We see Israel’s attack on Lebanon (or many of us do here) as a disproportional response to the threat it faces. Air strikes in civilian areas that have nothing to do with Hizbollah. The destruction of valuable infrastructure which undermines the fragile Lebanese democracy. Murderous assaults on civilians such as the recent Qana bombing that killed at least 60, including 34 children. But that is not how many Israelis view their recent military adventure north of their border. To them it is a life or death struggle they mean to win:
JERUSALEM (Reuters) – Israelis see the war against Hizbollah in stark terms. It’s about the survival of the Jewish state — and that means showing Israel’s enemies, especially Iran, that any attack will be severely punished.
That is why Israel is resisting mounting demands for an immediate ceasefire after an air strike killed 54 civilians, including 37 children, in a Lebanese village on Sunday. […]
“Israelis see Hizbollah as a proxy of Iran that every morning threatens us with extermination,” said Yaron Ezrahi, a political science professor at Hebrew University in Jerusalem.
“This has triggered visions of the Holocaust and extermination. It explains why there has been such intense support here for the operation against Hizbollah.”
Many Israelis fear Hizbollah is the speartip of Iran, whom they accuse of trying to build nuclear bombs and whose president has said the Jewish state should be wiped off the map.
We’ve seen this mindset before, here in our own country where right wing voices continually shout about the Islamofascist Menace in terms that approach apocalyptic rhetoric. It is the mindset of unrelenting tribal fear, that makes everyone who is not a member of the tribe suspect, and somehow less than human, that turns the “enemy” into a demonic other whose members should be eradicated. It is the mindset that justifies atrocities based on the principle that “The only Good [Fill in the blank] is a Dead [Fill in the blank].”
(Cont.)
I don’t mean to belittle the threat to Israel posed by Hizbollah and Hamas, but can anyone seriously think it is close to being overrun and destroyed by militant Islamists? Israel has the best military forces in the region, far better trained and equipped than any of its neighbors. Although beset by terrorist groups such as Hamas and Hizbollah, those attacks do not really represent a threat to its existence, except perhaps in the mind of some conservative’s feverish nightmare. Hizbollah’s weaponry cannot even effectively target Israeli cities, unlike the far more precise and deadly arsenal employed by Israel. Looking at the respective death tolls of the two civilian populations, it isn’t difficult to determine who has the power to eradicate a civilization and who cannot.
And this is true even without considering Israel’s nuclear arsenal, the only one in the entire Middle East (Pakistan is a nuclear power, yes, but its focus is on India, its traditional enemy, and it is more properly seen as being a Central Asian power, rather than a threat to Israel). Indeed, in the last 3 decades, it has been the Israelis who have been the aggressor in the Middle East, attacking at different times Iraq, Jordan, Syria and (most frequently) Lebanon. Israel is the local bully on the block, its only significant enemies being terrorist organizations that cannot inflict significant harm on its population.
What these feeble terrorists have been able to accomplish, however, is perhaps far worse: the militarization of the Israeli psyche. A significant portion of Israeli citizens believe they are in a fight to the death with their Arab neighbors, not based on the physical reality of their situation, but on the mental reality that these terrorist attacks have created. Fear truly is the mind killer:
While Hizbollah fighters were not about to march through the streets of Israeli cities as many feared the Arab armies would do in 1967, the stakes were just as high, [Michael Oren, a senior fellow at the Shalem Center in Jerusalem] said.
“The fear is of being perceived as weak and vulnerable. Then when Iran acquires nuclear weapons Hizbollah can shell Israel with impunity and we will not be able to respond,” Oren said.
“Foreign investment would flee the country, tourists would not come. The country could be strangled economically. In essence it would be the destruction of the Jewish state.” […]
“You are not fighting here about settlements and territory. Everybody realizes the other side wants to exterminate us.”
Alon Kelderon, 43, a plumber in the northern city of Haifa, a favorite target for Hizbollah rocket attacks, said Israel had to show the Arab world it had not gone soft.
“Let’s face it, no one will shed a tear if Israel is destroyed. We must finish this for our own existence,” he said.
This is how terrorists gain their victories. Not on the ground, but in the minds of their adversaries. By creating fear among those who are their victims, the terrorists bring into existence a culture of revenge, a society willing to strike with maximum force at innocent people who are not responsible for the terror attacks. Because of the skewed perception that society itself is in danger of collapse, extreme measures are adopted, and extremist viewpoints become the norm. The necessity of eradicating one’s enemies because they hate you and wish to destroy you becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.
It is difficult to reject fear. It is a far more intense emotion than almost any other. From it comes anger and rage and blood lust, and the irrational viewpoint of a child who can only lash out at those around him, a child who has lost the ability to think calmly and objectively about the true nature of the world around him. We have seen the same thing here in the United States. How easy it is to rally to the cry of “9/11 Changed Everything” and “Support the Troops” and “God Bless America.” There is a reason we often qualify the word “patriotism” with the adjective “blind.”
