Well, maybe in Uzbekistan also. I’m not sure, but I’m willing to bet that leg shackles on women prisoners while they are giving birth is something the Uzbeki dictator might also approve of:
Shawanna Nelson, a prisoner at the McPherson Unit in Newport, Ark., had been in labor for more than 12 hours when she arrived at Newport Hospital on Sept. 20, 2003. Ms. Nelson, whose legs were shackled together and who had been given nothing stronger than Tylenol all day, begged, according to court papers, to have the shackles removed.
Though her doctor and two nurses joined in the request, her lawsuit says, the guard in charge of her refused.
“She was shackled all through labor,” said Ms. Nelson’s lawyer, Cathleen V. Compton. “The doctor who was delivering the baby made them remove the shackles for the actual delivery at the very end.”
Just a fluke “red state” occurence you might suppose. But no. Not at all. What’s really shocking is that this obcenity is hardly limited to Arkansas. In fact, it’s widespread, with only 2 states (California and Illinois) having laws that officially proscribe this barbaric practice, (though five more have Corrections Department policies in place that prohibit shackles during labor).
For more information on this story, read on . . .
Twenty-three state corrections departments, along with the federal Bureau of Prisons, have policies that expressly allow restraints during labor, according to a report by Amnesty International U.S.A. on Wednesday.
The corrections departments of five states, including Connecticut, and the District of Columbia, the report found, prohibit the practice. The remaining states do not have laws or formal policies, although some corrections departments told the group that they did not use restraints as a matter of informal practice.
That’s pretty sickening when you think about it. And what could possibly justify this policy? Well, believe it or not, the fear that pregnant women in labor are a “flight risk.”
“Though these are pregnant women,” said Dina Tyler, a spokeswoman for the Arkansas Department of Corrections, “they are still convicted felons, and sometimes violent in nature. There have been instances when we’ve had a female inmate try to hurt hospital staff during delivery.”
[…]Many states justify restraints because the prisoners remain escape risks, though there have apparently been no instances of escape attempts by women in labor.
“You can’t convince me that it’s ever really happened,” Ms. Newell said. “You certainly wouldn’t get far.”
Now, I’ve never been in labor (obviously) but I did help my wife with the delivery of our two children, and I cannot imagine how anyone could think that shackling a woman’s legs together while she’s having contractions could be a safe procedure, for either the mother or her child. And, in fact, it isn’t:
Ms. Nelson was serving time for identity fraud and writing bad checks when she gave birth at age 30. She weighed a little more than 100 pounds, and her baby, it turned out, weighed nine and a half pounds.
The experience of giving birth without anesthesia while largely immobilized has left her with lasting back pain and damage to her sciatic nerve, according to her lawsuit against prison officials and a private company, Correctional Medical Services
Bush’s America. Where we shackle pregnant women convicted for identity theft, because, even while in labor they are just so, so dangerous. God only knows what she might have done, this 100 pound woman waddling away from the hospital while in the middle of delivering her 9 1/2 lb. child. The consequences are just too horrible to imagine.
speechless.
After I had my son four years ago, my 81yo father asked me if they had tied me to the bed while I gave birth. This apparently was standard practice back in his day (father of seven, born between 1945 and 1968).
And being immobilized during labor is not an experience that is unique to prisoners wearing leg shackles. Many hospitals will tell a laboring woman that she can’t get out of bed because it will interfere with continuous fetal monitoring, or because her water has broken and she musn’t risk a cord prolapse, or because policy (often in conflict with evidence-based medicine) requires an IV. And even with pain meds, being bedfast during labor can be excruciating. If the epidural isn’t placed properly, the woman might be unable to walk safely but still feel contractions on one side of her body.
IME, despite the lip service to “choice,” women have few rights under the medicalized model of childbirth. And convicts have no rights regarding normal motherhood. So it all dovetails together pretty neatly.
Luckily what you described wasn’t my wife’s experience.
And I was very glad to tell my father that nobody tied me to the bed.
Also that when things went awry, the anasthesiologist placed the epidural in my spine properly, so that it worked as intended.
I’m not opposed to medical interventions in birth. I am opposed to unnecessary ones that create risk for mother and/or baby as a way of minimizing risk or inconvenience to their health care providers. I’m also opposed to attitudes and policies that disempower or victimize women as they give birth.
I agree. One thing that has always bothered me is how many Caesarian sections are performed in America. I have had two friends deliver children this way, and apparently its not uncommon anymore for Doctor’s to jump the gun on surgery when it may not be needed.
The cesarean rate was about 5% in 1970 — now it is nearing 30%, rising every year. It’s rapidly becoming the standard of care, and from what I have heard, it generally is not provided with the legally-required informed consent of the patient.
A good source for more information on this topic:
http://www.maternitywise.org/home.html
i think that is why all higher space travelling life forms have enormous heads. Once you figure out how to avoid the birth canal there is no evolutionary limit on how big a head can be and how many brains you can pack in it. But eventually, natural birth is no longer an option.
Not that I believe in anal-probing big-headed aliens…
are you basing this on personal observation?
yes. Observation of television and cinema.
ah
primary source material
next best thing to personal experience
given their penchant for messing with the butt, I’d say, in this case, the primary source material route is the superior one.
good point
although why someone with higher intelligence would be obsessed with your butt is beyond me
have you seen my butt?
