Originally posted at Liberal Street Fighter
That conman owner of the DailyKog has vomited up some crap on Cato Unbound:
The Case for the Libertarian Democrat
by Markos Moulitsas
It was my fealty to the notion of personal liberty that made me a Republican when I came of age in the 1980s. It is my continued fealty to personal liberty that makes me a Democrat today.
The case against the libertarian Republican is so easy to make that I almost feel compelled to stipulate it and move on. It is the case for the libertarian Democrat that has created much discussion and not a small amount of controversy when I first introduced the notion in what was, in reality, a throwaway blog post on Daily Kos on a slow news day in early June 2006.
Well, weren’t many of us TRUE lefties banned from his little party-owned site for POINTING OUT that they were pushing for Republican values, that indeed Markog, the writers he supports and many of the candidates he flogs for ARE REPUBLICANS?
Wait, it gets better:
But that post—as coarse, raw, and incomplete as it was—touched a surprising nerve. It generated the predictable criticism from libertarian circles (Reason and several Cato scholars piled on) as well as from conservatives who perhaps recognized their own slipping grasp of libertarian principles but were unwilling to cede any ground to a liberal. But more surprising (and unexpected) to me was the positive reaction: there’s a whole swath of Americans who are uncomfortable with Republican/conservative efforts to erode our civil liberties while intruding into our bedrooms and churches; they don’t like unaccountable corporations invading their privacy, holding undue control over their economic fortunes, and despoiling our natural surroundings; yet they also don’t appreciate the nanny state, the over-regulation of small businesses, the knee-jerk distrust of the free market, or the meddlesome intrusions into mundane personal matters.
Like me, these were people who didn’t instinctively reject the ability of government to protect our personal liberties, who saw government as a good, not an evil, but didn’t necessarily see the government as the source of first resort when seeking solutions to problems facing our country. They also saw the markets as a good, not an evil, but didn’t necessarily see an unregulated market run amok as a positive thing. Some of these were reluctant Republicans, seeking an excuse to abandon a party that has failed them. Others were reluctant Democrats, looking for a reason to fully embrace their party. And still others were stuck in the middle, despairing at their options—despondent at a two-party system in which both parties were committed to Big Government principles.
If you really want or need that view of the world, go read something John Danforth says pretty much the same thing, only he’s a better writer and a hell of a lot smarter. What Markos represents is the ineffective and whipped-like-dogs Rockefeller Republicans trying to take over the Democratic Party because they were unable to hold onto their own. Sadly, the Democratic Party is run by DLC corporatist lapdogs, Blue Dogs and ineffective used-to-be liberals like Kerry and Kennedy who have internalized the idea that it’s better to go along than to actually FIGHT for something. Having lost their party, they are eagerly pursuing ownership over the other party. Yes, both parties are owned and run by rightwingers. There is no real institutional left anymore.
In essence, what we’re watching now is a proxy fight for control of the company board of this one party “state” we used to call a free nation. It is a fight between stockholders who support the current rape-and-pillage style of management represented by the Republicans, and a smaller group who think that their chance of improved “returns” on their “investments” would be better served by less extreme management. We no longer have a representative government, we have a giant corporation, and for most of us being born here only counts as a fractional share. We have no influence on management decisions. They will withdraw our proxies if it serves “management’s” interests.
The little gate-crasher says in his coming-out-as-a-Rethug piece:
Embracing the market
My libertarian tendencies have always found a welcome home in the Silicon Valley culture (and in all of the nation’s great technology centers). It is a place where hard work and good ideas trump pedigree, money, the color of one’s skin, nationality, sex, or any of the artificial barriers to entry in most of the rest of the world. It is a techno-utopia that, while oft-criticized for a streak of self-important narcissism, still today produces the greatest innovations in technology in the world. Where else could such a motley collection of school dropouts, nerds, brown people (mostly Indian), and non-Native English speakers (mostly Chinese), not just rise to the top of their game, but dominate it? This is free market activity seemingly at its best, and it works precisely because these individuals are able to take risks and be judged by the results of their work, rather than be judged by who they are, where they’ve been, or who they know.
But there are other reasons why this outpost of libertarianism works. The government has put in an infrastructure to support the region including, among many other things, roads, the Internet, government research grants, and the most important ingredient of all: education, from the lowliest kindergarten to the highest post-doc program. Such spending, while requiring a government bureaucracy that makes a traditional libertarian shudder, actually provides the tools that individuals need to succeed in today’s world. If our goal is to promote and champion individual liberty and the free market, we need government to help provide those tools to all Americans, not just a privileged few. This isn’t a question of equality, it’s one of opportunity. Some people will take advantage of those opportunities, and others will not. That will be up to each individual. But without opportunity, there is no freedom.
