“My country has been beaten and they are calling me back to make peace and sign an armistice.”
– Henri-Philippe Pétain, upon the fall of France
“Now it is time for Democrats and Republicans to join together and make Congress work for every American.”
– Senator Harry Reid, upon the Donklephants gaining control of Congress.
That the Republicans were so ably using the REAL powers of the minority yesterday shouldn’t be a surprise. That’s what a party that actually functions does. It differentiates itself from its opponents. It drives the debate by refusing to play except on its own terms. This is the power that Harry Reid and the rest of the Democratic Party leadership steadfastly refused to use when THEY were in the minority. Eager to mirror the Republicans, not to set themselves apart. What is important is maintaining the basic functioning of the status quo for the Donklephants … they stand for nothing else. The few that DO try to fight for liberal values and their constituents are left out in the cold:
That‘s not what it‘s about. The fact is, the president and the Republican leadership are so out of touch with reality of the American people is, they don‘t understand that this war is a disaster, and the American people want us out of there.
Now, the problem is, it‘s a little easier for them to pull a stunt like this, because the Democrats are being too weak as well. We‘re talking about primarily just whether or not we‘re going to have a weak resolution about the escalation.
But the election in November, we hadn‘t even heard about the escalation. The issue here is, how can we, as Democrats, working with some Republicans, find a way to end this war, to have a timetable to end it, and to get tough on this thing? It‘s going to take forever just to get to this escalation resolution, if we don‘t come up with something that‘s a lot more serious.
And that‘s my concern on the Democratic side is, we‘re being too timid. We‘ve got to take on this war directly. […]
It‘s a stunt. The fact is, there should be a debate on this. It‘s a bipartisan resolution that I think is too weak. I‘d like to fix it. I‘d like the chance to have amendments. But if nothing else, whether you‘re on one side or the other, we should have a chance to amend it and to debate this war and to debate it now.
So the idea that they are somehow not getting treated fairly, to simply have something like this come up, is a—in my view, a ridiculous argument.
And it is time to debate the Iraq war. More importantly, it‘s time to debate getting out of Iraq, not just figuring out a way to prevent this surge or escalation by the president.
You can watch Senator Feingold here and read some more of what he has to say here. Reid and the rest will not listen to him. They won’t listen to you, they won’t listen to me. They won’t listen to voices of reason, decency or righteous passion. They won’t listen to the screams, to the crying children, to the supplications from families left bereft both here amongst military families and in Iraq and Afghanistan amongst those unlucky enough to be “collateral damage” of our supposedly “accurate” modern munitions.
No, Reid and the rest will listen to the wealthy landed gentry of this country who want their investments in Big Oil and Big Weapons to continue to pay off. There will be no universal healthcare that doesn’t protect their investments in Big Insurance and Big Pharma. There will be no listening to a rabble that can’t understand the importance of maintaining the appearance of a once-almost-great nation.
Forever Reid and his ilk surrender to greater, more belligerent powers, to the big campaign checks and clubby leather boys club of the US Congress. Forever the surrender to the militaristic culture of death and destruction that this country wallows in. Forever the careful adhearance to what IS, not what could be. He and the rest will remain blind to the splashes of blood staining the marble halls of power, for what matters is the power, not what it is used for. He will not fight, only capitulate. He will not lead, only go through the motions. He likes to drone on about how he learned to fight when he was a boxer, but he boxes only with shadows, careful never to land a blow.
The Donklephant party isn’t a functioning political party, it is a ponzi scheme, a weird combination of grifter and the Washington Generals, with Reid and Schumer and Clinton standing flatfooted whilst the Republicans twirl arguments on their fingertips and pass the debate around and around a mocking circle. It exists only to collect money and to provide the appearance of a contest, and Reid more than any of them exemplifies this sad truth. They represent the Left in exactly the same way that the Vichy represented France … empty and venal, an illusion of governance while supporting monstrous conquerers.
So not vote for them. Do not give them money. The Donks are a dead party, and they don’t represent you. Principled politicians like Feingold should join Senator Sanders as an Independent, and convince other progressive and liberal Senators and Representatives to join them. It won’t happen, because even he is a politician, and thus a careful man … he knows better than any just how utterly corrupted by money our “two” parties are, and how they have structured government to make opposition all-but impossible. Maybe he’ll surprise me and make this leap … I’m willing always to hope for a bold move toward real change. The building of a real opposition will take time, and it will require the destruction of the Democratic Party, a scary prospect I know, but there is nothing else. One need only look at what happened to Dean in Iowa and look at the heavy hands of Schumer and Emmanuel in the 2006 to see how change from within is impossible.
In order for this country to save itself, the party of Senator Pétain must die. Abandon them, now.
Reid can’t back down fast enough. He’s a fraud, a coward, and so are most of the rest of them.
…that’s your opinion, and you know what I say about opinions: “Everybody’s got one, and they all stink.”
refute me, make your points … go ahead, little fanboy. Did I insult someone above insult? Are we to mindlessly genuflect to these men? Show me ANYTHING in Reid’s recent behavior or history that says I’ve read him wrong. How much did he fight the Republicans the last several years? How closely has he worked w/ Senator Ensign(R – winger) in a mutual support pact? What has he done that has been REMOTELY effective, against the war, for human rights, to lesson corruption?
He’s done nothing. He’ll DO nothing. He shut the Senate down ONCE over the last several years, and it was on a question of SENATORIAL PEROGATIVE.
