In every Democratic presidential primary there is always a candidate for the ‘tax-hiking, government-expanding, latte-drinking, sushi-eating, Volvo-driving, New York Times-reading, body-piercing, Hollywood-loving, left-wing freak show’ crowd. More specifically, there is always a candidate that appeals to well-educated, white liberals, but does not appeal to working class folks. And it isn’t necessarily about specific policies. In 1992, the white liberal elites gravitated towards Paul Tsongas, even though Tsongas was running on a very moderate platform. In 2004, they gravitated toward Howard Dean, even though Dean was an NRA-approved centrist. Even Bill Bradley, in 2000, had a fairly centrist record as a senator. These candidates appeal to white liberals because of their cerebral approach to politics. They tend to do well in New Hampshire, but struggle elsewhere.
With the exception of Dean, these candidates share a common feature. They don’t like to do negative campaigning. The white liberal elite champion that actually won the nomination, Michael Dukakis, famously fired his campaign manager for a negative leak on Joe Biden, and fired Donna Brazille for a negative leak on Poppy Bush. Negative campaigning does not appeal to intellectuals. Taking a complex issue and narrowing it down to a nasty sound byte or a 30-second ad…appealing to the reptilian brain…is unseemly to people that take issues seriously. The typical white liberal champion is above the fray. The rough and tumble of electoral politics is beneath them. And the end result is always the same. Someone eats their lunch.
So, when Joe Klein sings Barack Obama’s praises for his intellectual style, I have to ask: doesn’t Joe Klein know better?
…I’m still stuck on the frenzy to judge Obama’s worth by his willingness to attack Clinton. I spent part of the day of the debate watching a parade of talking heads expatiate endlessly on how dire was the need for Obama to go macho. It was “journalism” at its most useless. The ability to eviscerate your opponents is far less important in a President than the ability to defend yourself. In the nine primary campaigns I’ve covered, the willingness to attack was a) a sign of desperation and b) a leading indicator of failure, especially if it became the defining characteristic of a candidacy.
I have total sympathy for Klein’s sentiment, but he is simply wrong about history. In 2000, Bill Bradley raised more money than Gore and was ahead in the polls in New Hampshire. But he was so concerned about damaging Gore’s chances in the general election that he forgot that his goal was to prevent Gore from getting to the general election. Bradley kept his powder dry and never explained why Gore was so vulnerable to defeat. Gore, who had no compunction about negative campaigning, ate his lunch. Gore lived by a simple philosophy:
In 1991, in a presidential campaign, he said during a rare unguarded moment that you have to be willing to “rip the heart and lungs out of anybody else in the race.”
If Bradley had a problem in 2000, Barack Obama faces an even greater hurdle today. First, Obama’s appeal is not his experience or the specifics of his policies. His appeal is that he is ‘a different kind of politician’, who is ‘above the fray’ and can ‘work across the aisle’ to ‘get things done’. By staking out that turf, he makes it difficult to go negative without mussing up his carefully crafted image. But, the only way to beat Hillary Clinton is to talk about her shortcomings. It’s not like the Republicans won’t bring them up in the general. It is better that we address them now. Klein says that going negative is always a sign of desperation and a leading indicator of failure. But, history shows that candidates that try to take the high road against institutional frontrunners, fail to make their case…and lose. Dukakis ran against a man that should have been in prison for his role in Iran-Contra, and he refused to go on the offensive. Tsongas won New Hampshire, Maryland, Arizona, Washington, and Utah, but ran out of money and dropped out of the race. Bradley lost New Hampshire by a mere 4,000 votes and never got to use his money advantage.
I firmly believe that Dukakis, Tsongas, and Bradley all had the potential to win, if only they had made their cases forcefully. A failure to explain why their opponents were unacceptable prevented them from making the sharp distinctions they needed to make. Why discontinue the Reagan revolution? Why gamble on Bill Clinton? Why will Al Gore be so vulnerable?
If Barack Obama wants rank and file Democrats to reject Hillary Clinton, he has to say things about her that explain why she is wrong on policy, why she is dishonest, why she is trying to have all sides of every issue, why she is vulnerable in the general. If he doesn’t do it, he will lose.
John Edwards understands this. Joe Klein doesn’t.
It has been argued that Obama’s style is too cerebral, too élitist. That may be true. He assumes a maturity in his audiences, and in the press, that simply may not exist. But given the stakes in 2008, perhaps it’s time for all of us to grow up and meet the challenge of a difficult moment for our country.
I welcome Klein’s appeal for more maturity from the press. It’s not that I disagree with his sentiment…at all. But Obama doesn’t have the luxury of taking the high road. We’ve been here before many times. Back in the 1950’s a woman, upon hearing an Adlai Stevenson speech, told him, “Mr. Stevenson, you’ve just won the vote of every thinking American.” Stevenson responded, “Ah, yes, but I need a majority.”