There is also no individual freedom if corporations aren’t forced to provide the kind of accountability necessary to ensure we make proper purchasing or investment decisions. For example, public corporations are regulated to ensure that investors have accurate data upon which to base their trading decisions. If investors can’t trust the information given by corporations, the stock markets couldn’t function. If the stock markets couldn’t function, our current market system would collapse. Matters such as deceptive advertising, labeling, and some safety regulations are also important. Does anyone doubt that requiring food companies to label ingredients and nutritional data doesn’t enhance our liberties by giving us the information we need to make informed decisions?
On the flip side, much of what’s known as “corporate welfare” is not designed to protect personal liberties. Rather it rewards inefficiencies in the market and the politically connected. Intellectual property law protections, constantly extended at the behest of Walt Disney in service to its perpetual Mickey copyright, have created a corporate stranglehold over information in an era where information is currency. Patent law allows companies like Amazon to patent simple and obvious “business processes” like “one-click shopping,” which they protect with armies of lawyers and deep pockets. In the non-virtual sphere, cities use eminent domain to strip property owners of their rights on behalf of private developers.
So a “free” market needs rules (“regulation”) in order to function. And such rules should be welcome so long as they are designed to enhance and protect our personal liberties.
Got that everybody? This isn’t a free nation with a representative government that exists to provide for individuals to live their lives in freedom while pursuing their own particular brand of happiness, it’s a big company that needs an authoritarian structure to order our lives so that we can make and buy stuff. There’s no public square, only a big corporate campus. His twisted celebration of Silicon Valley “culture” is laughable, as it glosses over all of the class, racial and educational inequities that built that very sheltered and often hostile world.
This is what we’ve come to … BOTH of our parties owned by militaristic greedheads seeking to preserve the inequitable status quo. True lefties in office should declare themselves Independents and form a third caucus, starting the hard work of building a real party that will fight for the people. Perhaps Dr. Dean can join them after they drum him out of the party leadership, blaming him for the upcoming disappointing returns in the mid-term election next month. It is plain that any real work is going to have to start locally and build from there, because the national parties are wholly owned subsidiaries of international corporation, and hack consultants like Markos will do everything they can to prevent a genuine debate to happen within the parties.
As Bill Moyers wrote recently:
When it comes to selling influence, both parties have defined deviancy up, and Tony Soprano himself couldn’t get away with some of the things that pass for business as usual in Washington. We have now learned that Jack Abramoff had almost 500 contacts with the Bush White House over the three years before his fall, and that Karl Rove and other presidential staff were treated to his favors and often intervened on his behalf. So brazen a pirate would have been forced to walk the plank long ago if Washington had not thrown its moral compass overboard.
Alas, despite all these disclosures, nothing is happening to clean up the place. Just as the Republicans in charge of the House kept secret those dirty emails sent to young pages by Rep. Mark Foley—a cover-up aimed at getting them past the election and holding his seat for the party—they are now trying to sweep the DeLay-Abramoff-Reed-and-Norquist scandals under the rug until after Nov. 7, hoping the public at large doesn’t notice that the House is being run by Tom DeLay’s team, minus DeLay. All the talk about reform is placebo.
The only way to counter the power of organized money is with organized and outraged people. Believe me, what members of Congress fear most is a grassroots movement that demands clean elections and an end to the buying and selling of influence—or else! If we leave it to the powers that be to clean up the mess that greed and chicanery have given us, we will wake up one day with a real Frankenstein of a system—a monster worse than the one created by Abramoff, DeLay and their cronies. By then it will be too late to save Lincoln’s hope for “government of, by, and for the people.”
It’s going to be a long, hard fight, one which may very well take as long as the suffrage, civil rights and labor movements took. Remember, though, that if you really want a humanitarian, peaceful and just society, fake “progressives” like Markos are part of the problem. At least he finally admitted it.
not a liberal, barely “progressive”, a conman and hack.
I would, of course, xpost this over there if I could.
I strongly agree with this post. It’s really an amazing con, Daily Kos. How many of the faithful still on dKos would tolerate the idea that they are being coopted to Rockefeller Republicanism? Not one! They’re like a cult.
I think this post of Madman’s is pretty clever.
