I am reminded of the old Buffalo Springfield song:
There’s something happening here
What it is ain’t exactly clear
Thanks to my benefactors, I’ve been able to watch different TV news channels than the hideously inept American ones. This morning I watched a BBC interview of Benjamin Netanyahu, who is currently in Britain trying to drum up support. I’m sure it’s on their website somewhere but I can’t find it myself.
To begin with, it’s almost jawdropping to see a journalist actually interview someone, as in ask hard questions. Netanyahu (who is technically a member of the opposition) was asked if he supported Olmert’s military and political strategies and gave a well-spun answer about wanting Hizb Allah destroyed. The BBC journalist then continued to ask him to answer the question posed, with Netanyahu eventually saying that any critical comments on his part would be given to Olmert in private. I think Netanyahu is putting a neocon spin on this war but that its NOT going according to his wishes.
Netanyahu seemed angry at being questioned so shrewdly but in essence he stuck to the message he came to give to the British people: Iran, Iran, Iran and Iran is to blame for everything. My other interpretation of what Netanyahu was expressing is that he seems angry that the fighting may come to an end (with the arrival of the international troops of whatever source) and indeed he stated that if Israel doesn’t crush Hizb Allah this time, they will next time.
Later today I saw Hassan Nasrullah (leader of Hizb Allah) give a very long televised speech. The outlet I saw this on was the American satellite broadcast of the LBC but I believe the original footage may have come from Hizb Allah’s own television station in Lebanon (although I’m not sure about that). Unfortunately I don’t know where the transcript of this or any of his previous speeches can be found on the internet.
I realize sometimes its hard to distinguish different Middle Eastern leaders from another, especially the bearded clerics who are leaders of an Islamic guerilla/terrorist group. Let me tell you that Nasrallah spoke (and this seems to be typical for him) in a fairly unemotional way. There wasn’t any yelling or pounding of fists. Furthermore there was a complete lack of hateful rhetoric, none of the “wiping all Jews off the map” kind of thing. Indeed Nasrallah stated several times that as soon as Israel stopped fighting and withdrew from Lebanon, all attacks by Hizb Allah would immediately cease.
From what I’ve read and seen of Nasrallah, he is an extremely intelligent man and is someone who reads and researches quite a lot. His message (broadcast worldwide including via the internet) was clearly designed to appeal to the pan-Arab, pan-Muslim world (actually to just about everybody). Nasrallah clearly put the blame foremost on the Bush administration for all of the fighting. He also essentially told the pro-American Arab leaders to be a man “for at least one day” and condemn Israel’s actions.
One tidbit from that speech I did see in other media reports was Nasrallah’s measured promise to strike Tel Aviv if Israel hits Beirut (which apparently Israel has already done). One tidbit I didn’t see otherwise reported was Nasrallah stating that Israel’s sort of weird, failed military operation in the Lebanese city of Baalbek was a snatch-and-grab of a completely innocent man whose sole “crime” was that his NAME is either Hassan Nasrullah or extremely similar to that.
In other words, the Israelis sent in a commando team and picked up a Hassan Nasrullah but it was completely the wrong guy. The real Hizb leader was taunting the Israelis for their intelligence failure but I recall that the same exact thing happened to another Lebanese man in 2003 (only in that case the mighty CIA was the one who goofed).
Nasrallah also taunted Olmert and said he was the “most incompetent and ignorant” Prime Minister that Israel has ever had. Oooh, zinger! The reason why this has got to sting is that so far Olmert is proving Nasrallah right. Nasrallah raised several valid points which, if one were cold-blooded and viewed war as a sport, would all be awarded to Hizb Allah:
- Olmert did state that Hizb Allah’s military capacity was almost completely destroyed – then later the same day and the next day, the number of rockets raining on Israel dramatically increased;
- Israel stated on several successive days that it had captured or was controlling Bint Jbeil – later they were forced to admit they had only surrounded it and were still engaged in heavy fighting;
- Israel has killed far more civilians (and non-combatant UN observers) than has Hizb Allah despite the fact that Hizb’s rockets are unguided while Israel is supposedly only hitting valid targets;
- Despite the Merkava tanks and advanced armor of the Israeli ground forces, somehow Hizb Allah has found a way to blow them up. This is a big part of the reason why the ground assault has done so poorly;
- Hizb Allah either sank or almost sank an Israeli naval vessel off the coast of Lebanon, which Israel initially denied and then later had to admit had occurred;
- And last but definitely not least, Hizb Allah abducted 2 Israeli soldiers and they have still not been freed or located. That was, after all, the initial spark to this whole conflict!
