[Crossposted at myleftwing.]
I’ve been banned from dailykos (it happened back on February 22). I haven’t been told why (with all that implies or does not imply (other than that kos is busy and I’m a nobody)).
However, my guess is I ‘defended’ Hillary from Republican-style attacks a little too well. See here for the fun: http://www.dailykos….. I think the following, modestly, is one of my exemplary diaries on the topic: North of Florida takes a few swings at Hillary.
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I understand that a single frontpager can ban a dailykos contributor, so I wasn’t exactly invulnerable. No one (unfamous) who posts at dailkos is.
(And not that there aren’t other possible reasons for my banning: I was apparently on the other side of organized banning campaigns by probably hired hand pro-Likud kossacks).
Again, I’m not a ‘Hillary person’ but I think she should be attacked for her positions on things that really matter. (Just for example, for her belligerent stance toward Iran.) Not for refusing to say “I’m sorry I didn’t know then what I know now.” (Not to make light of this issue, I do think Hillary showed poor judgment back in 2002. But that’s a pretty common occurrence among politicians, I just generally don’t expect politicians to publicly acknowledge they’ve shown poor judgment, and I don’t think this is a particularly big deal, in the real 2007 we’re dealing with.)
My conclusion is that Dailykos is right now basically an Edwards-Obama campaign site. 64% of respondents to a March 14-15 kos poll pegged one of those two as their favorites. Hillary got 3%. I have nothing against either of those guys, but a campaign site is not a place to have a conversation.
Nor is it a place to ‘be yourself’, which is a fundamental reason why I post and diary.
In the end, I want to make my banning dailykos’s loss. And I think this is the attitude all my fellow ‘bannees’ should take. I’ll just keep on keeping on and not change a damn thing about my style or content. It looks like boomantribune is a good place to do that.
It’s nice to be here.
Welcome to the most exclusive club!
I also have no idea of why and they of course do not respond to any emails. I get banned from everywhere mainly because the subjects I bring up neither left nor right will touch. I am equally talented at pointing out the lunacy of both stances.
The most painful with kos is the denial of 911. Another interesting observation is that while red boards are far more restricive than blue ones deviation from the prescribed pablum always get a ban.
Yeah, and like virtually everyone from the ‘real world’ I deviate in some ways from the prescribed liberal opinion.
But I didn’t reveal that on dailykos, I don’t think. To my shame I admit, for example, that I was reluctant to blog on my Milosevic skepticism: the evidence was never produced that he was even remotely guilty of anything, but Serbia after all was one of ‘our’ Democratic Party imperial adventures…. Just like Sudan will be one of ‘ours’ when and if the Dems take power again.
Even though I generally stayed within the ‘proper Democrat’ bounds, I got banned.
I work with a Serb, and boy does he have some stories.
I also find that meaningful conversations only can come from people not born here because their views have not been warped by the din of american MSM.
Interesting you should say that. I felt I was almost banned for a post questioning the whole Milosevich thing too – here’s the post – on MY blog which has far more sophisticated comments than the same post received on DK:
http://realhistoryarchives.blogspot.com/2006/03/was-milosevic-poisoned.html
I’ve found that you can refer to 911 in oblique terms such as ‘the event that shall not be named here’ on kos and get away with it.
Open questioning of the official story is still a big no-no.
One blog that really freaks me out is Rigorous Intuition. The owner will discuss UFOs, ghosts, demons, possession, Satanic ritual abuse, hypnosis/mind control, and alien abductions with the utmost credulity, but the ‘official’ story of 911 is 100% the bedrock truth, and you shouldn’t believe the evidcene in those lying videos or statements from people connected to those terrible events.
Welcome to the frogpond.
It looks like myleftwing is a good place to do that.
You do realize that this that this is BMT? 😉
Glad you came over, Fairleft. Welcome! Diversity is nice, IMHO;-)
Welcome to the pond, Fairleft. I’ve lost track of just how many people ended up here (and/or at MLW), but it’s like a gazillion. :>) They must ban a couple dozen people a day! Seems like a weird way to build a coalition, but who am I to judge.
At any rate, hope you find the water to your liking.
I think they don’t have enough closets into which to stuff all the crazy aunts and uncles when company comes over.
It’s starting OUR coalition, LOL!
rec my comments, too. that should have told you you were terminal.
Yeah, a bit too ‘happy’ with the recommends I was…
you regret rec’ing me?
oh well, pastordamning can’t forgive your sins anymore.
to rec parsimoniousness. But I did sense a vibe that recs were very important things, not to be ‘liberally’ handed out to the little people.
to welcome another DKos refugee. Here in this refugee camp, we often pride ourselves on possessing some of the best minds and best writers, myself not included.