Frankly, I long for the Rockefeller Republicans to return, because many of them are decent people, unlike the monsters who now control the government. But who wants to be a Republican? They’re still Republicans!
I’ve always thought that anybody who called himself a “libertarian” was simultaneously pretentious and ignorant. I’ve known some Ivy Leaguer libertarians, and they were about the sloppiest thinkers I have ever debated. I think “libertarianism” is a half-cooked effort to be a Democrat and a Republican at the same time, while pretending to be superior to the masses. It’s a position for middle brow losers who want to be elite.
I’m a Yellow Dog Democrat. I ALWAYS vote, and I ALWAYS vote for the D. I have NEVER voted for a non-D. I’d sooner lose my eye and my hand. I have always thought that the most principled approach in this society was to vote a straight-line Democratic ticket, without exception (while, of course, being prepared to remove Democrats like Lieberman).
But in times of dismay over some Democratic positions, I’ve actually spent a lot of time studying libertarian web sites. I’ve always come away amazed that anyone would fall for that half-cooked slop.
It’s like “MENSA.” In college, my friends and I always called it “DENSA”–only people really fundamentally dense would join MENSA and think that proved they were smart. TRUE intellectual giants, like me and my friends, would never join such a vulgar group. It would be almost as ignominious as joining the scientologists. (Apologies to any earnest MENSA members here!)
That’s the same attitude I’ve always had about libertarians.
Madman’s criticism here is fair and correct.
thanks.
I’ve voted for an Independent or two (Nader, for one). I’ve held my nose for a lot of Democrats.
There have been times w/ I’ve thought about Libertarianism. I think victimless “crimes” should legalized, for example, but the weird twisted anything-goes-social-darwinism that passes for Libertarian “thought” always drives me nuts.
Another thanks.
BTW, so did I. No more of the latter though. I am giving serious thought to write-ins, and leaving part of the ballot blank.
(Off-topic, but I hate these damned time release things!)
Dkos are like any other group. You have the disaffected repubs who have become “made over” and they are somewhat like Kos. Each of them trying to find a way in a new land. Then there are the progressives who are, like you, apt to get banned if the line is crossed. And then there are the jounalistic types who are there for the news stories and keep those going.
I think that dKos presented a service, especially to the latter. A lot of the news threads were made and kept going there. And that we definitely needed as the MSM are so corrupt and inept.
Nothing is perfect in this world. We have to be able to accept that nobody is exactly like us and learn to enjoy the fact.
well,it’s more than that. It’s a con, an attempt to manufacture consent for the behavior of a corrupt party and for a move to the right by the party that only a few decades ago fought for the Civil Rights Acts, for Choice … now just another part of the corporate war machine.
He has pretended to be a liberal to gain influence in a corrupt party structure. The debate there used to be vital, and his now-successful business grew on the back of that (formerly) active debate.
I have no problem w/ sincere former Republicans who’ve seen the error of their “gov’t is teh evil” ways. What I object to is Republicans converting the party of the left into a new Republican party by leveraging the corrupt influence of big money on our politics.
kos as a “liberal”. He has wanted influence yes. And he has worked to that end yes. And he has enjoyed the fruits of his labor there, in as much as he gets some attention from both the media and the candidates. But madman, conning requires that you intentionally work to give somebody else an illusion. I don’t think he has done that. I do think he has conned himself somewhat. And if others have gotten conned along with him that still wouldn’t have been him conning so much as others conning themselves along with him.
Look, he wants to be admired and respected. And his banning people seems to stem from that desire. I think he will take disagreement, but he wants the show to be more like vaudeville than burlesque, if you get my drift. He doesn’t want the down and dirty, he wants the elite effete! But it is his show to direct. He is paying the piper for that show with paying techies and such for the server and software support.
sadly, it’s not that benign. He’s referenced (and markets himself) as the liberal activist edge of the party, which automatically renders the rest of us as the furthest “fringe”. In fact, that site is called the fringe by the Republicans and the media’s talking heads, which leaves us genuine lefties where? Beyond the pale of polite political discussion, of course. His minions blunt enforcement of a center-right orthodoxy serves the Right’s purposes, and makes a broadening of the political discussion all the harder.
I’m not going to give him a pass by assuming that he doesn’t know exactly what he’s doing. He and his NDN buddies are nothing less than the same old DLC/Third Way idiots, and they are helping to destroy this country.
He’s not as benign as you’re claiming he is.