I should also mention here that Nasrallah made absolutely zero mention of Iran or any kind of “long live the Shi’ites”. Instead he repeatedly stated that all the Lebanese people were one and that Christians and Muslims should be united. I’m just stating this here for the record by the way, not as some pro-Hizb endorsement.
By the way if you can’t afford or can’t receive the extensive cable/satellite system necessary to view the BBC or LBC or those other channels with the real news, I think you can view a most of them on the internet if you’ve got a fairly good computer and a high speed connection.
Now as for Israel’s overall strategy, there seems to be two schools of thought in play amongst bloggers and the American mainstream media.
- Israel’s bombing of infrastructure and hospitals etc., is a calculated move designed to destabilize Lebanon, get international (and possibly American) troops involved, as part of a larger neocon strategy that was earlier worked out in secret between Cheney and Netanyahu; or
- Israel is the victim, first when 2 of its soldiers were kidnapped and later when hundreds/thousands of rockets began raining down on civilians in northern Israel. Israel has the right/need to defend itself and that includes destroying Hizb Allah, which is a certified terrorist organization.
Quite frankly I don’t think either of these is exactly right.
I understand where this is coming from, but Israel’s governments since day 1 have had a kind of non-evolving strategy that has now become frozen and non-adaptive. In 1948, when the Jewish minority declared the independence of Israel, the nation was almost wiped out by a combined (but hideously inept) invasion by all of its neighbors.
Israel just barely managed to “win” that war (as if wars were games and there are ever any real winners) and the mentality ever since has been “one slip up and our enemies will wipe us out”. It’s a deadly combination of righteous victimhood and hyper-aggressive, offensive military against any and all perceived threats. Again, I understand how this way of thinking developed, but it has ceased to evolve over time and is in danger of destroying Israel right as we speak.
That’s because Israel’s strategy is a “one trick pony” = one defeat and it is over. Israel has caused and/or permitted the entire Middle East (and the entire world apart from the USA) to polarize and harden its views to the point today where it is difficult to find any ordinary citizen on the street to have a positive image of Israel in any way, shape or form.
This is a result of two complimentary systems. One is Israel’s perceived victimhood and that it must arm every grandma to the teeth or else it will be overwhelmed by a sea of hostile neighbors. Feeding into that and bolstering it is the fact that the Arab (and Iranian) governments are heavily repressive of their own people, but use the plight of the Palestinians and an inflammation of anti-Semite/anti-Zionist sentiment to get away with their policies. Israel (rightly) always points to how many millions of Palestinians live in Arab countries, including Lebanon, forced to huddle inside squalid refugee camps and denied citizenship.
These two systems are self-stoking – they feed on one another parasitically. Iran or Syria or Hizb Allah will make anti-Zionist or anti-Israeli statements. Israel will say, “see? they all hate us and want to destroy us”. And therefore Israel feels forced to military dominate and intimidate both its internal Arab population as well as that of its neighbors. Which then adds fuel to the repressive governments of Egypt or Iran saying, “see how they are? They are the enemy!” and lather, rinse and repeat ad infinitum.
So about 3 weeks ago, Hizb Allah did exactly what it told the entire world it would do: capture Israeli soldiers (ahem, not civilians) alive (in Israel) precisely so they could be exchanged for Lebanese citizens (some of which are civilians, ahem) captured by Israel (on Lebanese soil). There was no shock or “escalation” here. The shock came from the fact that a pursuing Israeli Merkava tank was blown up by Hizb Allah (on Lebanese soil) and the entire 6-man crew was killed. Since Israel has maintained a policy of “we can’t lose, not even once”, the combination of 2 soldiers kidnapped AND 1 tank destroyed meant an overwhelming military response was now in order.
So far, this was an entirely predictable response from Israel. If they had poured ground troops into southern Lebanon and/or dropped bombs/missiles on Hizb Allah targets in the south, it would’ve been more of the “same old, same old”. But they didn’t. Somehow, some way, Olmert was convinced into authorizing general strikes against ALL of Lebanon, including purely civilian targets like bridges and power plants. This is where I get completely confused.