It’s almost proof of their higher intelligence.
the cesarean rate hasn’t increased sixfold in 35 years because of increased fetal head size.
Evolution has provided a handy way to get large heads through birth canals. A female pelvis is made of several parts connected by ligaments that get increasingly stretchy throughout pregnancy. Also, a fetus’s skull is made of several distinct bone plates that can slide overtop of one another (producing the less-than-lovely head molding that you see in vaginally-birthed newborns for a few days postpartum).
It’s culture more than anything that interferes with the birth process and leads to lots of surgical births.
Fear of litigation and lack of medical training in breech birth delivery (they don’t teach it in med school any more) contribute to the high Caesarean rate.
After 24 hours of labor, I was very happy to have a c-section. I would have been happier if they had done it sooner. However a c-section is much more expensive than a regular delivery, so the Hospital was hesitant to perform the operation. All other routes had to be tried first and only when it became obvious that my backwards child was not going to get the f out of me, they decided on a c-section.
This is definately another one of those situations where if a man could experience pregnancy, labor and birth, they would cease making these absurd laws.
is probably the toughest of all recoveries.
I’m sorry it turned out that way for you.
ouch
I’m imagining having a big headed baby with my legs chained together and a bunch of security guards surrounding me.
ooooooooooouuuuuuch
I can see their point, I did physically hurt my husband while in the midst of delivering a nine and one-half pound baby. And it felt good to hurt him. And I’d do it again if I had the chance. Just for the fun of it.
of circumstances.
The leg shackles and hostile security guards must have been a real endorphin-killer.
That poor woman. All those poor women.
I tried a few times to form a thought, but all I can come up with is those dirty stinking fucking asshole bastards. Other than that I’m kind of speechless, like BooMan.
Sickened does it for me.
cruel and inhuman
Probably not in Scalito’s world.
probably not
and that’s also why I didn’t use the word unusual — since it appears that this happens more than we would like to believe.
but it is inhuman.
included this particular atrocity in their report on US human rights violations for years.
No, it’s not new, but this is the first time I’ve heard of it.
Me too. I’m ashamed to say it. It’s about time I came out of my little shell and started to pay attention. I think that today is a good day to join the ACLU.
Those fucking slimy assholes. How goddamn dare they continue to subjegate women like this? When are you storming the castle already Yankees??
I think it’s far more widespread than just those rebel states.
I call all American’s Yankees since you are all to the south of me.
So when are you storming the castle and taking over? (ie. the WH)
Not soon enough for moi.
Goddess bless America! Please!
Glad to see prison medical issues raised here; most americans are happy to lock someone away & never think about it again. Can’t say that I’m shocked. Litigation over CA’s prison medical care dragged on for years & years, with both Democratic & Republican governors pretty much supporting the foot-dragging & lack of action, until recently, Judge Thelton Henderson of the Ninth District placed the entire Department of Corrections’ medical care into a receivership under his control. He just appointed someone to head it who has total control of the medical system, including hiring/firing & budgeting. Needless to say, the prison guard’s union, one of the most powerful ones in the state, is seriously unhappy. Take a look into the case & you will read of some truly disgusting stories of abuse & neglect of prisoner’s needing medical care.
Can I ask in all seriousness, why this is described as Bush’s America? It’s not like prison conditions were better under Clinton & have suddenly gotten worse under GW. People simply don’t give a fuck what happens to prisoners, a point driven home most recently in Tesxas when an inmate sued the state for being repeatedly raped; the jury found he didn’t have a case.
Okay. I’m a sick twit, but I can’t help imagining the B movie that could be made…
The felon grabs the afterbirth and flings it at the guard, knocking him off balance. She then scoops up the newborn and uses it as a hostage while fleeing down the hospital corridor with her gown flapping in the breeze.
LOL…it could work!
exactly how?
We’re sicker than I ever expected.
What is WRONG with these people? That they have zero compassion for fellow humans, instead getting their sense of empowerment by such horrid treatment of another person. “If you’re scum, I’m something!”
How beyond sad.
American psychology in a nutshell.
One depraved people.
horrible uncaring sadistic people were a rarity in
this country. Reading this, learning about things at Abu Ghraib and Guantameno and others — I am starting to realize how wrong I’ve been.
This is just medieval. I have never had a child, but a friend once described it as: ‘putting a watermelon through a peach pit’. ow
To be forced to do that with your legs shackled is just unbelievable. Just cruel. I mean, surely they didn’t the was going to escape in the middle of giving birth?!
I’m not sure if we have evolved at all any more.
process.
Walking on two legs didn’t happen overnight, either, and the first ones to do it, we can be sure, will have been ostracized, reviled and vilified, shunned and run out of cave on a rock.
So will be the process of ending inhumanity to man.
Today someone posted a piece about how even infants instinctively want to help and cooperate with their fellow humans.
The other day, someone else, maybe me, posted something somewhere about how little children do not know anti-Otherness. Watch them play together, they do not segregate themselves and throw things at each other because of skin color or hair texture. And when they are a little older, they could care less who goes to the mosque and who goes to the synagogue or the church beyond how this impacts when the child involved will be available for playing.
These terrible things, wherever they come from, we teach our children, who are born without them.
All we can do to help the process of evolution is to teach them that they are on the right track with that cooperation and acceptance, and resolve that we will not hate, we will not do harm, because each of us can control only ourselves.
And Brenda, if you are out there, I guess that is the ethics piece I promised you 😉