Let’s play a parlor game, shall we? How many soldiers, commandos and marines does it take to protect our dear leader when he takes a quickie trip to India?
India is one of our friends and trading partners, and as far as I know not a members of the Axis of Evil or even a just a plain old generic state sponsor of terrorism. They’re one of the good guys, so to speak. So surely they don’t hate their our Emperor-in-Chief nearly as much as one of those countries filled with Islamo-fascist terrorists. Why, I bet they like him there more than the citizens of New York City do (or, at a minimum, no less).
So what do you think: besides the usual Secret Service detail how many heavily armed men need to keep Dubya’s butt safe while wandering about — New Dehli, say? A hundred? Five hundred? One thousand? Or does that seem excessively high to you?
Follow me below the fold for the answer . . .
Well, would you believe this number?
NEW DELHI (Reuters) – About 5,000 personnel including snipers, commandos and U.S. marines using helicopters, bomb detectors and electronic jammers will protect President George W. Bush during his visit to India this week, officials said on Monday.
The personnel would be part of a three-ring security cordon around the U.S. president and First Lady Laura Bush who are due to arrive in New Delhi for their maiden visit to the subcontinent on Wednesday, they said.
“He is a much-threatened VVIP. We are fully geared,” Manish Agarwal, a top Delhi police officer involved in security operations, told Reuters.
Sadly, I was a little off in my earlier estimates. I’ll bet you did much better than I. I should have known King George would need to be at the center of an especially large 3 ring circus circle of security. When you’re a War President you probably need to be surrounded by the troops, even when you’re not wearing a flight suit and codpiece. Still, 5000 sounds like a lot.
I wonder how many President Gore or President Kerry would have needed?
Yes, I know. I’m so silly. That’s a rhetorical question, at best, as long as Diebold and the Supreme Court get to count our votes for us.
But to step away just a bit from my frivolity on this subject, isn’t this the perfect example of what Bush has wrought? No country in the world is safe for him without a massive security detail. And more and more the world is blaming us, the garden variety plebes of America, for Bush’s follies.
How many are willing to travel outside the United States and loudly broadcast your citizenship these days? I know a number of friends who plaster Canadian Maple Leafs on their luggage when they travel. My son, who journeyed to Japan last Summer, was amazed at how angry so many of the ordinary Japanese he met were regarding the United States and Iraq. And they blame us as much as Bush for what’s happening there.
Ironic, isn’t it. That the President so many thought would make them safer has actually made us so much less safe. Terrorist attacks world wide are on the increase. International polling shows that most people around the world feel the threat from terrorism has grown under Bush’s watch as a direct result of the Iraq War, his central front in the War on Terror.
Maybe surrendering our ideals and our civil liberties, and promoting torture and pursuing illegal wars against innocent peoples, isn’t the best strategery for a conflict with international terrorists. Maybe, just maybe, we should have had a little more faith in our country’s strengths, and a little less fear of its weaknesses.
Too late now. We will be suffering the consequences of Bush’s catastrophic policies for decades to come. The inability to travel without fear outside our borders is only one of the smaller prices we have to pay for the worst presidency ever.
Yougo with the security detail you have not the one you want.
I hear it’s the same security detail he takes with him to Crawford, TX.
Our strengths could have won hearts and minds. Our hypocrisy has sealed the world’s contempt for us.
I fear you are correct in that it will be a long time before this is forgotten. Worst presidency and we have almost four more years of this idiot. Imagine the damage he can do over the next four years. Whoa….maybe we better not.
I shared Steven’s words with my hockey friends and my friend reminded me that George doesn’t even visit America…
“When was the last time Bush appeared before the American public in the US? I mean not one of his Rove-engineered Aryan Republican-faithful only Nuremburg rallies.” – my beloved hockey friend
No he doesn’t. He is the most self-absorbed, protected spoiled rotten brat. And he doesn’t see anyone he doesn’t want to, doesn’t hear anything he doesn’t want to, doesn’t do anything he doesn’t want to.
And then blames us for all his mistakes.
We all know the type, we just never imagined such a maroon would ever become our President.
On the special features side of the DVD American Psycho Killer Edition – a film critic states that Bush is much like Bateman’s character. He has everything but attained, deserves none of it so he has nonething and lives with a a sense of guilt – but not the kind that makes you a better person – the kind that makes you a murdering pig. You have so much hate and misery inside and since none of your belongings really belong to you and therefore can’t bring you joy – the only joy you get is making others just as miserable as you are.
