NBC News is reporting that Iraqi TV is preparing the public for the execution of Saddam.
How do you all feel about it?
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Someone will need to start a running body count for deaths attributed to this judicial assassination.
This is yet another good reason to stay away from large population centers in America and Europe until there is peace in the Middle East. Or someone declares an end to the Crusades.
This execution will give Saddam the hero status of a Saladin that he has always aspired to. Unfortunately, it will also give him a martyr status among suicidally radical people in the world.
It never ceases to amaze me how very very self-destructively stupid we Americans are capable of being.
I see no Democrats denouncing the hanging. They are too busy selling post cards.
personally affects our take and perception on everything. Today for me is a day when I have to seek real answers to very very real hard problems that concern the life or death of child, and always I must weigh that none of us live forever to prevent anybody suggesting anything crazy to me that would do more harm than good to my child. With that being the backdrop I process all this in front of what a horror. The man is in U.S. custody as another poster pointed out today and as such he is considered a prisoner of war that we are going to turn over knowing full well that he will be executed. According to Riverbend this will only bring more violence, pain and suffering, and death to his own people and her own people. Nothing is being accomplished but further horror to the already brutalized and I don’t know how that can ever be justified.
My comment at Eurotrib:
Saddam Hussein is expected to be killed by hanging within the next four hours in accordance with the “rule of Crawford County,” a peculiar form of justice estranged from current international law. Saddam’s killing will prevent courts from holding trials for other crimes- far graver- for which Mr. Hussein is still indicted, such as:
The use of chemical weapons against the Curds in 1988;
The use of the same arms against Iran in the 1980-1988 war;
The invasion of Kuwait in 1990;
The repression of the Shi’ite and Curd insurrections in 1991.
Unfortunately, the more obscure and controversial aspects of those crimes need no longer be dealt with, much to the relief of those who generously supplied Hussein with the means and the support to commit those crimes.
Saddam is expected to be killed before 6 AM local time, in about three hours.
Don’t think I’ve seen you before “rom wyo.” Does that mean initials ROM in Wyoming?
Excellent comment. You’ve hit the nail on the head! Killing him now, after a bogus trial, sweeps under the rug all of his real crimes…including all the ones with U.S. fingerprints on them. After all, he was our good buddy and close ally for many years.
wonder why Bush delayed his speech on ‘the new way forward for Iraq’ until “sometime” in January. Scripted.
The hanging of Saddam, now emboldens Bush’s sales pitch, ‘another milestone in democracy for Iraqis, the necessaity for staying the course….it’s now winnable.’
See mission accomplished
or
Gasoline on the civil-war.
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of the kangaroo court justice and execution of Ceausescu of Romania.
Hey, looks whose friend."But I will not let myself be reduced to silence."The wall to wall coverage is morbid. They had a second by second account of what happens to the spine, brain and body at the moment of hanging.
He’s a bad guy. And now he’ll be a martyr.
I saw that Headline News for one had the title ‘Hanging 101’ along with a replica of human body and someone apparently(had the sound off)explaining what happens when you hang. Even for the MSM this has got to be a new low. And I’m sure that our coverage of this will cement our standing to the rest of the world as that compassionate conservatism bush was always going on about…..
“Hanging for Dummies”
Somebody needs to slap the matches out of bushco’s hand and tell him:
There will be no phoenix rising from those ashes!
How do I feel? Horrible.
Full of terrible dread for the further bloodshed this will cause and the lives it will cost on all sides.
Full of shame at my countries part in all of this, past and present.
Full of grief for suffering of the innocent Iraqi people.
the demise of my own countries soul.
Sick with from the sense of complete powerlessness to do one damned thing about any of it.
That’s about it.
I think it is a shame. It is sad, as another poster already mentioned, that our government continually shoots itself in the foot; executing Saddam is not going to help one iota in terms of how the muslim world perceives us. More importantly, it is just sad to see someone executed. Yes, I know, Saddam was a very bad person. I fought in Iraq and I can say with a certainty that there are millions of Iraqis who will be glad to see him hung, but I just can’t support capital punishment under any circumstances.
I’m opposed to the death penalty under all circumstances. So I think this is a barbaric spectacle.
Try to think of it from the perspective of the average half-educated Iraqi, however. It would be similar to the way that hanging Ronald Reagan…or Dick Cheney…might feel to the average American knothead. So it really is big news.
Although I would disapprove, I would be willing to serve as a witness at the hanging of George W. Bush and Dick Cheney, if my government asked me to do that. Painful as it would be, I would not shirk public service, as both of them did.
I feel like this is just another monumental fuck-up-what’s new-that will have many unintended consequences for our troops and our country.
This will make Saddam possibly the mother of all martyrs and help unite the MidEast against us even more. Especially since the letter he wrote to the Iraqi people telling them not to hate the invaders..etc etc..smart move on his part. It doesn’t matter that the ‘Iraqi government’ is supposedly behind this, everyone knows it’s what bush(the texacutioner)wants.
