I see that House Republicans are gearing up to propose a vote on a resolution to condemn Rep. Stark for the comments he made the other day on the House floor during the vote to override Bush’s veto of the SCHIP legislation. I also see that Speaker Pelosi has taken the opportunity to repuke Rep. Stark publicly for those same remarks.
“You’re going to spend it to blow up innocent people if we can get enough kids to grow old enough for you to send to Iraq to get their heads blown off for the president’s amusement,” Stark told Republicans on the floor of the House. […]
“While members of Congress are passionate about their views, what Congressman Stark said during the debate was inappropriate and distracted from the seriousness of the subject at hand – providing health care for America’s children,” Pelosi, D-San Francisco, said.
Let me just say how ridiculous and stupid I find her remarks to be, and let me also openly state that there is no way in hell the Democratic Leadership in the House should allow the Republicans to have a floor vote on any resolution condemning Rep. Stark for simply exercising his first amendment rights.
My concern is I’ve heard far worse things from Republicans directed toward Democrats on numerous occasions (or have you forgotten what happened to Senator Durbin already, to cite but one example) yet you never hear of any member of the GOP caucus (with the one exception of McCain responding to the Swift Boating of John Kerry) condemning those remarks. So why do Democrats continue to back down whenever one of their members says something that riles up the GOP in the heat of battle? It’s shameful and disheartening when Democratic leaders do this, and it doesn’t make the liberal base of the party very enthusiastic about working to elect Democrats.
Why do you think Congress’ poll numbers are so low? It’s because Democrats (and a majority of independents) overwhelmingly disapprove of the actions of our leadership. The Democratic party’s base came out to vote in force in 2006, while the GOP base did not. It’s one of the main reasons Democrats did so well, along with the message they gave voters that Democrats would oppose the Bush agenda. So I fail to see how this strategy of caving into the GOP and Bush at every opportunity benefits the Dem’s electoral chances in 2008.
Americans know that it’s hard for the Dems in Congress to overcome Bush’s vetos and a recalcitrant Republican caucus, but they did expect Dems to put up more of a fight. When we see our own leaders always backing away from anything resembling opposition to Bush’s policies, it leaves us with the impression that those Democratic leaders do not share our values or our passion to change the direction of this country. It makes us believe that they care only about regaining and holding power, and the K Street cash that comes with it, not about doing those things that ordinary Americans elected them to do.
Comments like Speaker Pelosi’s regarding Rep. Stark, and those she made recently regarding the activists who protested her decision to take impeachment off
the table (i.e., openly saying she wishes they could have been arrested for loitering) anger many of us who fought very hard to ensure a Democratic victory last Fall. To continue down this path of doing nothing is a
dangerous political strategy in my view. It will discourage the Democrats most dedicated voters from going to the polls next year, a year when GOP voters
are likely to be re-energized to cast their votes against Hillary Clinton (the most likely Democratic nominee as it stands now) regardless of whomever the
Republicans nominate.
Unless elected Democrats start to get the message which their base is sending to them every day on liberal blogs and in opinion polls, I suspect you will be very surprised next year when many of us opt out of voting for Democrats, either by not showing up at the polls to cast our ballots, or by voting for the Greens in protest.
Right now the dominant narrative which Reid and Pelosi’s failures have created is that Democrats are weak and spineless, and lack principles. It’s all over
the blogosphere, and in the national media (not just FOX News, by the way) as well. If you want to change that narrative you have to actually stand up and oppose Bush at some point and take the risk that you’ll get a bit of heat from the right wing spin machine, and from the many inside the Beltway pundits who so readily take the GOP talking points and run with them. But if you do, I believe it’s a gamble well worth taking.
One thing you could do is get behind Ron Paul’s bill HR 3835 (which I wrote about yesterday) and make sure to bring it up for a vote with Democratic
co-sponsors. I’m no fan of Ron Paul, but his bill reads like something which could and should have been proposed by the Democratic leadership back in January.
Besides, backing Paul’s bill, and also by allowing Rep. Kucinich’s bill to bring impeachment charges against Vice President Cheney to come to a vote, would do wonders for the Democrats image with their base. The GOP won elections by energizing their base around core issues such as the war on terror, gay marriage, tax cuts, etc. When will the Democrats steal that page out of their playbook, and take steps to energize its own base?
For your sakes, and more importantly for ours, I hope very soon.
Sincerely,
Steven D
and falling in the realm of the Dali Lama and Gandhi my disgust will manifest itself in Ron Paul, the official candidate of the anti-Illuminati crowd.
At least these people know globalist interests are far more powerful than our piddly US government.
Very well thought out and written, Steven.
At this point though, I almost wonder if a shorter, simpler message might get the point across more effectively. Maybe something like:
An even shorter message: Why are you acting like such a bunch of flaming masochists? It’s embarrassing, perverse, because you’re not involved in a game but in determining the reality of peoples daily lives. They don’t seem to get it. Do you think Pelosi or Clinton or I don’t who is attuned to the daily life of Joe Blow. No! They live in glitter, privilege and arrogant power. What are the common people to do? The bitter joke is that few people in the U.S. would consider themselves common people, not even the poorest. Only stardom exists.