I’ve seen some talking heads in the American media saying that Israel fell for the “Chalabi Gambit”, somehow being misled into thinking a general invasion of Lebanon would unite the Druze, Christians and Sunnis against Hezb Allah. But I don’t believe it – there’s not a Middle Eastern politician alive, Turkish, Kurdish, Sunni or otherwise who would get more mileage out of being pro-Israel AND against a domestic organization than being anti-Israel. No way do I believe it – Israeli leaders believe every Arab is out to get them.
Why did Israel do it, then? Why attack hospitals and civilian residential blocks in Qana and UN outposts? Why do this when it not only crystallized the Middle Eastern/Muslim world against Israel but it is also sapping Israel’s support amongst ordinary Americans?
After 50 some years of outfoxing and outflanking its opponents, there’s a belief that Israel’s leadership is nearly invincible. That if Israel does something it must somehow be part of their calculated strategy to survive and thrive. But in this case I think Israel is NOT acting upon some strategy but RE-ACTING. Someone’s blood got to boiling and they began issuing orders that weren’t thought out and gameplayed by cooler heads first. Somebody ordered the Israeli military to hurt Lebanon and that’s why it’s been hitting those easy targets like bridges and power plants.
In my mind I get the image of someone pouting and screaming in frustration, pounding their fists and demanding to hit Lebanon anywhere and everywhere because they are absolutely driven mad with frustration because they cannot 1) stop Hizb Allah rockets, 2) rescue their soldiers and 3) conduct a blitzkrieg, “normal style” ground campaign using heavy armor. Right now I believe that “someone” is Olmert himself although I may be wrong. It may be that this “someone” is egging on Olmert or whispering in his ear. Either way, it is pushing Israel to the brink because it literally cannot afford to lose this war. By “lose” I don’t mean Hizb Allah marching into Jerusalem, I mean “lose” in the sense of a boxer losing a title fight on the points, rather than a more dramatic knockout.
I’m quite afraid that desperate men will commit desperate acts, and that Israel will do something even more stupid if it feels like it has lost too much “face” vis-a-vis Hizb Allah. But I shall pray and hope that someone, somewhere, in either DC or Tel Aviv, can find a sane path out of this forest of insanity.
Pax
As I said in another comment, Israeli children to this day is brought up in a victim mentality and are living the holocaust each and every day if only in their minds. I think that’s one of the real crimes here.
“I mean ‘lose’ in the sense of a boxer losing a title fight on the points, rather than a more dramatic knockout.”
Could also read: I mean “win” in the sense of a champion boxer not able to knock out his inferior opponent in the first round, but winning a title fight on points, or worse, through interference of the referee because of a bloodied eyebrow.
Have you read about the Iranean Jewish Commanding General (IAF), Major General Dan Halutz, and his call, admitting war crimes against the civilian population of Palestinians, as the record clearly shows since 2001 and the Ariel Sharon – George Bush alliance came into existence. The Jewish lobby claims a moral right to kill civilians, see works of Alan Dershowitz.
Fellow commanding officers experienced the defeat of the Lebanon occupation and Israeli withdrawal at the hands of the Hizbollah as young officers, wanting to set the record straight in the war today under the inexperienced Olmert and Peretz. Similar to Bush II as early as Cheney commanded in his transitional administration, set to oust Saddam Hussein at the first chance or provocation, because of the assassination attempt on daddy in Kuwait and the failure to go into Baghdad in 1991 (Cheney – Rumsfeld – Powell).
Syria sponsors the Hezbollah in a common cause to reach a final agreement with Israel on the Shaba’a Farms and Golan Heights – see my diary The Borders of Auschwitz. This was confirmed yesterday in a radio interview I followed on a Dutch network, Syria would apply political pressure on the Hezbollah in exchange for a final agreement and the return of the occupied Golan Heights, a prisoner swap and the Israeli map with locations of landmines in Lebanon and on the Syrian border.