The whole spectacle is damn sickening.
Faux News seems to think that the execution of Saddam will be the inevitable trigger for widespread terrorist attacks in the US and elsewhere. I’ve been wondering why the sudden unseemly haste to get on with the hanging. It didn’t occur to me until I saw a big scary text banner on Faux that it’s all coming down right before New Years. We haven’t had a terror alert in a while. What better time than New Years weekend.
A repost of my previous response to Head’s reply in StevenD’s diary regarding this comment, quoted in an AP Report that included this quote: “The Americans want him to be hanged respectfully,…”
Anyone still operating under the illusion that any member of this administration, top to bottom, has any ethics, morals or humanity, is, themselves, seriously deranged.
This will get the Rovewellian Spin, that it is yet another milestone in the success story of Iraq…another step in the march toward freedom and democracy…and the media will regurgitate it 24/7 to the sheeple, without regard to the consequences at home and abroad.
Regardless of my feelings re: the death penalty, which I oppose, this is a bleak reminder of the winter we now have in America. We truly have regressed to the dark ages in this country.
Hanged respectfully?
Hanged respectfully?
Ooops. Sorry.
worth reading twice. [disgusted to my core at the moment]
Now I am no fan of Saddam’s methods, but he did succeed in making Iraq internally secure and functional, which I believe was the reason why the West supported him for much of his reign. Now we are supposedly trying to bring security and functionality to Iraq, and our methods seem to be failing miserably. What kind of hypocrisy would it be if the new puppet government in Iraq has to use the same brutal tactics to achieve what Saddam was able to achieve while we execute Saddam for his success in this endeavor. Inquiring minds want to know!
the CIA masters who supplied Saddam while he was on the run from a botched rub-out paid by them in the 1960s, and more above board responsibles like Donald Rumsfeld, cannot be brought up on charges in the World Court.
We unleashed this beast on his own people. We bankrolled him. We enabled him to take over the country at our behest. He was our boy until he wasn’t. I don’t even think that his decades-long regime made things ‘better’ or quieted everyone down because he kept the Kurds and the Shi’a under his heel with the the torture chamber, with rape, with poison gas. All tactics and equipment supplied by us.
Like Stalin and Tito, he just stayed the time of reckoning. Tito may have been ‘benign’ and willing to work with the West, but in his time, he was a butcher, too. When he died, the Serbs got their chance to work out their nationalist fantasies on the Bosnians and other groups they considered subhuman in their ‘greater Serbia.’
The Russians kept up the facade that Stalinism wrought. Don’t think that the Chechens aren’t recipients of their bounty, even now with neo-Stalinist Putin in the driver’s seat.
I’m getting tired of the enablers making other people’s lives miserable just so that the ends justify the means. If it’s not oil, it’s nationalism; it’s playing the great game.
Meanwhile, whole pieces of the planet slide into the sea (Canadian ice shelf) or disappear because of global warming…(an island, I believe, in Micronesia).
This shyt has got to stop.
http://riverbendblog.blogspot.com/
She emerges from another long silence.
She says she suspects the Americans purposely tried to completely and utterly destroy Iraq, its people, its memory, everything. She cannot understand why.
She says that she fears the execution of Saddam Hussein will be the last straw that removes the last vestige of hope.
words fail
Ooops didn’t see this before I commented… lol
My thanks to you both.
Riverbend was absolutely devastating. That should be reprinted here verbatim on the front page.
Riverbend is still alive and kicking, and tells you “why”:
Do you get? You got it? Yes… You got it. Now: What the fuck can we do about it?
The entire bush administration has been criminal in every aspect of it’s conduct of this entire farce of an illegal war.
Wow. I’m sure this is going to serve as a huge deterrent to tyrants all over the world. Not.
My country went to war and all we got was a lousy hanging.
What a clusterF; But GWB is probably grinning. Maybe’s he’s playing with Saddam’s guns down on the ‘ranch.’
I am curious to know how aware the average Iraqi is of our supplying those chemical weapons, our role in the Iran/Iraq war, etc? If they are very aware of those facts, my fear is this execution will give total license to militias to unleash on American troops who are in an untenable position. Not to mention the backlash that will be further reckoned on Sunnis
equals mission accomplished in covering the butts of the neo-con loons. Plus the death penalty is just plain wrong.
Watching the wall to wall CNN gleeful coverage of this event in Asia is not nice. It makes us Americans look incredibly bloodthristy and barbaric – maybe we are. Saddam is already a hero for standing up to us. Killing him just turns him into a bigger martyr. Why do CNN not examine why Saddam, who was a murderer of many of his own people, has become a martyr? The media need to seriously start loking at the real issues instead of just being a propoganda front before our world position is totally ruined and our people are seen as legitimate targets worldwide.
I think it’s the best and last good night’s sleep that Bush will ever have. Sick unidicted fuck.