That ‘toon comes from Pulitzer-winning cartoonist David Horsey of the Seattle P.I., and there’s this cheery story via The Seattle Times:
Feds want records of Web searches
The Bush administration, seeking to revive an online-pornography law struck down by the U.S. Supreme Court, has subpoenaed Google for details on what users have been looking for on its popular search engine.
Google has refused to comply with the subpoena, and on Wednesday the Bush administration asked a San Jose, Calif., federal judge to force the company to do so.
Federal investigators already have obtained potentially billions of Internet search requests made by users of major Web sites run by Microsoft, Yahoo! and America Online, which all complied with the government request, issued in August, a Justice Department official said Thursday. … Read all …)
You’ll pry my Web searches from my COLD DEAD HANDS, you bastards! … Ooops, Yahoo already gave them away … Thanks, Yahoo! FUCK YOU! I’ll never you use your fucking search engine again — Google’s is better anyway! And Microsoft’s? Puleeezzzzzze.
The NYT has a big story on this too: “Google Resists U.S. Subpoena of Search Data.”
As Carpetbagger Report blog comments, “And then they came for your search results.” … read more from Carpetbagger below:
Google asserts that the request is unnecessary, overly broad, would be onerous to comply with, would jeopardize its trade secrets and could expose identifying information about its users.
It’s come to this. Government-monitored phone calls, emails, snail mail, library records, and medical records … that’s all routine. But Google?
To be fair, I realize that the government’s request is for a week of search queries and a random list of a million web addresses in its index, not the personal searches of specific individuals.
Nevertheless, to its enormous credit, Google is resisting on principle and has drawn a line on privacy rights.
While its court filings against the Justice Department subpoena have emphasized the burden of compliance and threat to its trade secrets, Google also pointed to a chilling effect on its customers.
“Google’s acceding to the request would suggest that it is willing to reveal information about those who use its services,” it said in an October letter to the Justice Department. “This is not a perception Google can accept. And one can envision scenarios where queries alone could reveal identifying information about a specific Google user, which is another outcome that Google cannot accept.”
And there’s also the slippery slope. “This is the government’s nose under the search engine’s tent. Once we cross this line it will be very difficult to turn back,” said Marc Rotenberg of the Electronic Privacy Information Center, a District-based nonprofit group that advocates privacy protections. “If companies like Google respond to this kind of subpoena . . . I don’t see why the next subpoena might not say, ‘Give us what we asked for the last time — plus a little more.'”
Google has vowed to resist the subpoena “vigorously.” Stay tuned.
Good morning all! Is anyone watching the Conyer’s hearings on NSA no warrant wiretapping? I am work now but was watching it on Cspan a few minutes ago. The panelists are saying in no uncertain terms that we are in a Comstitutional Crisis and that bush broke the law. Pretty impressive so far. God bless John Conyers for all he tries to do.
Jonathan Turley said several times that “the President has committed a crime” and the tone of his voice makes it sound like this crime is worse than lying about a blow job.
offense…
I am watching this as well. Isn’t it great to hear them all speak to the topic at hand???
Let’s blog it. I didn’t know it was on!
Via AP:
Whoot! That IS good news. A step in the right direction, anyway.
You wouldn’t believe how easy it is to hit links for porn sites without even looking for them. Then again, maybe you would… (you being generic here, of course 😉 ).
In fact, with some searches, it’s tricky to specify the search terms so you don’t get links to porn sites. Which is annoying, but no more so than those damned blinking gif advertisments that pop up everywhere.
(Glad I don’t use AOL, Yahoo or MSN….)
those flashing ads — wonder if they’ve inadvertently caused any epileptic seizures or some such…
If the NSA ever got hold of my searches, about the only thing they’d find would be Sims 2 cheat pages and plus-sized clothing (looking for something dressy for the summer cruise…).
I manage to avoid them, but I’ve been online since before Jesus’ General was a buck private so I have some sense of how to get around them.
But you’re absolutely right, it’s not always easy. Sometimes I’ll go looking for technical information about network protocols or some other geeky subject, only to find that a site I’ve found on Google has sold ad space to some, um, questionable enterprises advertising things I didn’t expect.