But if we and the Israelis are to have a chance to build a lasting peace between our respective societies and the Islamic world, then collectively we will have to open our eyes. We will have to employ our talents for empathy and reason, rather than our acumen at creating violence, death and destruction. In short we need to talk to Muslims, and even more importantly we need to listen to what they have to tell us. It will not be easy, for there is much anger and mutual distrust. But it is the only path that has any hope of creating the “lasting peace” to which Mr. Bush and Ms. Rice disingenuously give lip service.
Let me close by reminding you of the difference between seeing violence as the solution, rather than diplomacy and simple human contact. Back in 1998, Hezbollah was also firing rockets into Israel. President Clinton, rather than encouraging the Israelis to invade Lebanon and eliminate, Bill Clinton got on the phone with then Syrian President Hafez Assad and requested that Syria use its influence with Hezbollah to stop the rocket attacks. Not surprisingly, Hezbollah shortly thereafter did stop firing its missiles into Israel.
Could Bush and Israel do the same thing now that Clinton did back in 1998? Same parties, similar situation. Who knows, but they won’t even try, because in their minds the enemy must be eliminated, and war is the only solution. They accept, without question, that the survival of the State of Israel is at stake in the present conflict. Just as diehard Bush supporters here in the US conflate “Islamofascism” with the real fascism of the Nazis, and the “War on Terror” with World War III.”
Bush supporters and Israelis are both prisoners of their fears, fears they have exaggerated beyond all reason. And that is the true tragedy of what we are witnessing today in Lebanon, and across the Middle East. The victory of the terrorists is complete.
Also posted at the Orange Place
should be an interesting conversation over there. A good test for Londonbear’s talking points diary.
I don’t know what Israel’s leadership think they are accomplishing, but it was obvious from day one that their stated goals were unachievable. That is why I never believed their stated goals.
They are showing everyone they are tough. I really think it’s as simple as that.
That and they are doing Bush’s bidding. The timing of this crisis is not coincidental.
It’s a huge failure of the left – and I speak as a life-long lefty – that it has not yet acknowledged that, in fact, Hezbollah and Iran mean what they say. They lust after and will not stand down from a strategy calling for the annihilation of Israel.
Sometimes a rose is a rose is a rose. After all this time, it’s time we on the Left accept that radical Islam means exactly what it states are its goals.
Nothwithstanding that, of course, Israel can be criticized for stupid tactics, for committing war crimes, for behaving in ways that destroy their alliances and undermines their own long-term goals.
Equally true, as other writers have perceived, Israel’s long-term interests are not necessarily the same as the United States. They truly are in a fight for their lives. The Us’s participation depends solely on whether its interests align with Israel’s. For now, they seem to, but it’s not hard to imagine circumstances where the two countries will diverge (“Rapture,” anyone?)
Still, it’s not useful to state, pretend, believe etc. that Israel is not under attack when it plainly is. That can only create tactics and strategies that are also doomed to failure.
Criticizing Israel is not per se anti-semitic. It has much to answer for. It has committed war crimes in the past and may be doing so right now, but it is fighting for its life and it’s nonsense to say otherwise. Just because extermination won’t happen tomorrow, doesn’t mean it’s not planned for the day after.
Tactics and strategies are developed in context. The West’s failure (deliberate because of its need for oil) to properly protect and nurture its own decision to create Israel through the 1948 partition have led Israel to adopt harsh tactics often because there seemed no other way out of their dilemma.
If the West means Israel to remain intact, it needs to do the things necessary to create a Palestinian state that is economically viable while simultaneously vigorously addressing external threats to Israel’s security. Anything else is just a stately gavotte danced over Israel’s grave and our need for energy.
The technique being advocated mostly on this Blog is to turn the other cheek and let rockets fall down on your country. I also hear many folks here equating Israel’s situation with the Bush-American situation in Iraq. The big difference as you noted, are two:
–Israel is fighting for their homeland and have no other place to retreat to.
–Israel is fighting enemies that have sworn their destruction many times before and for a long time.
Under such circumstances where defeat is truly an ultimate defeat, you do not lose and you do not turn the other cheek. If the US had this mentality throughout its history, there would be no US now with all us bloggers acting like we know what the f__k is really going on! Sometimes you have to really fight to survive, and to Israelis, that time is NOW!
I’m sorry, but even though I consider myself a social liberal-fiscal conservative, I guess I am also not a total non-violent, turn the other cheek and pray advocate either!
this is totally absurd.
Israel has a problem on their northern border with occassional rocket attacks. They would like to make the problem go away, unfortunately, they have no obvious way of making the problem go away.