Seriously, refute me. You won’t, you can’t, you just mindlessly bleat along with the rest of the sheep, while this country spirals deeper into the mire.
…you’re not actually in a mood to listen (“little fanboy,” “mindlessly bleat along…”) so I’ll save myself the trouble of any meaningful response.
I’ll correct myself slightly, though – I think you do like to listen, but it seems what you like to listen to is the sound of your own voice.
Have at it.
Cripes! Have we learned nothing from recent events here?!! Back in the corner for both of you. Come out with your best arguments and have at it.
state your reasons, or shut your trap. I wrote several paragraphs on why Reid is a worthless sack of skin, and you replied w/ an ad hominem attack (which deserves the same back in kind).
Seriously, tell me how and why I’m wrong. You won’t, because you have no answer other than “he’s not a Republican”, which is utterly meaningless.
…“shut your trap.”
How do you describe that strategy for engagement?
Is does seem consistent with your making the leap to “you have no answer other than “he’s not a Republican”, which is utterly meaningless.” as an assessment of what/how I think about Harry Reid in particular, and members of the Democratic Party in general.
However, those statements are solely an indication of your own state of mind, and have nothing to do with me or my very brief comment.
In my opinion, I think that you took a very large leap from a few objective observations about events in the U.S. Senate to your own emotionally-charged conclusion (if, by ‘conclusion’ we mean invectives shouted loudly from atop a wooden box in a public park, accompanied by flying spittle and a stomping foot) that “Reid is a worthless sack of skin.”
If there’s some kind of logical connection, or an invitation to discuss the issue in greater detail, between your observations and your conclusion, well, I just can’t see it.
For my part, I’m not well-versed in the structure and methods of the United States Senate – not enough to reach a definitive conclusion about this particular vote, anyway.
I do know that the U.S. Senate is, by intention and in actual practice, a very slow-moving and deliberative body. So, anyone who looks to it as a source of inspiration or action is pretty much going to be disappointed more often than not.
I also know that their rules and methods are difficult for outsiders like us to penetrate, unless we’ve spent considerable time and energy studying up in the body’s history. I don’t know about you, but I’m not Robert Byrd.
For my part, I’m willing to trust that Harry Reid knows what he’s doing, and understands what he has to work with – both now and in the longer haul.
I do know that he’s got one idiot in his caucus who’s already said he’ll cast his lot with the current minority on the issue of the U.S. invasion and occupation of Iraq, a move that would change what is now a very tenuous Democratic majority.
I also have another opinion, which you may choose to listen to or ignore (remember what I said about opinions): you don’t seem to be emotionally suited to observing or commenting on politics and public policy. It seems to get you all riled up, which just isn’t good for physical or emotional health.
I admit that my opinion’s based on very limited data, but the ease with which you engage in invective tells me that your demons are right below the surface, eager to come out at the slightest provocations. You might want to consider meditation, or psychotherapy, as well as cutting down on caffeine.
Just my two cents, anyway.
try to keep it civil the two of youse. Edging into the personal on both sides here and there’s no need for it. Thank you in advance.
It’s not just one vote, it’s years of ineffective fawning, fights that he never makes, stands that he never takes. Yes, the Senate is a slower-moving body than the House, but the Republicans seem to have NO trouble lining up votes, driving debates, derailing debates, coordination strategy … they did it when they were in the minority before, tying the Dems in knots, they did it in the majority, leaving Reid to do little more than fawn and whine, and now that they are back in the minority they are running rings around him again. That leaves two possibilities:
Neither choice can be called leadership.
He’s a terrible leader. He’s a center-right near Republican … anti-woman, anti-gay, pro-war, pro-weapons industry, pro-destructive mining.
I understand your characterizations of Harry Reid, in that they appear to me to be based on your frustration and disagreement with what you see as his basic positions on issues, and on what you’ve seen (or not seen) result from his leadership.
I don’t share your view of him as a modern-day collaborator, on par with Petain and those others who sat with the German Nazis.
What motivated my initial “opinions/assholes” comment was my belief that what you, or me, or anyone else who isn’t a member of the Democratic caucus in the Senate has to say about him doesn’t matter one single bit.
The Senate leadership role is an elected position, and Reid’s Senate colleagues think enough about him – his views and abilities – to have voted him in. Kennedy and Kerry are my two Senators, and I trust them both enough (Kennedy more so, because of his experience and passion) to do the right thing when it comes to such matters.
I admit that I also chose a snarky comment because I thought it stood up to the overall tone of your piece.
I disagree with the premise of this diary, your conclusion, and your method of conveying them. I also certainly respect (perhaps even more so, now) that they are all based on your unique perspective and beliefs.
Anyway, long story short, I think that your most recent comment, and this response here, both reflect the kind of tone that Boo’s asking for.
I’m sorry that this point got lost in our exchange.
The photo you’ve used for this diary was also featured at one of my favorite sites – Michael Shaw’s BagNewsNotes. His take on what it says about Harry Reid is quite different from yours:
Thanks
I’ll be darned, I gave you a Recommend, and it leap-frogged your diary on top of my diary. Such are the wages of sin, he he.
is that one has nothing to add.
any dissenters want to defend reid?
see my latest comment a little higher up, Miss D.
oh dear. two of my favorite blogpeople fighting.
Mitm. I think you bit ear here, though I have never understood any of the positives of Reid.