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Syria sponsors the Hezbollah in a common cause to reach a final agreement with Israel on the Shaba’a Farms and Golan Heights – see my diary The Borders of Auschwitz. This was confirmed yesterday in a radio interview I followed on a Dutch network, Syria would apply political pressure on the Hezbollah in exchange for a final agreement and the return of the occupied Golan Heights, a prisoner swap and the Israeli map with locations of landmines in Lebanon and on the Syrian border
Syria has been trying for a LONG time to get back SF/Golan and part of that strategy has been a kind of slow, semi-secret plan of playing ball with the American administration (esp GWB). That’s something that’d shock FOX NEWS viewers but nevertheless, it’s true.
Syria also kept its head down and swallowed 1559 entirely, something for which it isn’t given much credit. And I’ll tell you what, that strategy is increasingly making Al-Assad (junior)’s tenure quite fragile.
The last thing the ME needs is for some kind of coup or junta to topple him. But then again, the last thing the ME needed was a repeat of the 1982 invasion of Lebanon either.
Pax
Syria has been a destination for some of the CIAs extraordinary rendition flights.
here.
I’m not sure of the accuracy or simple coincidence but I’m relatively sure I saw that a relative of Maher Arar was a teenage victim at Jenin. Arar was the Syrian/Canadian citizen who endured an extraordinary rendition through several countries in that area.
It seems Israel once strong bargaining position is being weakened vis-a-vis Hezbollah, Syria and Iran.
Hezbollah as far as the Arab world and mopst of the rest have won already. For three weeks their 3000fighters have not only held off the once omnipotent Israeli army but inflicted damage, hit Israel repeatedly with rockets and easily won the PR war.
Syria who Israel probably now wishes hadnt been forced out of Lebanon have some influence over Hezbollah to peddle if they get something in return although that influence is now reduced after leaving Lebanon.
Iran also has influence over Hezbollah to peddle in return for something.
Israel has seen its mighty army humiliated to the point where Arab men interviewed on the BBC World today in Tyre said last time the Israelis came everyone was scared and ran. Now having seen what Hezbollah have done many people are not scared and are willing to fight for their country. This is a big long term blow to Israel. The fear of the Israeli army has ben a big factor in Middle east politics for a long time. That it has been exposed as just another western army unwilling to take the casualties required is huge. In addition Israel has lost the PR war totally. Outside the US and Israel virtually everybody is seeing Israel as some kind of genocidal pariah state bent on massacring kids and civilians and anyone elese who gets in the way.
The other big loser is of course our once great United States. By siding with Israel in its massacres of kids while not seeing any benefit in a ceasefire not only defies logic but also has destroyed whatever deluded remaining vestige of US neutrality any in the Arab world still had. This whole policy of Israel first in the extreme is bizarre to say the least when we have many troops and civilians in places like Iraq and Afghanistan. In fact that the US government would put the interests of Israel’s government before the interests of its own people including a hundred thousand or so troops is insane.
So when it all comes to diplomacy, negotiation, bargaining or call it what you will ( you know that non-military stuff that the 2 governments ignore) the US and Israel will find themselves in a lot weaker position than they were a month ago.
Excellent comment.
“the Israelis sent in a commando team and picked up a Hassan Nasrullah but it was completely the wrong guy. “
Here’s 14 yr old Mohammed Hassan Nasrallah’s account of how he, his father, and 4 others were snatched in the middle of the night by Israeli commandos in Baalbeck.
The four others reportedly included Hasan Din Nasrallah, a grocer.
Thanks for the link! Unbelievable story..
Pax
something from an Evelyn Waugh book I read some time ago.
Hmm,
(from the link Nag provided)
“They untied me, kicked me in the back and told me to go away,” he said.
…
“I started running with my slippers. There was an armed drone which was firing around me. I was not hit, but I was injured by a flying piece of rock in my back. I hid in the first empty house that I saw,” he said.
So the tough guy Israelis release a kid only to use him as target practice. Nice guys.
talk about the irony. I’m going to remember this the next time a gung-ho Israel supporter tells me “But Hizbollah/Iran/Palestine wants to DESTROY Israel. Don’t you understand?”
great post, btw.
I just have a hard time believing that Israel would re-act like this without prior coordination and approval from the United States. The talking points were all line up (World War III), Cheney did meet with Netanyahu, Netanyahu and Peres are on speaking tours. I don’t think this was a pure blunder. For one thing, we’ve been predicting something like this would happen now, for a year. To see our predictions come true and think it is an accident is tough to believe.