This idea that they are justified in doing something about it without any regard to whether it will fix the problem, not fix the problem, or makes the problem worse, is just insane.
Israel made the problem immeasurably worse. Bravo. It’s just gravy that they killed hundreds of innocent people and alienated their closest ally from our our regional allies. F’ing brilliant and totally justified.
Me thinks you minimuze too much for your viewpoints to be credible. Why don’t we just wait and see if Israel’s actions are so fruitless and leave them less secure.
Fighting for their “homeland”, eh?
No, they are fighting to keep the land that they forcefully took 50 years ago.
The last of the European conquests, that’s Israel.
If you want to go back in time, they did have a previous legitimate claim to this land before the Roman comquest. In more modern times, they also have no other place to go and be really at home before Israel was established. You cannot say that about too many other groups, including most Arabs.
North and South America were inhabited by Native Americans. Are we willing to relinquish it to re-establish their homeland?
If this policy were followed worldwide, it would wreak havoc. Sometimes, you can’t turn the clock back.
A “nation” is the land you were born in – it has the same root word as “pre-natal” (meaning “before birth”).
Although other nations have predominate, even official, religions, Israel is the only “nation” I know of that was created specifically to provide a religious group with “nationality”.
All of these modern “nations”, Serbia, Croatia, Bosnia, etc, that seek to divide themselves into ever-smaller groups, are doomed to fail.
Israel was the first of these. It has been a modern mistake & needs to be rectified.
We’ve seen this mindset before, here in our own country where right wing voices continually shout about the Islamofascist Menace in terms that approach apocalyptic rhetoric. It is the mindset of unrelenting tribal fear,
No. It is fear based upon a couple of thousand of years (or more) of being the world’s scapegoat. It did not begin with terrorism directed at Isreal. It did not begin with Hitler’s little enterprise which murdered 6 million Jews. It did not begin with the pogroms in Russia. It did not even begin with Spanish Inquisition. It began long before, perhaps when the conquerors carried off the remnants of the ancient country of Israel and the diaspora began. Nevertheless, unlike the needless fearmongering that goes on here, Jews have actually suffered at the hands of a variety of nations for a period of extended duration. To compare the Neocon crap put forth here to the experience of Isrealis/Jews does a great disservice. Americans, great students of history that they are, can’t even begin to imagine the suffering that gives rise to current Isreali actions. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not endorsing recent actions, but I do understand that what passes for fear here is not the same as what is happening in the minds of Isrealis.
As wingers are quick to say when they are called out on something, that’s ancient history, get over it already.
When it comes to Israel though we are constantly reminded of the tradgedy of the Haulocaust. And the Holocaust was a tradgedy and a crime of horrendous proportions. There’s no doubt about that.
What I think is another tradgedy if not a crime is that Israel keeps clinging to this mindset of being a victim.
To offer this mindset as a legitimate defense of the over-kill Israel is using in it’s “defence” blows the mind.
I don’t see that Boran2 offered that mindset as a legitimate defense of the Israels overkill. In fact, he stated plainly that…
….
So I don’t see your reason for this accusation. The rest of what you say, I agree with. The victimhood, etc. Personally, my biggest problem with a lot of the thinking there is this religious notion that they’re the chosen ones. But that could just be the Atheist in me speaking.
I didn’t say Boran2 himself explicitly offered this as a legitimate defence for the Israeli over-kill. What I’m bothered about though is that, even if he’s not endorcing the recent actions, by bringing up this pseudo-talk about a special Israeli mindset he falls into the trap of regarding that as a legitimate consideration for condoning every action Israel might take as long as they keep calling what they’re doing “defence”.
An excerpt os an editorial from The Daily Star from Lebanon:
Perhaps it is time for Israelis to shed themselves of the victim mentality they have been mired in, even if it’s been that way for thousands of years. Violence and blind brutality will never win permanent security for Israel… or for the US. I wonder how those moderate Lebanese fence sitters would have reacted if, instead of another civilian massacre, the news was that the Israelis and Palestinians had finally reached a two state solution?
“Perhaps it is time for Israelis to shed themselves of the victim mentality they have been mired in, even if it’s been that way for thousands of years.”
Indeeed one might ask if the lesson of 1000 years of oppression been merely that it is better to be the brutalizer than the brutalized.
Or are the Jews driven out because of this penchant to exact 100 to 1 retribution?
Maybe I’m just as “anti-semtic” as Mel Gibson but I am sick & tired of seeing babies with their heads blown off, or 12-year-olds reduced to a sack of meat, behind the war-cry “Never Again!”.
Or are the Jews driven out because of this penchant to exact 100 to 1 retribution?
Maybe I’m just as “anti-semtic” as Mel Gibson
wtf?