Even before I became aware of Kos’ declaration, which I thought I had read a lot longer ago than June, I knew he was no Democrat and I knew he was absolutely no progressive. That’s his choice. But for goodness sakes, it seems to me thoughtful people can hardly be conned into thinking you should ALWAYS VOTE FOR THE DEM, even when the Dem is just another version of the same slime and crap we already have in the Repugs.
Any of those who feel comfortable with the DLC picking our candidates. . .I wonder what actual thought you have given to your ideas of political candidates and where they come down on the issues of importance to you and to all of us in the country.
I think you all know what a bleeding-heart, left wing, socialist, progressive liberal I am, so I am not meaning to offend anyone. Just take that into consideration.
It is apparent that we have to throw out the current Democratic thinking party before we can do anything honestly in government. . .it has to come up from the people, not from the bought and paid for and groomed by corporations. No doubt it will take some time to build a new party, but we must.
Maybe we could rename ourselves the Grassroots party.
Good diary Madman!
something needs to happen.
Hell Yes! Madman, I’ve lurked here for a long time and I must say, your diaries are always spot on.
thank you for the high praise.
I nearly choked myself laughing when I read that diary over at dKos… But I always knew that dKos and the bulk of it’s front page was never the reason I was there to read. I have even given up on arguing with them in the comments since they will (generally) whip me in the ratings when I voice my “left of Kossack” opinions.
In the past he has always hinted at how far right he was. Over time he has truely fallen in line with third way/DLC/right-wing ideology. Just a slightly “lesser of two evils” IMHO.
About the only thing he has going for him is his win at all costs attitude and a very large website. And that does not make him an intelectual giant nor worthy of anyone’s serious attention from the real left.
There is little wonder why he is a corporate media darling.
BTW… Nice diary.
You critiqued Markos’ writing far better than I ever could. But I just had to add my outrage at this:
Silicon Valley culture… It is a place where hard work and good ideas trump pedigree, money, the color of one’s skin, nationality, sex, or any of the artificial barriers to entry in most of the rest of the world.
Ah yes, Silicon Valley as a place where women thrive in an enviroment where their hard work and ideas trump all else. Have any more fantasies for us Markos??? Pie anyone???
The danger is you don’t see it at first. He certainly doesn’t!
Two small points:
The issues facing the world and the US are so large that neither party has any idea how to address them. These include over population, declining raw material availability and climate change. Even someone like Gore who seems to understand the threats can only suggest “smart” growth instead of unconstrained growth. No one is willing to deal with the idea that growth has to cease for the developed world and be replaced by a sustainable economic and demographic model.
I was banned by Kos himself for advocating investigations into the the 2000/2004 election. Kos spots you on the site and suddenly one of his personal attack dogs like Armando or DHinMI is trailing you around the site cussing at evey post you make there. Eventually the Armandos and DHinMIs create enough of a sh*tstorm on the threads that your karma rating gets hammered down lower than the New Orleans levee system, and you get banned.
I never said the word “proof” in a single post. I don’t say the word “proof” because there hasn’t been any formal evidence gathering process. Anyone who can form a good argument on an issue that Kos disagree on gets assigned their own personal attack dog, and at that point, your days are numbered whether you break the so-called site rules or not.
Certain topics are taboo–like 9/11, and like election fraud. (I wonder how they are coping with the Princeton diebold-hacking guys. Even Fox News has had them on now.)
Of course you get plenty of warning. Your posts get routinely troll-rated into oblivion by his attack-dogs long before you actually get bounced.
I agree with you that there is no real Progressive movement, and this is surely a problem.
Markos is certainly responsible for the overall tone of his site, and he does have a stable of enforcers who regulate style, content, and permissible topics. And if the range is broad, the boundaries are sharp, as those who cross them well know. Unfortunately, restrictions on style do not include suppression of bullying behavior, which actually he favors. Occasionally, as in the Pie Wars, he engages in it himself.
I was cured of Libertarianism sometime before college. At best it is puerile, at worst it is a con. In a world where corporations are routinely stronger than governments, it is absurd to adopt a philosophy of the individual citizen defending his rights of what product to buy from the nefarious interference of the State. It is not that States cannot be tyrranical, it is that that is only the beginning of our problems.
Perhaps it is not a deliberate deception. But Markos’ public position has shifted. He is rather more openly a friend of corporate power–as his Libertarian remarks show–and the model has changed from a community of power to a broker of power. This is why he is encouraging hive mind–the idea is not voters who think and act, but voters who can be delivered.
This was all probably inevitable. Politics is too narrow a context to deal with the problems besetting us, and D.kos was first and foremost a political blog. So inevitably it should turn to the well-worn grooves.
