what current liberty threatening issue we have today that we would still face had 9/11 not happened.
or…
Cite the proven, credible evidence that 9/11 happened as the official story would have us believe. Every issue we have to face today is a direct result of that day and no accountability has ever been required.
9/11 changed everything.
I think we’ve been duped into believing the perception management of a new reality that doesn’t really exist, or didn’t until we allowed them to create it.
we could have prevented 9/11. With wiretapping.
WASHINGTON (AFX) – Vice President Richard Cheney said the September 11 attacks on the United States could have been averted, if the government had the power to monitor electronic communications inside the country.
‘It’s the kind of capability if we’d had before 9/11 might have led us to be able to prevent 9/11,’ Cheney said in an interview with ABC’s ‘Nightline’ program.
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What’s wrong with this? Let me count the ways…
We had plenty of prior warnings but they either were not followed or were purposely ignored.
‘It’s the kind of capability if we’d had before 9/11 might have led us to be able to prevent 9/11,’ Cheney said in an interview with ABC’s ‘Nightline’ program.
I can’t believe they have the audacity to make those claims.
That’s how stupid they think we are.
Old Dick’s revising history again. Since his bold lies are easy to disprove, this gives us an opportunity to open back up the 9/11 discussion. Too many people don’t know any of the history. Those who ignore the past…
Absolutely.
I can understand the hesitance to avoid the painfull probing of the event in the first year. I even kept my mouth shut, sort of.
There’s an odd distinction too between the families of the passengers and the families of all other victims. The passengers family either will not comment or agree unquestioningly. The others have been demanding answers and the country’s people, we-us-all have let them down.
Could it be that a plane crash, even an intentional one, is easier to accept than all of the stuff that went on at the towers?
I’m suprised given all of the FAA warning information and the 12 different “planes as weapons” plots and the destruction of the control tower interviews, that no one – airline employees’ or passengers’ families want answers. Maybe the airlines did do a super-secret sealed settlement after all?
Could it be that a plane crash, even an intentional one, is easier to accept than all of the stuff that went on at the towers?
Sure, it is very well possible. There are also plenty of other anomalies in the evidence of the passenger lists. There are no hijacker names, names appear on some lists of the same flight but not others, are misspelled or configured in ways that go beyond typos. The accounts and lists came from media and none was ever released as an official list from the govt (or airlines, I think). The numbers of passengers referred to doesn’t total the number on the lists.
The percentages of flight full capacity range from 18% – 42% on the 4 flights.
Some of the hijackers have since been reported to be alive and well.
Below are a few links to another family issue or two. I added the passenger text here from memory as I was getting ready to submit. I can get links for all of that if anyone is interested.
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NSA assets were spent on industrial espionage, not on terror risks during the nineties. We’re a nation running corporate business, not concerned with damage control or collateral damage.
We just spread the Wings of the Eagle for some Lebensraum in the ME near recognizable landmarks.
So What’s New? – Electronic Spies
In 1946, Soviet school children presented a two foot wooden replica of the Great Seal of the United States to Ambassador Averell Harriman.
“Treason doth never prosper: what’s the reason?
For if it prosper, none dare call it treason.”
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But in fact, the NSA had been monitoring private domestic telephone conversations on a much larger scale throughout the 1990s – all of it done without a court order, let alone a catalyst like the 9/11 attacks.
In February 2000, for instance, CBS “60 Minutes” correspondent Steve Kroft introduced a report on the Clinton-era spy program by noting:
“If you made a phone call today or sent an e-mail to a friend, there’s a good chance what you said or wrote was captured and screened by the country’s largest intelligence agency. The top-secret Global Surveillance Network is called Echelon, and it’s run by the National Security Agency.” NSA computers, said Kroft, “capture virtually every electronic conversation around the world.”
Echelon expert Mike Frost, who spent 20 years as a spy for the Canadian equivalent of the National Security Agency, told “60 Minutes” that the agency was monitoring “everything from data transfers to cell phones to portable phones to baby monitors to ATMs.” NSA agency operators “can listen in to just about anything” – while Echelon computers screen phone calls for key words that might indicate a terrorist threat.
The “60 Minutes” report also spotlighted Echelon critic, Rep. Bob Barr, who complained that the project as it was being implemented under Clinton “engages in the interception of literally millions of communications involving United States citizens.”
“Treason doth never prosper: what’s the reason?
For if it prosper, none dare call it treason.”
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