Mark Liebovich just posted a profile on Nancy Pelosi at the New York Times and it is really nasty. I mean, Ms. Pelosi received no love for agreeing to be interviewed. I’m not saying that Liebovich smeared her (exactly) or misrepresented the facts. Ms. Pelosi does struggle as a public speaker. And I’m sure Liebovich quoted her correctly. But let’s look at the snark…
Ms. Pelosi teeters on a fine line: between the need to say what Democrats plan to do if they win control of the House and the danger of speaking too soon. She begins some sentences with “when we win” and others with “if we win.” Sometimes she will tack on a qualifier (“no matter who wins this election”) or caveat (“that’s if the election were held today”)…
After November, she hopes — or expects — to assume that mantle, depending on what conjunction she happens to be using…
Ms. Pelosi can struggle at times to give the air of the gravitas that powerful women like Hillary Rodham Clinton and Condoleezza Rice do, both friends and adversaries say. She can appear tentative and overscripted in interviews, with a tight smile and large, expressive eyes than can leave an impression of nervousness.
“Her public speaking style is not good,” said Representative Barney Frank, Democrat of Massachusetts…
The view of Ms. Pelosi as a deficient spokeswoman for her party was buttressed during an appearance on NBC’s “Meet the Press” earlier this month, which centered largely on what Democrats would do if they won the House. Political insiders of both parties judged her performance as shaky, uncommanding and defensive…
Asked why she makes such a popular Democratic bogyman, or bogywoman, Ms. Pelosi shrugged, smirked and, finally, smiled.
“I am an Italian-American Catholic grandmother,” she said, “very traditional in terms of values.”
She repeated this three times, as if to emphasize that her self-image was at odds with more common descriptors, like “San Francisco liberal.”
…In the course of two interviews, Ms. Pelosi repeated herself frequently, even by the hyper-repetitious standards of politicians:
…She repeated Jesse Jackson-like alliterative sound bites in halting un-Jackson-like cadences. Republicans, she said, “are engaging in deluge and desperation,” while her Democratic caucus “is a great collection of idealism, intellect and” — she paused while trying to summon the third “i” — “integrity.”
In the interest of fairness, Liebovich also had many flattering things to say about Pelosi. But he made sure to add this exchange.
Ms. Pelosi nodded vigorously when asked if she was friends with Representative Tom DeLay, whom she had just seconds earlier described as “corrupt.” She went on to catalog the work the two had done together in Congress. And then Ms. Pelosi affirmed, once again, how “corrupt” her friend Mr. DeLay was.
I’m the first to admit that telling reporters that you have worked with and are friends with corrupt politicans is a curious thing to do. It’s hard to understand why Pelosi would consider a character like DeLay to be a friend and then go around calling him a crook. But, you know, this little paragraph is all part of a larger hatchet job, which even includes a less than flattering photo.
I don’t understand why the New York Times maintains its reputation for being a liberal newspaper. This article comes across as an adversarial piece. The reporter takes care to point out flaws in Pelosi’s presentation to him during the interview. He mocks her attempts at alliteration. That’s a little outside the norm for what even I expect from a NYT’s reporter. An openly partisan reporter? Sure…that comes with the territory.
I think this kind of reporting crosses a line. It’s true that Pelosi is a less than ideal public speaker and she is not great at giving interviews, and that is worth reporting. But, not this way. Not from the New York Times. Liebovich also made sure to include talk about her sagging chin and her unfamiliarity with french fries.
As the prospect of a Democratic majority gains credibility and Ms. Pelosi is more visible, she is also subjected to the speculation and analysis about her hair, makeup and clothes that any woman positioned for such a big job often must endure.
“I hear them say on TV that I’ve had face-lifts,” said Ms. Pelosi, 66, who added that she had never had one. “I heard one woman say I’ve had a face-lift, but it looks terrible.”
She shook her head and said, “Did you ever think that those two things cancel themselves out?”
…”I had a hamburger last night and it was my breakfast, lunch and dinner,” she said last week. “And I had these strange things. I realized they were French fries.” She made quick spiraling gestures with her fingers to show what they looked like.
It was apparent that she was not familiar with curly fries.
There are more snide remarks in the column than I have picked out, and many quotes from Republican operatives that run her down for being a ‘prehistoric liberal’ or talk of ‘San Francisco’s Contract with America’. I don’t think it was a fair and balanced piece. Maybe this is just an indignity that women must endure when then endeavor to be taken seriously. Maybe it is a hostility to liberals. Maybe Liebovitz just doesn’t like her personality or her style. Whatever it is, I don’t care for this style of reporting in the Grey Lady. It should be beneath them.
First the hatchet job on the Clintons’ marriage, now this…the NYT is just taking the lead for the rest of the MSM in scaring the American People into the fear of “look what’s going to happen if you let the Democrats take control.”
San Francisco is merely a code word for “the gay agenda”, regardless of how straight Pelosi is. (I still remember how the ultra-right was up in arms over Roberta Achtenberg’s appointment to HUD by President Clinton.)