Well the WW3 talking points et al DO line up, but again I still think there’s this tendency to always believe everything Israel does is well-coordinated ahead of time.
Is it conceivable that SOME of what occurred was planned? Yes. But I just don’t see how that jibes with the number of unexpected things that there’s no way possible could’ve been part of their calculations – that Israeli armor would be nullified and that Israeli soldiers would be kidnapped alive AND that after 3 weeks Israel would be unable to even locate them. Are you telling me the rounding up of those civilian Nasrallah’s was serving some kind of plan?
I dont see it. I just dont see it. I give full credit for Israel’s leadership for keeping their country able to project tremendous power for 50 plus years but this here… is a disaster for Israel.
Pax
Israel obviously knew they would have to occupy southern Lebanon again. They obviously knew that their public didn’t support that. They obviously knew that there would be calls for an international peacekeeping force.
They have made sure no such force is even possible, and they never wanted such a force. Add it up.
This is a way to put Americans a few miles from Damascus, and to make sure we get the hell kicked out of us. And it had prior approval at the highest levels. That is what I believe. Assad will be gone before 2009.
This is a way to put Americans a few miles from Damascus, and to make sure we get the hell kicked out of us.
Enough so to “postpone” the Nov. elections?
I’m a little confused by your statement, Boo — America gets the hell kicked out of us, and Assad will be gone before 2009?
I don’t have trouble believing that the whole thing was planned out or at least gamed and wished for, but the neocon plan seems to define hubris – I don’t see “us” (as in America) being able to execute this successfully.
the plan is highly risky. In my opinion, it is insanely risky. But, yes, the plan is, in my opinion, to redo 1983, but this time we don’t cut and run. This time we finish the job. We can the hell kicked out of us and we respond with overwhelming force on Syria at a minimun, and perhaps Iran. But focus on the minimum. We eliminate the Iran’s beachhead in southern Lebanon and force a coup in Syria.
Assad is probably as close to “moderate” as you could get in Syria. Unless you want another junta – say an 80s vintage Saddam. Kind of makes the US policy until now look a bit ridiculous. But then again, it always was about national interest.
Also, why in the hell would staying in Lebanon make any difference? It doesn’t change who the people in Lebanon are. It doesn’t change demographics, hearts and minds.
Israel obviously knew they would have to occupy southern Lebanon again. They obviously knew that their public didn’t support that. They obviously knew that there would be calls for an international peacekeeping force.
Who are you referring to here specifically when you say “Israel”, as opposed to the “public” ie ordinary citizens of Israel? Netanyahu? Olmert? Peres?
They have made sure no such force is even possible, and they never wanted such a force. Add it up.
Let me see if I get this right. This was all a sneaky plan to get Israel to re-occupy southern Lebanon even though the Israeli public was against that?
Pax
No. A sneaky plan to get America to occupy southern Lebanon. Keep watching.
Oooooohhhh… well gosh I had no idea. Americans in Lebanon, are you sure?
I guess we’ll wait and see but I sure can’t see that happening, I just can’t!
Pax
well soj, think about it.
International force:
So, there will be no international force, there will be an American force. Alone.
The plan from the beginning.
Make sense now?
Because nothing else makes sense.
And I gotta ask…with what army?! I mean, they’re redeploying troops to Baghdad, the National Guard is broken…
good question, but we have not yet begun to mobilize as a nation.
I just don’t think…I don’t think BushCo has enough political capital left to pull it off. Say they started a draft. I think a majority of American people have had enough of Middle Eastern wars already. To expand troop strength enough to occupy Lebanon or Syria or Iran on top of the clusterfuck in Iraq? People have been pretty complacent on the surface – no massive demonstrations – but underneath that is a lot of worry about the direction of the country, particularly about the war in Iraq.
If BushCo tries to broaden the war, I think people are going to get really angry.
You know, fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice…we won’t get fooled again!
This will be the perfect time to introduce PMCs as a paid, armed, supposedly unbiased military peacekeeping force. Avoid the draft and leave the combat to professionals. Iraq is getting too crazy and the supply (profitability) of PMCs are too great to let sit and gather dust.
