Josh Marshall, of Talking Points Memo and TPM Muckraker is one of the big boys of the progressive/liberal blogosphere. And he’s done a lot of good work over the years exposing Republican corruption in Congress, the Bush administration and among the cadre of corporate lobbyists and campaign contributors who support the entire “one party rule of fools” apparatus we know as the Republican Party in the Age of Rove. Yet, he’s always been opposed to impeachment, despite the mountain of evidence that the Bush-Cheney regime is a criminal enterprise dedicated to turning the Constitution into so much toilet paper to be used only by the Republicans, as needed.
I’ve never understood Josh’s refusal to consider impeachment in the case of Bush and Cheney. The evidence of a multitude of crimes has been clearly established. Indeed, the President himself confirmed he committed an impeachable offense when he admitted that he had expressly authorized violations of the FISA law.
In fact, the number of scandals to which this administration is a party is greater than I can easily and briefly enumerate. And yet, like Markos Moulitsas Zuniga of Daily Kos and others, Josh has been reluctant to even consider impeachment, for “practical” reasons. He’s always maintained that it would never succeed in the Senate, so why bother. As far as he was concerned, Speaker Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Reid were right when they took impeachment “off the table” last Fall. Nothing could make him consider changing his mind — until last night, that is:
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As regular readers of this site know, I’ve always been against the movement to impeach President Bush. […]
On balance, this is still my position. But in recent days, for the first time I think, I’ve seen new facts that make me wonder whether the calculus has changed. Or to put it another way, to question whether my position is still justifiable in the face of what’s happening in front of our eyes.
Most of those facts I’m referring to stem from the on-going Gonzales controversy (farce?) and the various running battles over executive privilege. […]
Without going into all the specifics, I think we are now moving into a situation where the White House, on various fronts, is openly ignoring the constitution, acting as though not just the law but the constitution itself, which is the fundamental law from which all the statutes gain their force and legitimacy, doesn’t apply to them.
If that is allowed to continue, the defiance will congeal into precedent. And the whole structure of our system of government will be permanently changed.
Whether because of prudence and pragmatism or mere intellectual inertia, I still have the same opinion on the big question: impeachment. But I think we’re moving on to dangerous ground right now, more so than some of us realize. And I’m less sure now under these circumstances that operating by rules of ‘normal politics’ is justifiable or acquits us of our duty to our country.
Has all the sounds of a man trying to talk himself into doing what he knows is right, regardless of the political implications, doesn’t it? But honestly, I don’t think all this angst is justified. The Bush administration has always had a policy of usurping power for the Executive Branch, and of weakening the checks and balances established under the Constitution. In essence, it has advocated and sought to implement, whenever it could, a policy of one man rule.
Which is why we are now known as a nation that openly tortures and unlawfully and indefinitely detains people without trial, a nation that openly flouts international conventions and prosecutes wars of aggression in violation of the UN Charter, a country that violates and disavows our treaty obligations whenever its president disapproves of them, a nation which spies on its own citizens and whose rulers ignore the law whenever it proves to be inconvenient to the pursuit of their goals.
In short, we are one step away, and a short step at that, from a de facto dictatorship. Indeed, many contend that we are already operating under a dictatorship, since the president has felt free to ignore federal laws passed by Congress, and to determine unilaterally which provisions of those laws he will or will not direct his subordinates to follow. In effect, over the course of his Presidency, Bush has consistently accumulated and usurped power in and for the the executive branch of the federal government pursuant to a program originally conceived by Vice President Cheney before 9/11 even occurred. Pursuant to that program, he has deliberately disregarded laws, treaties and any restraints on his power set forth in the Constitution, and to date, Congress has turned a blind eye to his many transgressions.
Any way you chose to look at it, we have been on dangerous ground for a very long time. If our republic is to survive as the framers of the Constitution intended, President Bush and Vice president Cheney must be impeached, regardless of any “practical considerations” that one might raise as an objection to that course of action. Indeed, I would argue that to fail to do so is the most “impractical” thing Congress could do, in light of the current situation. Failing to act now may mean that Congress will have lost, irrevocably, the opportunity to reverse these changes to our political system which Bush and Cheney have set in place, changes which have turned Congress into a mere debating society, good for sound bites and appearances on the Sunday talk circuit, but bereft of any power necessary to check the excesses of the Executive Branch.
So don’t be distressed, Josh, by all your agonizing over whether you should jump in the deep end of the impeachment pool with the rest of us. Trust me, the waters fine, and I promise you won’t drown. And you’ll feel a lot better once you take that leap of faith. I guarantee it.
Believe it or not impeachment was a topic of discussion at a church service I attended recently.
The speaker made a case that not only is our Constitution being unraveled but so are concepts dating back to the Magna Carta. He contended that it is critical that Congress say no to the unraveling of the Republic via impeachment proceedings even if a conviction does not result, even if the hearings take place on Bush’s last day in office. We can be sure that if the next Democratic president takes for himself or herself the powers that the Bush Adminstration has usurped the Republicans will waste no time hand wringing and deciding whether or not it Impeachment is practical or politic.
