As if we didn’t already know that last week’s “foiled terrot plot” wasn’t bogus, it turns out even the science of mixing harmless-looking liquids together to make a bomb is fallacious as well:
While it’s true that a slapdash concoction will explode, it’s unlikely to do more than blow out a few windows. At best, an infidel or two might be killed by the blast, and one or two others by flying debris as the cabin suddenly depressurizes, but that’s about all you’re likely to manage under the most favorable conditions possible.
[T]he Hollywood myth of binary liquid explosives now moves governments and drives public policy. We have reacted to a movie plot. Liquids are now banned in aircraft cabins (while crystalline white powders would be banned instead, if anyone in charge were serious about security). Nearly everything must now go into the hold, where adequate amounts of explosives can easily be detonated from the cabin with cell phones, which are generally not banned.
Meanwhile the dauntless heroes of the TSA announced just on Thursday that their intrepid security officers found two containers with “explosive residue” in a carry-on bag in West Virginia.
Unfortunately the “explosive” turned out to be nothing more than ordinary facial cleanser but luckily, the entire airport was evacuated, giving TSA officials a chance to scare all the white folks in Huntington because a Pakistani woman wearing a headscarf was trying to fly.
Across the ocean, our dauntless British ally is now “encouraging” passengers to not even bring empty bottles on board. Who knows what sinister and dastardly deeds can be performed with an empty bottle!
Pax
is all so pathetic. It’s just depressing.
They have published a delightfully entertaining story about this plot called “Five Years of Terror.” It carries a higher count of might haves, may haves, apparently and maybes than most of their reportage. They quote the usual number of officials who decline to be named to tell the story.
But wait! – there’s more. To be continued…It’s all showbiz.
We are truly in the Age of Bullshit.
I’m not sure how credible the site you quoted is. Well, you could make a liquid bomb aboard a plane. Here is the report which does not limit the possible device the plot may have used:
So they don’t know if it was TATP. Or Fixor. What’s Fixor? Here’s a description, from its maker:
So, while I’m as frustrated at bogus accounts of terror as anyone, I’m not going to dismiss this story based on one guys description of a single binary explosive type. There are others, and some of them really are as simple as mixing liquid with powder.
Oops. Meant to include this poster.
And you cannot talk people into smashing airplanes into buildings either.
Ignition of simple binery weapons does not even require an iPod but only the battery.
The title of this thread is patently contradictory to the text. The text is heartless and inhumane in its cynicism. PAX says you cannot build the weapon but the does says you can.
“At best, an infidel or two might be killed by the blast, and one or two others by flying debris as the cabin suddenly depressurizes, but that’s about all you’re likely to manage under the most favorable conditions possible.”
The text is heartless and inhumane in its cynicism. If I were one of the people onboard such a victimized aircraft I would not consider this as dismissively as the writer does.
Bottom line is that, even a small amatuer weapon can bring down a jet plane is accidentially placed right in the craft. I am happy to dismiss this British conspiracy if it is proven to be blow hard bullshit out of Blair and Bush. But the concept of both the weapon and the method of the conspiracy is the free standing off the shelf model that the alQaeda trains people into. The modern ‘off the shelf’ method of operation, by the way, was perfected by Ollie North while working for William Casey.
In 1994, did not RamziYousef almost bring down a plane using liquid explosives?
The only error he made was the placement of the explosive. He missed the fuel tank by a few rows.
Please correct me if I’m wrong.
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TERRORISTS are “rolling around the caves of Pakistan, laughing” at Britain’s response to the terror threat, an airline boss said last night as he gave the government a seven-day deadline to relax restrictions or face legal action.
Ryanair boss Michael O’Leary described some of the security measures as “farcical, Keystone Kops-like and completely insane and ineffectual”.
Pilots also attacked the measures, which ban them from taking toothpaste on to aircraft, and said subjecting flight crews to the same restrictions as passengers made “no sense at all”.
An estimated 800,000 passengers have been disrupted by the chaos caused by new measures, which resulted in massive queues at airports and led to the cancellations of about 1,800 flights.
Rich pickings for looters of lost luggage
"But I will not let myself be reduced to silence."▼ ▼ ▼ MY DIARY
i dont get the point of all this bedwetting behavior/news :
of course you can make binary-bomb but frankly i want to blow my plane, i just but a nice bomb in my luggage with a timer or pressure-system, it will go unchecked !!!
noone are checking your luggage, what is the point to scare everyone (in insulting asian/arabs with all the targeted checks) with this mess at the airports.
just another sham
The point is to scapegoat people and spread the notion that “we” are fighting against “them”.
There’s always a “them” in a totalitarian regime.
As far as bombs go, I worry more about the folks who bring their very sharp and very long knitting needles onto airplanes rather than someone carrying a tiny tube of Blistex.