That was snark. Obama doesn’t need to be mean or trick unthinking Americans into voting for him. He needs to make Democrats understand why Hillary Clinton is unacceptable. And he can’t do that without going negative. If he doesn’t wise up, he’ll go down in history with the other champions of the white liberal elite…as a loser.
I hope that you realize that the Senator is in a very tough position. When or if Obama goes negative, he’ll have to do it by proxy. Because I guarantee you, if he does it himself, he’ll be labeled “Angry Black Man”, especially by those so-called liberals and progressives who delude themselves into thinking that they “really don’t see race”. If he does it by proxy, he’ll look weak, not “above the fray”, but that he’s too wimpy to say it himself. Imagine him on a gabfest when they ask about so-and-so’s statement regarding whoever and the Senator will either have to say it himself (ABM) or say “Well, so-and-so is certainly entitled to their opinion.”(flaky).
sure, I do recognize that he’s in a difficult position. So is anyone that would attack Hillary Clinton. But if he wants to be president he has to tear her down. Look, I do it all the time. I am extremely critical of Hillary Clinton and especially her staff and advisers. Obama has to make a case that she is not a true liberal and that she is vulnerable in the general. If he doesn’t, the Dems will vote for her. It’s that simple.
Proxy attacks won’t do it. Obama can benefit, marginally, from Edwards’ attacks. But it won’t be enough unless he is willing to do it.
To mix metaphors, Obama needs to thread the needle. He needs to point out why he is better than Hilary without actually getting nasty. We have blurred the line between critique and character assassination. Barack has to critique Hilary without appearing to try to assassinate her.
I think he managed it pretty well in the Debate, firmly but not with anger disagreeing with Hilary. I also think that Obama, not Edwards is going to reap the benefits of the latter’s attacks on Clinton. It will look like Gephart’s taking both him and Dean down on 2004. There are too many candidates in this race for negatives to really help you.
Actually Biden did show an interesting tactic for our candidates to take. They can show how tough they are by responding to Republican attacks now, rather than by attacking their colleges.
Barack still has room to improve his positives and should concentrate on that so long as other candidates are willing to do the less pleasant task of driving up Hilary’s negatives. To the extent that I agree with you it is that Barack can improve his positives by showing that he is able to fight hard when he has to, but only when he has to.
Here is a cold bucket of water:
The white liberal elite is basically made up of seculars, liberals, and college graduates, esp. but limited to those making over $100,000/year.
Obama is their candidate, but he has lost them. And he lost them because he isn’t fighting. He is not distinguishing himself from Hillary on policy and he isn’t out there taking the fight to the Republicans. Dean did that. That’s why Dean had the love. Obama refuses to do it, so the elites are gravitating to the front-runner.
Man, I’ve come to realize it’s just not in him to get down in the gutter and fight. You can hope all you want (as I do), and even if his handlers convince him to do it, it won’t be natural, and will likely fail. He’s staked his candidacy on what really is his personality. He’ll win or lose with it.
l think obama’s problems are much deeper than just his intellectualism and unwillingness to go toe to toe with hillary…imo, they’re not that different in their positions.
he may attempt to couch himself as ‘a different kind of politician’ but the biggest difference l see is that he voices a slightly less overt ‘centrist’ position that hillary can/will because of her penchant for triangulation…ergo, he’s got a isosceles triangle, to hillary’s equilateral one.
plus, as fabooj notes above, the msm will decimate him over it…and the ratbub’s will do a ‘swiftboating’ on him that’ll make the attack on kerry look like an outing at the park.
the answer for obama is not to attack clinton from the position he now holds, but to move farther to the left/progressive side of the spectrum…an action he is not willing to take, apparently.
furthermore, at this rate, obama will not survive the primaries, imo. l would posit that he and/or his campaign are fully aware of that possibility, and are carefully structuring their ‘attacks’ on hillary with an eye to maintaining a position that may lead to the vp slot.
cynical?
perhaps…but given the current situation, l see no other conclusion that makes as much sense…he’s either different from hillary, or he’s not, and, beyond rhetorical positions, l see little there to support the supposition that he is.
we don’t need ‘a different kind of politician’, we need a change in the status quo.
lTMF’sA
what we need and what will sell are two different things. Or, at least, there is a high probability that they are not the same.
There are good reasons for Obama not to run too far to the left. There are also good reasons for him to run to the left. The safer position is the one he is taking.
In my opinion, Obama is trying to do something unconventional. He is trying to win the nomination by attracting disenchanted conservatives into a coalition with liberal elites, and peel off enough of the black vote to cover the rest. It’s an interesting strategy and would probably be good in the general election, where labor/hardhats, and other coalition members have nowhere else to go.