This is also where Firefox is your friend.
This browser automatically blocks popups, has a wonderful extension to allow you to remove any object on a web page with one click — deeply satisfying with those flashing crappites, and another extension that automatically reduces Flash animations to a non-moving icon that you can click on if you want to see the content.
Between them, they’ve probably done more to lower my blood pressure than anything Merck has to offer. Firefox is free for the download, is open source, and works with all major operating systems.
Good for Google… They know that it is in their best financial interest to maintain their “clients'” privacy. Will any of us use Yahoo and MSN again? (not that I really use them now anyway)
You can sign up for google mail/portal or myway.com without having to give an email address or other personal info. Last time I checked that was not the case with yahoo, msn, or most others.
Of course they can still read your ISP info, but if you really care, there’s blocking software to prevent that trace as well.
Yahoo, AOL, MSN off my list.
First they came for my web searches, then they came for the garden of my mind -without a search warrant.
What has become of our country? Well, it looks like we’ve become what we once feared and jeered – the Eastern Bloc behind the iron curtain.
Now GOPers like to revel that Reagan conquered the USSR. Did he really? Or did those in his party, who followed him to the Executive Branch import the former USSR expertise in the construct of police states.
Post 9/11 we’re told everything changed and I’m still trying to figure out why we must surrender our liberties to feel safe. How’s is it we defeated that other evil man, Hitler, with his vast army without ceding our liberties?
Well FDR was right when he alerted, “The only thing to fear is fear itself..” Hope I got that right.
Who uses Yahoo, MSN, or AOL anyway?
Seriously, the people I know still using these are the people who use the internet for recipes and movie times. Not exactly the millieu of evil geniouses trying to take over the world… Insane.
Their stock has dropped 11% in past 2 days…
gee, wonder if the kleptocracy knows anything about that?
Nah…just free market forces at work. <snark>
/Peace
I think the whole tech sector has been hammered lately, especially since Intel and Yahoo had lower earnings than forecasted.
Google also had an artificial stock spike after this years Consumer Electronics Show. So some of the decline might be just people taking profits.
I’ve been thinking about writing a couple of diaries loosely grouped around the idea of Privacy for Progressives. There are things the average Internet user can do to prevent government and business intrusion onto their computers and preserve some measure of anonymity. With stuff like this going on, I’m thinking what would otherwise be considered paranoia has morphed into good common sense, and having some step-by-step instructions on how to do things like anonymizing Google cookies and send encrypted email might be a good thing. (Encrypted email isn’t that hard, there are ways to do it in Outlook, but I might need some help on the Mac because I don’t have access to a Mac anymore.)
Oh, and by “average Internet user” I’m talking about the person who surfs the web and reads their e-mail, not about geeks like me who know how to use esoteric operating systems to create armor-clad fortresses on the Internet and do hexadecimal math for fun.
What do you think?
I would sincerely be interested in this that you speek of. Thanks and you go girl!!
Let me know if I can help in any way. This is critical information that everyone should know.
I, personally, would love to see Jonathan Turley debate John Yoo here!!! I would pay my weeks salary to hear this one!
OMG … Me too! Yoo is probably too much of a coward to do it.
Say, he has a new book out — I got an e-mail letting me know. I hope it BOMBS.
FOR THOSE OF YOU who know what to do, may I suggest visiting AMAZON’s page for John Yoo’s new book — and, um, doing your thing?
Susan,
You might want to forward that link on to the ladies at FDL. They might want to help destroy this book as well.
I e-mailed them both … but Reddhead’s addy bounced because her AOL mailbox is full. (We’ve got to get her off AOL too.)
I havent read todays entrance at firedoglake, but you do understand this is what has been going on about one book . If you have the need to know, then go and read for yourself. Appearently it was of success. I will personally do such, for I am so against this one man, I could do flip flops and I am 60 years of age…that would be a feat in an dof itself…:o)
btw, just downgraded Yoo’s book…makes me feel good to do this for the cause of which I so believe in.
I always suspected you were a naughty girl, Brenda.