There’s too many passive progressives. They just aren’t willing to do the kind of work that is necessary to drag those who have seized power out of the mechanisms of control.
Until progressives are ready to take direct action, nothing will change.
And for the record, that “thing” on Oct 5th is not direct action. Scheduling a once every 3-4 month huge activist reunion / primal scream is not direct action. Everywhere other than DC, those kinds of events are called “keggers.” Direct action is massive scale boycotts, strikes, etc. The Hispanic community got almost 2 weeks of excellent press coverage in May about their side of immigration issues because they went ON STRIKE.
wrong.
I’m sorry, but you’re just plain wrong. What exactly do you mean by “action”?
In politics, when you get right down to it, “action” is initiating a discussion which builds a consensus toward a basic set of values, then building the structure to achieve those values.
Kos and his site have served to squelch that discussion. People get banned for all kinds of silly things, banned b/c they don’t fit w/in the general “narrative” being crafted by the institutionalized corporatist Democratic Party. Thus, his writing, as well as the bullying by his thugs DHinMI, Armando, Delaware Dem and others provide a service to the likes of Clinton(s), Warner, Kaine, Webb and others … center-right ideas get to dress in progressive drag, while genuine center-left and leftist ideas are weened from the discussion. This is a blatant betrayal of what that site claimed to be, and of what it was back in 2002/03 when there was a vital discussion, one with witch a community helped him to build the brand that he’s now trading on.
Yes, it’s his site, and yes he can do with it what he wills, but he’s also made himself a public figure and a part of the broken machinery of the Democratic Party. The idea that you only have a right to say something if you’re an owner or carrying a gun is a narrative driven by BOTH political parties, and is contrary to the whole idea of being citizens in a supposedly free society.
It is so funny that you mention Delaware Dem. He/she troll rated me the other day(I have been a member since before the 04 election)for saying a statement he said sounded republican to me. he then troll rated me and commented back that no one calls him a republican. Asshole!
the broken often resent when someone holds a deep, dark, truthful mirror up before them.
Direct action means nonviolent direct action. I can’t believe a progressive doesn’t know what is meant by the term “direct action.”
Organizing can fit inside the definition of direct action. Showing up to monthly local Democratic party meetings, voting for progressive issues at those meetings, and voting for progressive local party leadership would definitely be direct action.
Direct action runs from direct participation in local party activities, to being a precinct leader, to petition drives to economic boycotts to strikes.
Progressives definitely need to be doing a lot less discussing and lot more implimenting. Very little gets accomplished in discussions. That vast majority of real political change is caused by the small minority of people who stop talking and start actively creating change.
The vast majority of local democratic committees could be taken over a progressive walking into monthly meeting with 10-15 friends. A block of 10-15 solid progressive votes showing up every meeting would completely change the make-up of all but the most populous of urban area local committees.
a little self-righteous, huh? ONLY “direct action” counts? So to add to the people who send in money or carry a gun, you would add only people who go to meetings or volunteer to get arrested, is that it? How very Robert Heinlein of you, only you’d offer a slightly broader definition of what is required to be a citizen, to “earn” one’s right to participate in the political life of this supposedly free nation.
Not everyone can lay down on courthouse steps. Some people have other obligations, or health limitations, or don’t do well in crowds, or are too damned poor to risk losing what little they have.
Do you think it was only winger foot soldiers who got the Republicans where they are? It was people talking to friends and relatives. It was people writing letters to the editors, listening to talk radio. Discussing is PART of how change happens … it is every bit as vital as sitting on a committee chair or marching. Hell, there were numerous reports after ’04 of liberals and progressives who TRIED to get involved in local parties, only to be frozen out by entrenced and corrupt party officials.
This is the same argument that Kog and his little keyboard thugs use. That DH has worked on several ineffective campaigns doesn’t make his voice more important than mine, or anybody else’s. CITIZENS PARTICIPATE HOW THEY CAN, and in the current system that becomes harder and harder. In order for that to happen, people have to change the way they think about politics, and that happens partly because of how people TALK AND WRITE about politics.
Horsefeathers.
I know a woman who has been disabled by MS and on Social Security Disability for over 20 years. She kept going to local county committee meetings. She kept working as a precinct leader (she did phone work only), worked caucus days, has been gone to several state conventions as delegate for Pres. candidates at the state convention. (She’s been offered Nat’l delegate a couple of times, but that she thinks would be too much physically).
so you ARE saying that only those who contribute in a way that YOU recognize as important are allowed to say anything, to have any impact on our political system?