Memo to all Dems: Just do it.
I used that deep end of the pool analogy a few weeks ago. Maybe Oui can find it.
Now don’t delegate all the “hard work” to Oui, Boo.
our search engine sucks. We need monthly archives.
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But while I may agree that Bush is self-aware to a certain extent about his own hypocrisy, this awareness he has only extends into shallows of his psyche. At the deep end of the pool, he demonstrates an almost complete cluelessness as to the dissonance, the contradictory rift between his professed beliefs and principles and his actions.
"But I will not let myself be reduced to silence."
I need some help tracking down a bit of Congressional minutiae. I have a rightie troll pestering me, trying to tell me that if Lieberman flipped to the Republicans, control of Congress would go to the Republicans. I’m quite sure I’ve seen here that the committee chairmanships were set in stone at the beginning of the 110th Congress and wouldn’t change even if everyone single Senator suddenly switched sides. Can anyone back me up on this? (For bonus points, would Mitch McConnell be calling the shots with regard to bills being introduced and the like as majority leader?)
It’s set in stone and it would take 60 votes to change it.
RANT:
We have a power-mad paranoid and a nitwit narcissist “running” what’s left of this country, acceded to by an obedient herd of spineless, corrupt Republican congress critters (and, to be fair, some lousy Democrats, along with the infamous Lieberman for Lieberman only), based on untenable and patently absurd “legal” rationales, all veiled in a haze of religious fervor and blessed by corporatist media sycophants (with, of course, some notable and quite extraordinary exceptions), bowing and scraping for a tax break or, even better, a demeaning moniker.
What do a few lives – or a few million lives – or the Constitution – or even the very air we breathe – mean to any of these folks?
Absolutely nothing.
Sadly, most of this was known – or at least knowable – well before the 2000 election.
Impeachment, at this point, seems like an emergency room visit. At a minimum, we have to stop the bleeding. Now.
END OF RANT
well, I guess what it boils down to is:Does one feel that there is still time left to discuss the philosophical positions regarding the use of impeachment. Well I got news for all. There ain’t no time left. Not a goddamned second. Does anyone want to go back to the insanity of the Clinton Impeachment? Go ahead but do it on your time. Not on the rest of the folks that are going bankrupt, losing their meager health coverage, finding that they can’t afford to send their kid to college; can no longer afford to drive their cars because of the rising gas prices; are searching for a second or third job so that their families will be able to eat an pay the rent; Oh screw it. Maybe what has to happen it that enough folks simply leave the keys under tothe doormats and walk away from it all. I bet the banks will just love to have all those houses and cars. well, maybe we should all just drive them up to the tellers and leave them there. And maybe we should contact their mortgage holders and tell them that if they can’t rework the mortgages, they will just have to keep their eyes open cause pretty soon they will have to come and pick up the keys.
What the fuck does anyone think that these maastuhs will do?
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MSNBC reports that four Senate Democrats on the Senate Judiciary Committee have sent aletter [pdf] requesting that a special counsel be appointed to investigate possible perjuryby the Attorney General of the United States, Alberto Gonzales.
● Leahy to Subpoena Karl Rove and Scott Jennings VIDEO
"But I will not let myself be reduced to silence."
Bush & Cheney have been moving toward a dictatorship since day one. And especially since 9/11. But there’s one problem. They were supposed to be wildly popular by this point, moving into the climax. But in fact the opposite is the case — they are wildly unpopular and not respected. This I believe is the crucial difference between them and Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Franco et al. All of these had a much greater favorability rating, or at least respect, when tightening their control. With Bush, the personality cult is a total bust. You can see where it was once in high gear — “Mission accomplished,” Commander Codpiece and all that. Today, most Americans can’t even bear to look at Bush let alone Cheney.
This has been developing for some time, and by Nove 2006 Americans were able to vote in a Democratic Congress. The Democrats have been very careful, very cautious, but I do believe they are serious, although I admit sometimes it is hard to tell.
Bush and Cheney will not succeed. In fact, while this whole Gonzales thing is extremely exasperating, it’s also ridiculous, isn’t it? Gonzales is a buffoon, and so is Bush. Something this rotten has got to collapse.
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“We’re going to win,” President Bush told a guest at a White House Christmas party. Another guest, ingratiating himself with his host, urged him to ignore the report of the bipartisan Iraq Study Group, co-chaired by James Baker, the former secretary of state and his father’s close associate, which described the crisis in Iraq as “grave and deteriorating” and offered 79 recommendations for diplomacy, transferring responsibility to the Iraqi government and withdrawing nearly all US troops by 2008.
“The president chuckled,” according to an account in the neoconservative Weekly Standard, “and said he’d made his position clear when he appeared with British prime minister Tony Blair. The report had never mentioned the possibility of American victory. Bush’s goal in Iraq, he said at the photo op with Blair, is ‘victory.'” Bush reasserted his belief that “victory in Iraq is achievable” at his press conference.
The God Delusion
"But I will not let myself be reduced to silence."