:o)..doesn’t feel good too!!!????
it makes it more difficult for spies. That is in case, Google buckles.
Also, my son told me about a program that allows a person to check other peoples’ bookmarks. Now, if anyone sees my bookmarks, they will know all about me. Anyone know how to block that type of internet spying?
I think what he’s talking about is a collaborative thing where a group of people can share a common set of bookmarks — for instance, if the people here at Bootrib wanted to share out a large list of progressive web sites. I don’t think there’s any way you can look at someone’s bookmarks without some sort of action on their part.
Firefox has a couple such systems. I can’t remember the names right off and I’m busy so I can’t easily look them up. But to use them you have to install a Firefox extension.
It’s possible there’s some sort of virus/spyware application that allows you to do this, in which case the normal caveats against viruses and spyware apply.
I am using Firefox right now. Thanks, I will check out their extensions.
Google has been building a platform for future deals that will include in it’s own operating system and concentration of full service hardware-system-net-multimedia-content packages. Part of this could be a business ploy and Google has also denied the request for the info based on proprietary or trade secret protection. They’re teaming up with AOL though so the info is already vulnerable.
I’m looking forward to diddling around with a Google Box,,Cube actually, or tickling the G Spot
Well the Republicans want to know everything about everyone..maybe they want to see if their political foes have googled for porno. I mean they should be able to google what their looking for and then go after those web-site that are breaking the law. Why use a vaccum cleaner approach, unless your looking for something else than what you say???
I just google farm animals george bush..google this at your own risk.
it’s Patriot Search, a search site up front about saying they narc on you.
We should all spend the next few weeks searching for the following terms and phrases
bush is a putz
rumsfeld stinks
worst president ever
most incompetent secretary of defense ever
wire tapping is illegal
john c yoo doesn’t know his constitution from his bush
abu gonzales
invasion of privacy is unconstitutional
and sure you folks brighter than me can cram the governments bullshit invasions of our privacy with enough junk to have them continue wasting the FBI’s time like they have been with NSA wiretapping data.
Hey Hadley! I’m gonna call Mom in 5 minutes and complain about sis… ya wanna waste a highly trained FBI man’s time listening in?
I can call my niece at her school in India if you would prefer having a good excuse for listening to me listen to her tell me all about what it is like going to school there for a year.
Hmmm… if all my call centers are in Mumbai… does it qualify as an international call when I call them? Or when they call me back?
Guess the bushies have figured out how to listen in on all business transactions… off shore all call centers and then tap all international calls.
Cool. Neat trick.
Wonder if my companies CEO knows that he handed a competitive advantage to one of bushies friends when he sent a lot of our integration business to india.
I’ll bet some of mine from early on, like 2003, are either framed and displayed or compiled into Top 10 lists. I could always tell they were trapped when the saerches were returned real sl-o-o-o-oww.
“>>…maher arar 9/11 algorithms simulations…<<“
These are the type word combinations that they hate to see.
Important to remember why the DOJ wants this info; it’s so that they can defend themselves on appeal in an ACLU lawsuit challenging COPA (Child online Protection Act?)as being overly broad. This is but one battle in the Bush admin’s war on porn & the First Amendment. Other important lawusits currently in play include kinky photographer Barbara Nitke vs. Gonzales (was Ashcroft) & a suit in Denver filed by the Free Speech Coalition, which challenges the DOJ’s draconian implementation of record-keeping regulations pursuant to 18 U.S. Code 2257.
From my post yesterday:
Why should this matter to us?
The initial request and denial came back in August. There was a push to stop some law back then too concerning COPA and record keeping that was ultimately delayed. I don’t see why DOJ would need Google’s info, that DOJ probably already has and is likely duplicate of the other 3, for the reasons they’ve given.
The August case you’re thinking of is probably the Free Speech Coalition 2257 case.
More here.
Yup, that’s the one. It still doesn’t make much sense because the proposed change was more of an harassment than an enhancement to the existing law.
Glad to see this made the front page!
How to avoid Google’s tracking at
Booman Tribune ~ Hey Red Staters ? Bush is after your porn