The fact that the FPers on DKos don’t answer emails is a major aggravation to me. I don’t care how busy and important they think they are. A professional should always at least acknowledge personal emails. If you can’t do that, get another damned position or hire some help. I’ve been using email since 1993. I have NEVER failed to respond to a personal email. And that’s just part of my professional life, several hours every day. I really do think the FPers on DKos–all of them, but some much more guilty than others–are really grossly and hideously arrogant.
I was a regular on DKos since 2002, back to the Moveable Type days (before Scoop and super scooper etc.) under another nick, a long-time low UID (but such bullshit is that!) “trusted user.” I’ve got a strong voice and strong personality and tons of knowledge in my field and several other fields, and I contributed an embarrassing amount of my time helping to built up DKos for free. Then suddenly on Easter Sunday 2005 I went against the grain on a Terri Schiavo diary (sorry, I hate the elevation of Michael Schiavo to hero status) and I got nuclear annihilated, based on my comments in a single diary.
I was so shocked, I left the blogosphere entirely for about six months. I came back, landing in this frog pond here as my main base (although I’m not exactly a core member) in September 2005, right during the Katrina catastrophe.
In January 2007, almost two years having passed, I wrote short respectful emails to several of the DKos frontpagers briefly noting the situation and asking if they could restore posting privileges to my old nick.
Nothing in response.
That’s a good way to run a cult, but it’s an awful way to run a business, or a political organization.
They have really made an enemy. Unfortunately, in opposition to my strong peacenik Christian tendencies (I took a religion poll on the net somewhere not long ago, for example, and it rated me “Strong Orthodox Quaker”), I’m also a grumpy old Scottish grudgeholder, and I’m lying in wait for a chance to take revenge. I’ve never had such strong feelings before about any kind of online operation. And I used to be the president of a small Internet company, so I have a lot of experience with ideas about Internet operations, etc. … For whatever reason, I remain in a state of constant anger about being banned from that place. I know I should just let it go, give it up, surrender, be amused, put it in its place, etc. But no–I’m just plain white hot angry.
I sensed the intolerance as a newbie so kept a lot of my opinions to myself. Dealing with the high muckety mucks I always felt a little bit how I used to feel in the college ‘computer lab’ in the 80s and early 90s when I went up to ask for ‘help’ from the front desk computer guy/gal. Where did those arrogant nerds go?
And my other experience is that some of the high and mighty at kos (including perhaps kos himself) are just not very bright. And so, naturally, there’s a lack of sense of humor problem. For example, reading Bob Johnson (when he’s serious) on politics is a seriously mind-contracting experience. (But he’s a touchy one too, who I tweaked as well in “Silvestre Reyes wants to KILL MY KIDS! He’s EVIL!”.) You can’t be smart and sincerely swallow the entire ‘progressive Democrat’ line, including the politically correct and conservative parts.
Hard to argue with anybody who quotes Chesterton. That’s interesting–DKos combination of middling smarts and humorlessness. Never thought of that angle before. It is right on target.
Obama supporters, especially Adam B and Delaware Dem, who is now LV, send emails to one another and conspire to hijack diaries and ban diarists who do not support Obama. It is disgusting.
That’s outrageous. Since there is so much content still on DKos, in the midst of so much crap, I still go there about once a day, but not enough to have noticed that. What assholes, especially that Delaware Dem cretin. I wouldn’t hire him to be the janitor at my own law firm, but he acts like he’s royalty.
Almost hate to ask but what does LV mean? Had some bad run-ins with Adam B on Israel-Palestine issues.
Lucius Veronius, I believe, or a name similar to that.
Lucius Vorenus.
I guess everyone is allowed to have a warped image of self.
Sounds like a bit part from I, Claudius.
Lucius Vorenus is the principal character on HBO’s “Rome” series (set in…you guessed it…ancient Rome!) and is loosely based on a real-life soldier mentioned in Julius Caesar’s writings.
I’ll throw out a wild guess that the closest Delaware Dem/Lucius Vorenus has gotten to a military uniform is when he watched soldiers march by in the Veteran’s Day parade. But nice to know that like so many “Kossacks”, he has such an exaggerated and inflated sense of self.
We may have. I honestly don’t remember. I’ve stayed out of such threads lately, and had nothing to do with whatever happened.
Neither Delaware Dem nor I are site administrators; neither of us have the power to ban anyone.
I have never banned or recommended the banning of any user for supporting or not supporting a particular candidate.
I may have traded emails with DD twice in four years.
I do not conspire with anyone to do anything.
I did not know that fairleft was banned from DailyKos until I saw this diary.
Seriously, does the truth just not matter to you?
Welcome to the pond!
I came here during the infamous “pie fights” and never looked back. I occasionally read diaries at kos but never participate.
Guess it’s old news, but d-mn that’s important and we refugees have more good company! Didn’t notice his farewell. This fully funding the occupation bill, sponsored by the Democrats (??!!??) is wreaking ‘loyalty test’ havoc over there.