The only time you see that fucker giddy is when he’s talking about tragedy or death. The fucker SMILES.
(((((Steven))))) xoxoxox
Thats true security would be impossible if he was to show his face to the people in this country. Best he makes his public appearances from India.
BTW: Detroit at San Jose tonight DJ. I have NHL Center Ice on my cable so I’ll be watching and rooting for the Sharks. Detroit swept my Flyers last time we made it to the finals.
I think th elast time we saw Bush was after 9/11. Bullhorn Bush.
I’m waiting for the Bunker Bush. 🙂
Ack Sharks.. they’re sucking but I hear we’ll have Joe Thornton on the ice : )Detroit still has many of it’s team members (the Swedish ones) not back in the states. They went with the fines and partied elsewhere. So we could pull it off 🙂
correctly, Darth Vader also had a large security detail.
Yes and we know how popular Star Wars is with the conservatives.
Hey, some of us lefties like Star Wars too. But mostly, we don’t identify with the Imperial characters.
Hey, that’s 5000 troops who DON”T have to be in Iraq this week. Lucky them.
Re: Anti-American world opinion… my (very) Republican mother is married to a Welshman and lives in Great Britain. She is shocked, shocked I say!, at the level of anti-American venom she hears each day. Funny aside — My (very) Republican mother recently lost her job. When her “where did he come from?” son asked if she’d be returning to the States, she not-so-(very)-Republicanly replied, “If you’re going to be out of work, you may as well live in a place where you healthcare.” Hmmmm….
Wow. Ahhhh the hypocrisy astounds doesn’t it? 🙂
My Talabaptist family who disowned me caused I should have been shot in the head IN PUBLIC since I marched against Bush and have poisoned my children agianst G-d and Bush…
They still love Bush. None of them are suiting up. Of the 14 cousins I have… most of which are racist pigs… and I’m glad I’m not around them.. How many work??
Well we liberal pukes want hands outs?? right? We’re scum? right?? We want to take from hard working families and give all the money away right??
Back to my question: Only 3 now have jobs. Most didn’t lose em though. Most now feel that they “best” way to get health coverage is to go on …
WELFARE.
These are able bodies people!!!!!! None of them should be on welfare. They ALL live on their parent’s property or houses GIVEN to them from inheritances… it’s so hypocritical.
of travelling to Africa and the Far East (Phillippines) in my work.
I can say that I have not yet seen the hostility towards the US government and the Bush administration transfered to me personally. Maybe that’s because I usually make it pretty clear to those around me what I think of US government policies (even though it is the US government that pays for my trips, and the organization I work for gets the money they pay me in salary from the US government).
Once my son made it clear he hated Bush, things usually went a lot smoother.
my best friend’s son went to Germany this year as a part of his art school. He stayed with a host family.
Things were stiff till the host family asked about whether or not he or his family voted for Bush.
How does this compare to other Presidents when they traveled? Seriously curious here. Does anybody know? Is it appreciably larger than in the past?
I have not heard of US Presidents before George W using troops for protection on overseas visits. Plenty of secret service, for sure, but not the military.
He’s going to need all of them when he goes to Pakistan. I wouldn’t be surprised to see something happen.
He’s either braver than we give him credit for, or dumber than we give him credit for. I know which one I’m voting for.
I just wish he’d have to touch down in a country with both the will to arrest him for war crimes and the military wherewithal to do so . . .
I woke up when I heard it too. If something bad would happen to that idiot when he’s in Pakistan it will be a nightmare for all of us. Cheney will be in charge. Pray the little weasel bush comes back in one piece.
Neither braver nor dumber, don’t ya remember GOD is looking after him.
And I hope GOD does a real good job, ’cause the last thing we need is for this guy to become a fkg martyr.
If so, I guess they need that many troops to keep the sheriff away. People in every real democracy know that Bush is quite literally subject to arrest as a war criminal.
They’ll probably end up shooting at each other.
Perhaps it would be best if he met with Indian leaders in the middle of the Deccan plateau–there is some desert that is empty enough he would not need to worry about assassination by the public.
Burgers and fries could be air-dropped.
Wonder if he thinks he is going to get India to sign the NPT? ;D
I’d say that the 5,000 troops have more to do with the fact that Bush has gone to Afghanistan than that he is about to visit India!