And I am soooooo damn sick and tired of articles about women who aren’t in the entertainment industry that put an over-emphasis on the woman’s appearance. When was the last time we heard about Dennis Hastert’s hanging jowls or white hair, or Harry Reid’s thinning hair? (Don’t know if he does have thinning hair, but you get the point.) We’ve had almost 2 years of style over substance in the California governor’s chair…not to mention nearly 6 years of style over substance in the Oval Office, and God knows how many years of style over substance in the halls of Congress. I’d settle for a little more boredom in exchange for a hell of a lot more actual work done…
Your are largely correct. I particularly “liked” the part about Pelosi’s large, expressive eyes. Can’t remember the last time someone made that kind of comment about a male politician.
On the other hand, several of the personalities on Air America have been relentlessly unkind about Hastert’s … um … girth lately. Frankly I wish they’s all knock it off and concentrate on the issues.
I can’t believe the following: that the NYT would actually think the state of the Clinton’s marriage was news, what Nancy Pelosi had to eat was also considered news, and that some bonehead editor would actually think that the public gave a damn about either.
Gawd!!
to discredit Pelosi and get her out of the way so they can get one of their minions in there. It’s part and parcel of the recent attacks on Dean. They want no alternative power centers or leaders that detract from their own authority.
I’ve lost all respect for Howard Dean. The man is a doctor in an influential postition–he should have been speaking on against Part D on a daily basis, but no! (IMO, he is too concerned about his personal goals.) Hell, my one of my doctors has spoken out against it more!!!
Any candidate who refuses to support a single payer health care system does not get my vote!!!
and whenever he’s tried to speak out he gets shot down by Rahm, Reid, Schumer, and yes even Pelosi he’s been focusing on the part of his job he actually has influence and some amount of control over: Infrastructure, grassroots organzing, and growing the individual contributor base.
As for single-payer, his stand is simple and always has been. Let’s get everyone covered first, and then worry about payment systems.
Excuse me, Pelosi has been holding Town Hall hearings re: Part D, and has joined with Waxman and Stark in calling for a Congressional Investigation re: Part D. Shumer has been speaking out against Part D . Dick Durbin has been meeting w/American United in an effort to change this atrocity–remember how Americans United was THE mnajor player against gwb’s Social Secutity Privaization? Teddy Kennedy has been speaking out.
And you expect me to believe that he is actually supporting a Single Payer systemm? Haven’t heard a thing about him supporting Conyers legislation, or any of the other plans that are being tossed about.
Ever hear of PHNP?
One of my doctors is a member, even though it is technically, “not his job”.
Seems to me that a doctor in his position should be speaking out in a similar manner, unless his so-called stand is nothing more than self-serving bullshit.
Let’s get everyone covered first, and then worry about payment systems.
As you have used the word systems, I can only take it that Dean is NOT in favor of a single payer system.
And on a final note, the funding is the most impotant aspect of ANY government program. That has to be taken care of first!!!! Is Dean advocating another unfunded mandate to sweet talk voters?
Seems like it from this end.
I don’t like Pelosi. She’s behind the curve on leadership action and speech. Still, she tries, although she’s waist deep in business-as-usual.
On another note, it seems that a lot of bloggers want to call the MSM on this stuff. These Google groups are one set of bloggers who are trying for concerted actions. I’m sure other places are doing it, too.
Julie at New York State Project, Google Group, among others, wants to straighten out the Times. She posted this to the Group messages:
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Thanks!!! Am I going to give them hell about the crap that they have been considering “newsworthy”!!!
Am I ever glad that Memorial Day is over!!!! (Am in the Eastern Time Zone.) I was keeping fairly quiet out of respect for the vets who had died and that Memorial Day is so important to so many. Now I can be myself again!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You’re welcome! We need to take up the gauntlet. The google state project groups originated through firedoglake, I think. Your state probably has one.
Thanks. Will check it out.
I think I’m in the minority on this. I just did a quick read-through and my impression was mostly positive…not personally, but in trying to look at it through the eyes of the casual voter. It gives them what they want, which is the fluff. The comments by the GOP side and the criticisms of Pelosi’s “expressive eyes” and so on, actually hooks the reader before getting to things like this:
Now if I’m John or Jane Sixpack, not really familiar with Pelosi, I’ve been reading this article which outlines some valid (along with the fluff) criticisms of style, but none of real substance. Then I read this and might say, “Hmmm…from a religious background, married once and apparently really good at her job. Who cares if she’s not very good on TV?” Then I read this:
Again, something that will impress the average voter. Add to that the disapproval numbers for Bush and the GOP and I think a lot of people will read that and think they may not agree with her on all the issues, but it sounds like she can get the job done.
Personally I think the article is a piece of crap. If I wanted to know what a public figure eats or does for exercise, I’d subscribe to People magazine. But I do think the overall impression for the non-political junkies will be positive.
I doubt that many non-news junkies actually read the NYT–glance at the headlines, yeah. But actually read a crap article like that?
Well, unfortunately I think that is exactly the kind of thing a lot of people like. Instead of being interested in, for example, the particulars of her 88% consensus record, most people would rather hear the tabloid-style information.
I wish that weren’t the case, but since it is, I don’t think this article is a negative.
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