Believe me, I AM thinking about it but this is grandiose beyond anything I can imagine. American troops in Lebanon? As I said, I just don’t see it, not in 2006 anyway.
I sure hope I’m right and not just for my ego but because it is an insane plan!
Pax
Assad won’t be gone. Israel refuses to do so for national security purposes. What comes after Assad will be a lot, lot worse, and Israel knows this – I’ve read and heard this from a number of sources I trust a lot. It’d probably be the Muslim Brotherhood or a failed state like Iraq, with lots of terrorists breeding.
Its not to say Assad going would be impossible. But it would be some sort of internal coup/revolution. There will NOT be an invasion of Syria. I think American airstrikes on Iran have about a 40% chance of occuring. Action on Syria is less than 10%.
Great diary and comments. There is so much here to consider.
Has anyone looked at a few other seemingly unrelated factors? The past many years, but the past six years especially, have been quite active for renditions with both victims and participating countries in the area. I don’t have the link but it seems that the soldiers’ abduction was soon after the SCOTUS decision on Hamdan or general rights of captives. Considering the countries that are unusually complicit in allowing this mass bombing – specific civilian areas and considering who is likely directing/allowing time for more, could this also be a way to destroy old evidence? I had seen mentioned that Jose Padilla’s lawyers were caught up in Lebanon while gathering defense evidence. It wouldn’t be solely for this, but several others with cases pending might also apply. Also, if precedent is set in Intl court for crimes of rendition or illegal prisoner treatment, wouldn’t many practices of the SLA be suspect during their long period of control? Is there more to the Hariri death that might be exposed?
Whatever the reason. what’s been given to explain the massive destruction doesn’t seem to fit completely.
As I said in the main article, there’s a real tendency to interpret everything Israel does as part of being some sneaky, undeclared master plan of theirs. A lot of times that IS right, and in this case it may be true, but I just don’t feel in my gut that it is.
Hariri and who really blew up the US barracks in 1983 is another story altogether.
Pax
There’s a difference between blaming Israel for a sneaky plan and considering the possibility of a few powerful decisionmakers being opportunistic for ulterior motives. Aren’t some of the best behavior control specialists involved behind the scenes?
I guess I’m thinking of that scene in the movie “Field of Dreams”, where Ray Liotta is giving batting advice to the rookie, analyzing to predict the next probable pitch (high, low, curveball, etc), but admonishing him to still watch out for one aimed to hit him in the head.
What I’m saying is of course people have ulterior motives and decisions are made for a variety of reasons but sometimes even the smartest people’s plans go haywire. Or more crudely, sometimes shit just gets super fucked up.
Perfect example of what I’m talking about is Operation Eagle Claw.
Pax
Soj, Could you elaborate on connections you might suspect between the murder of Rafiq Hariri in 2005 and the bombing of the U.S. Marines in 1983? That is, aside from the obvious arrow pointing at the Ba’athists.
Uh, no. I mean I can but I won’t. This thread is already rife with paranoia as it is.
The UN published two extensive reports concerning their investigation into Hariri and those are online and in English.
I haven’t heard anything about Ba’athists being involved with 1983 barracks bombing (of the US or French). The “common wisdom” in that attack is that it was conducted by Hizb Allah. Ba’athists are secular while the “Allah” in Hizb allah means just what it looks like.
Pax
You make a dark suggestion, then claim to say more would be to encourage paranoia. I don’t find that persuasive.
I’m aware of the UN reports on Hariri, I’m aware of what Hezbollah means, and I’m perfectly aware that the Ba’athists are secular. I’ve had many law clients from Syria and Lebanon. No need to condescend.
You said there was a link between the 1983 and 2005 events. I don’t think you’re unwilling to talk about that due to an interest in restraining paranoia. I suspect there just isn’t anything to the idea at all.
I wasn’t trying to condescend, really. And I’m not trying to persuade. I just believe those two events were engineered in contrast with the current situation, which I believe was largely unplanned and unexpected by ALL parties.
Pax
Here it is:
Shoeless Joe Jackson: The first two were high and tight, so where do you think the next one’s gonna be?
Archie Graham: Well, either low and away, or in my ear.
Shoeless Joe Jackson: He’s not gonna wanna load the bases, so look low and away.
Archie Graham: Right.
Shoeless Joe Jackson: But watch out for in your ear.
Pax