Ok.. so the 2nd half of that title is more a prediction right now then actual fact, but I wont be surprised if that happens.
In a move sure to renew pronouncements from the American Religious Right that Canada is the modern-day Sodom and Gomorrah of the world, the Canadian Supreme Court ruled 7-2 today that group sex among consenting adults is legal.
Some more details about the background behind the ruling:
In a ruling that changes the way Canadian courts determine what poses a threat to the population, the top court threw out the conviction of a Montreal man who ran a club where members could have group sex in a private room behind locked doors. “Consensual conduct behind code-locked doors can hardly be supposed to jeopardize a society as vigorous and tolerant as Canadian society,” said the opinion of the seven-to-two majority, written by Chief Justice Beverley McLachlin.
The decision does not affect laws against prostitution because no money changed hands among the adults having sex
Of course.. our social conservatives immediately jumped on this as the start of a lax in morality and hinting that this was the work of “activist judges” – obviously using talking points of their southern cousins:
“The court is essentially saying that fairly public sexual acts can be tolerated in commercial establishments,” said Janet Epp Buckingham of the Evangelical Fellowship of Canada.”We found it a disappointing judgment… You wonder if the court is an appropriate place for these kinds of decisions to be taking place because they don’t have broad public hearings with a lot of public input,”
The court seems to have anticipated this however, by stating that public opiunion should not effect the rule of law:
The judges said that just because most Canadians might disapprove of swingers’ clubs, this did not necessarily mean the establishments were socially dangerous.
“The causal link between images of sexuality and anti-social behavior cannot be assumed. Attitudes in themselves are not crimes, however deviant they may be or disgusting they may appear,” the judges said, noting no one had been pressured to have sex or had paid for sex in the cases before the court.
“The autonomy and liberty of members of the public was not affected by unwanted confrontation with the sexual activity in question,” they said.
Wow.. liberal judges or libertarian judges?
Anyhow, I certainly expect Ralph Reed and James Dobson and others of the US religious right to make more forays into Canadian public affairs by condemning this and repeating their calls for the Conservative Party of Canada to be elected to prevent the disintegration of Canadian society and the threat of such “deviant ideas” spilling south.
I expect Dobson, Ralph Reed, Rish Limbaugh et al acting rabid when they find out about this ruling.
… us being “retarded”.
I think it’s a major case of jealousy. π
Of course I’m jealous. Look at the type of headline we get down here…
Bill Would Allow Arrests For No Reason In Public Place
This bill is long overdue. Neither Wackenhut or CCA can hope to achieve their 5 year goals unless all states enact such legislation immediately.
Quotas, quotas, quotas.
…BushCo-Dedicated to putting the whack back in Whackenhut.
I thought we were against quotas.
We are against quotas. I should have ended the line with
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No worries.
I forgot to add…
/snark.
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I know these folks will go nuts. I just can’t seem to get up…much outrage. ;<)
Seriously guys… What the hell is going on? This is really scary stuff here…
Yeah, you know, we really can’t make this stuff up.
I always wondered what would happen as the coverup started to crack in so many places. Cracking down on freedom is one way to try, I guess. It won’t work but it sure looks bad, eh?
π
…I’m not sure anymore what will or will not work. So many times I thought, this is it… they’ve pushed too far, over the line, etc., but it never is. The stories we hear keep getting worse — as if that’s even fathomable that it’s worse than what we already know.
exactly as it’s been for me the last couple of years. I maintained that daily whaaaa…?? as each sunrise brought fresh disbelief at their audacity. That was slowly replaced by a chronic rise and fall of expectations that would result in anti-climatic disillusionment. Tortured foreplay of anticipation that justice would erupt from the public in a spontaneous enlightenment, but instead, finding only more audacity.
The lengthy piece of legislation would let police arrest people in public places who will not give their names, address and birth dates, even if they are not doing anything wrong.
My dad got arrested for exactly that at a public fountain back in the late 60s/early 70s. It was during Vietnam, and he was a long-haired draft-age hippie-looking Birkenstock-wearing rock-and-roll dude on a Harley. So he was pretty much arrested for that, although I believe the “official” charge was Failure to Identify Oneself to an Officer, or some other such line of bullshit that basically amounted to, “We’ll just run your hippie ass in and do a little background check.” Funny, how everything old is new again.
“We’ll just run your hippie ass in and do a little background check.”
Why, if I had a nickle for every time I heard that.
…watch out. Syria and Iran may be off the hook, but Canada – espeshually the French part – may be in the White House sights.
Heh, I’d love to see them try. Judging from the typical American reaction to a little snow, your army would do another repeat performance of “Napoleon Marches on Moscow, A Play in Three Acts”. π
I wonder if this law can be used by the old geezers with multiple wives, some as young as 14 in the “religous” town of Bountiful, BC. The sex maniacal elders can rename polygamy “group sex.”
The Bishop of Bountiful has 26 wives, 80 children.
CBC News: the fifth estate
“We’re trying to give the illusion of due diligence.” –Bennett Holiday to Jimmy Pope in Syriana
“Just call me Jimmy.” –Jimmy Pope to Bennett Holiday, as he hands him a plate of barbeque.
I’ve been dying to write that every since you changed your sig. :<)
dang, Canada gets all the good laws. That’s not fair. I guess we’ll have to continue leading by example in eliminating choices of mutual consent between adults down here.
Are there special provisions for group sex poker games?
A slight change of title and the right wing would still go bonkers.
Sex is a sin…physical joining for procreation is the only thing acceptable to the right wing….
Bonkers?? is that a new sex toy??
– – It wasn’t in my latest catalog – and I want ALL the toys!
That’s also a Roman Catholic policy isn’t it?
Surprisingly no. Catholics can do it for fun under three conditions: 1) it has to be heterosexual; 2) no birth control is allowed; and 3) they have to feel really guilty about it.
Look for more attempted election influence by Dobson and his batch of loony fiends.
to begin importing US dollars!
And the Dutch? Funny I’m a Canadian and a Dutchman – so I am straddling these two sex sagas…. laugh…
Seems the Cloggies are infighting over the valuable strands over whether overzealous couples should be allowed to ‘ to abuse their nudist beaches by having sex outdoors.