Perhaps you should take a refresher on the meaning of the phrase Representative Democracy.
Spare me.
No. I am saying for the most part, only those who contribute in a way that I have been pointing out as important are EFFECTIVE in making any impact on our political system.
Talk all you want, but all that talk doesn’t accomplish much.
Generally, the only ones that actually create change that small minority of people who stop talking and start doing.
So those of us risking out jobs on Oct.5th are just useless wankers ? Thanks a lot, afs.
I’ve never attended a “kegger” in my life, but I’ve marched against the Viet Nam war, for a large range of civil rights, and now at life’s end I still hobble for peace and social justice. Sometimes I’m a tiny dot in a huge crowd; sometimes I’m the lone old woman carrying a sign on a busy corner. Since I can’t MAKE a massive scale boycott happen, I do what I can.
Shame on you.
ONE PERSON can make a difference.
No matter what, people will scrutinize and criticize protesters and activists.
Either we don’t do it the way they would – which invariably they aren’t doing a damn thing at all – or what we do is “meaningless”.
I don’t see any action as being more direct. Letter writing supports the marchers. Marchers support the letter writers.
Street action
Bridge action
Civil Resistance
civil Disobedience
Marching
Banner Dropping
Street Theatre
Standing on a corner with a sign
Vigils
Peace Memorials
Calling, writing, emailing the bastards of war.
It’s all direct action. Because it’s action
Thanks, Janet.
I write LTE, email my elected representatives relentlessly, and am very careful about who gets my money, both in contributions and in the market place.
What I cannot do as an individual is magically create a mass movement. That really pissed me off.
I know you are there early and late agitating for change, so your support is doubly appreciated.
Funny, isn’t it, how some who would proclaim the virtues of participatory democracy love to dictate & judge your chosen forms of particpation when they don’t conform to theirs? Or to manipulate the acceptable parameters of debate (& all the “progressive” bloogers – Kos, the FDL crowd, Booman, et al. have their signature ways of enforcing the gate)? All in service of a kinder, gentler oppression.
from each, by talent, ability & desire – what else can we do?
let a thousand blossom bloom!
Josh Wolf
At your service in my quest for a kinder and gentler oppression. WTF does that mean?
Thank you, Arcturus. Participatory democracy is messy, and it should be.
“We need those who provoke us so that we may be warned of the fate that our prejudices or ignorance or wishful thinking may hold in store for us.”
William O. Douglas, former U.S. Supreme Court justice, 1962
FWIW:
Hillary is not a Democrat. She’s an ILLEGAL OCCUPATION, BUSH LIE SUPPORTER. She is True Red through and through.
Today’s “Democrats” are mostly just pols trying to keep their bennies. They don’t even listen to the people anymore. They easily concede. They easily support torture, lies, loss of rights.
Fuck FAKE Democrats. Fuck em all.
My “vote” will not be an “anti” candidate vote. (to vote for someone so as not to vote for the other guy” I want my vote to be “PRO” the candidate. Right now I don’t see many choices… so my choice will be to try to fight to have these fuckers held accountable for their part in allowing war crimes.
Would that I had 1,000 4’s to give.
Good on you, Madman. This needed saying.
“Markos represents is the ineffective and whipped-like-dogs Rockefeller Republicans trying to take over the Democratic Party because they were unable to hold onto their own.”
BUSHY WHIPPED
Here’s a third party for you. The problem goes beyond just the two parties.
Here’s a third party for you. The problem goes beyond just the two parties.
The reality there is that it is one of the 2 parties that is corrupting what might have been a viable 3rd party were it not for the campaign finance laws that have already corrupted the first 2 parties…
LOL
of course, the party’s shitty, anti-woman, pro-corporate, warmongering, civil-liberties-hating, Republican-in-Dem-sheep-clothing candidate Casey needs all the protection he can get. COSMIC MUFFIN FORBID that there be a broad, vigorous debate that goes beyond the rabid right and the right.
Take comfort in the fact that if that lisping clueless legacy hack wins, you’ll be adding his name to the usual traitors who cross the aisle and help the Rethugs push through the next erosion of human dignity. Hope that make you happy … that comfort that man-on-dog is gone, yet replaced by someone who votes for the same shit, only for righties to be majority leader, rightie dems to chair committees, rightie dems to be whip and assistant or …
This isn’t a question of equality, it’s one of opportunity.
Yes, it is, it is about equality in opportunities.