“leaders” will do about this is the only thing they know how to do: Grab their own ankles so the Republicans can fuck them some more. In fact, it wouldn’t surprise me a bit if this resolution got a bunch of Democratic “ayes”.
No, it wouldn’t surprise me either.
Vote local and state. Forget all fed positions. Simple.
Its time to get clean. Pelosi will be the first piece of dung I scrape off the bottom of my shoe.
It is not at all true that ‘americans don’t care what gets said’. I guarantee there are plenty of americas who heard Stark and went “YA! About time a politician said it!”
One of my neighbors was shocked when one day I shouted another neighbor who is a wingnut down. I mean I let him have it. When Bush was flying high I had to listen to his crap about the ‘republican majority forever’ so I rubbed his face in the disaster that is conservatism. These days at work I am famous for no longer listening to it. Tell a Gore joke? I will publicly humiliate you. Talk about ‘creeping socialism’? I will ask if Jesus was a capitalist, and how he felt about the poor. Listen to Limbaugh at work? I will loudly discuss his racist tendencies. AND call you a coolaid drinker. LOUDLY (and trust me, I have a loud voice at work)
Why do I do these ‘impolte’ things? BECAUSE I HAVE HAD IT!
And apparently, so has Stark.
Pelosi is an enabler, and sorry, she is stupid. She is just not very bright. Right now SHE is the enemy, there is no excusing her.
nalbar
sincerely
lTMF’sA
Reach her here…
http://www.speaker.gov/contact/
What I said…
“Because of your obstructionist actions, you have made me ashamed of my Party. I don’t care what people say (Stark), its what people do (Pelosi). And you do NOTHING about the great issues of the day. Life and death hang in your hands and you dissemble.
Because of your self-centered thinking, you will hurt the Party by forcing me and others to vote only local and state. I will not vote for any Federal elected position, regardless of party affiliation.
You alone are responsible for this. You have hurt the Party.
I was proud to see a woman come to your position. Little did I know you were just another sad hack taking the reins. “
What the hell, I feel better anyway…
My letter:
Madame Speaker:
It is my understanding that you will condemn Pete Stark for his comments during the Schip debate. Pete Stark spoke bold, unvarnished truth and you want to condemn him? You are out of touch with the Democrats you were elected to REPRESENT. Under your leadership, Congress has failed to curtail the invasion of Iraq, protect our constitutional rights, pass relevant health care legislation. Oh, yes, you did manage to condemn MoveOn. Please start attending to the serious matters of this country. If you are not up to the leadership role, please step aside and let someone stronger and more capable stand up to the Republican bullies and take care of the things that are critical to the citizens of this country.
Can’t agree more. Even if the House or Senate Democrats may not be able to sustain a vote or override a veto, they should at least use the media to present their views, our views, instead of quietly staying out of the way.
Reid and Pelosi are engaging in the politics of a passive minority. Perhaps too many years in that position has left them stuck in a mold they can’t seem to get out of.
88% don’t think Stark should apologize. If Bush still has 24% support that means that some very hardcore Republicans both agree that Bush enjoys watching soldiers get their heads blown off, and supportBush and the war, probably because they too enjoy watching soldiers’ head getting blown off.
I am ready to send money to anyone in San Francisco who runs against Pelosi in the primary, or who runs as an independent or Green against her in the election. That would really send a message to the Dems.
Cindy Sheehan has already announced that she is challenging Pelosi in the primary.
The NY Times put it very well:
Our message must be ultimately peace, but unfortunately, the road there will require something other than peace to acheive that.
History will unfortunately have to repeat itself, in some heads getting busted in the streets again, as happened in the sixties….it worked ; )
The open letter must contain one very strong message:
“Hey, you so called leaders, elected by the American Public, DO NOT FORGET WHO YOU WORK FOR.”
Not the corporations, the rich, the so-called famous, it’s US the working American people, and our future generations…NOT JUST YOU AND YOURS.
I am discraced watching the turn of events, after all the hard work people have done on the blogs, the streets, to see this bunch of SPINE-LESS, BALL-LESS group of elected officials let this even now smaller group of Opportunist continue the break-down of a government that consumed so many lives, to acheive.
What the fuck has this country become?????
I’m with the People’s Email Network:
If you want to do more, email all your friends from the same action
page and encourage them to speak out too.
We almost got the first override the first time. With 81% of the
American people on our side now, is the time to pour it on, the cable
news talking fluff heads be damned.
Please take action NOW, so we can win all victories that are supposed
to be ours, and forward this alert as widely as possible.
If you would like to get alerts like these, you can do so at
http://www.usalone.com/in.htm
Thank you dear lady, thank you…
I agree one hundred percent, these types of things must done, and in overwhleming repeats of all these acts that have been thrust upon us.
I will participate in this action, and every other one I can find, and have been doing so for quite a while now, daily. In my words I speak every day, on the job, and in social gatherings, small and large groups. The TRUTH must be spread. In facts, not just words.
We preach “grass roots” well lets get the roots going, in such mass that they cannot ignore us.
We the people must overcome this fear that has been adversely been thrust upon us.
It’s time to shout NO MORE.
right. on.