Edwards is going for redmeat and populism. That works for him, but would not work well for Obama, IMO.
let’s extrapolate, from your position, that he pulls off the nomination, with the expectation that, in the general election, he will attract the… “disenchanted conservatives into a coalition with liberal elites, and peel off enough of the black vote to cover the rest. It’s an interesting strategy and would probably be good in the general election, where labor/hardhats, and other coalition members have nowhere else to go.”
interesting as that possibility may be, what is the probability, in your opinion, that this will occur, even yet, successful?
l would argue that they’re slim and none, and slim’s already left the building. l hesitate to bring it up, but, like it or not, racism is alive and well in this country, and experiencing a resurgence in it’s outward manifestations. if you think a majority of voters in this country will elect a black man to the presidency, after what will surely be a very ugly and contentious campaign from the other side, you have a much higher opinion of the masses than l.
l don’t like it, l think it’s wrong, and l have extreme misgivings about the prospects of it being a criteria for anything…but as much as l would like to believe it isn’t there, l cannot deny that it will manifest itself in the campaign and in the results.
based on a lifetime of observation, l can pretend that junk yard dog isn’t in there, but it’s still going to rip me a new one when when it comes out.
lTMF’sA
to be honest with you, Mitt Romney has a bigger problem with bigotry than Obama. Obama can do at least as well as any other Democratic candidate in the general. I totally disagree that racism will be a major factor. It would be if he was running a Jesse Jackson style campaign, but he’s not.
His problem is that his is running in a Democratic primary. In states like New Hampshire, with open primaries, he may be able to win the same way McCain did…by crushing among independents. But he’ll be in real trouble in any state where the primaries are closed.
If I read this correctly, you are saying two things;
Being a mormon in the general election would be a greater hindrance than being black.
Racism will NOT be a major factor in the general election, even if the democratic candidate is black.
So those that would not vote for a mormon would be willing to vote for a black person? Or would they not vote at all? Would those NOT willing to vote for a black person then not vote for a mormon?
Frankly Boo, I think you are in denial about Americans.
nalbar
actually, I know people from all walks of life that would not vote for a Mormon. And polls bear it out.
Never listen to what a person says, always watch what they do.
A GENERIC black may very well get approval, but once it gets to a SPECIFIC black, the qualifications would state. ‘Oh, he is to slick’ ‘Oh, I just don’t trust him’.
I am not saying there is not bias against mormons, I suffer from more than a little of that particular bias myself. It’s how DEEP it is that matters.
I don’t hear to many stories about mormons getting dragged behind trucks until they are dismembered, simple because they are mormons.
Or the media ignoring stories about mormons, simply because they are mormons (the Smarts, anyone?).
Or people crossing the street when they see a mormon coming.
But we are getting far afield. It’s whether Obama could get elected, not whether Romney could. My position is Obama could not, because innate racism would prevent people from pulling the lever when they are alone in that booth.
And then they would go outside and tell the pollster they did indeed, vote colorblind.
nalbar
There is an historic tendency for black politicians to poll better than they actually do, but it has all but disappeared in recent years. Harold Ford, for example, did about what the polls suggested he would do.
But you’re missing the point vis-a-vis Romney.
Even many progressives are openly hostile and untrusting of Mormons. People are unafraid to say it. They won’t say it about blacks or Jews or women or Hispanics, but they’ll say it about atheists, they’ll say it about gays, and they’ll say it about Mormons.
Romney’s problem is that a quarter of the population is willing to come flat out and say there is no way they’d vote for him because of his religion. That dwarfs whatever amount of people are lyingly suggesting that they would vote for an African-American.
Barack’s ‘problem’ is that he has NO chance of winning the general election if nominated. NONE. We have had two razor close elections in a row, both tinged with racial bias and yet people keep thinking America is ready to accept a candidate of color. America is not. Perhaps the intellectuals are, but not middle class, flyover America.
Look at the thread right below this one, about suppression of a woman of color by the media. It is NOT just the media! America just does not care and will NOT tune in to that coverage. A constant refrain on progressive blogs is the continuing existence of racism in America (go to Orcinus). Yet then the very same blogs will act like racism is over and American’s will elect a black president! You cannot have it both ways! Pick one! Does America still suffer from racial bias? Or; Is America ready to elect a black president?
That Stevenson quote is GREAT! I will give you another anecdote;
After McGovern lost the election to Nixon a reporter went to NY and asked a democrat about the landslide. She said ‘I don’t know how McGovern lost, all my friends voted for him!’
So, yes, within narrow progressive blogistan Obama is a viable candidate.
But out there in the REAL America where people go into a booth and pull the curtain for a private vote?
Not so much.
nalbar
Virginia elected a black Lt. Gov in 1985 and elected the same black man governor in 1989. To imagine America could not elect a black man president is to imagine that America as a whole is not yet where Virginia was in 1989.
That is not credible in my judgment.
I agree.
State wide candidates do not make good comparisons to nation wide ones. Voters are able to follow a candidate ‘up the ladder’ (as your example shows) and the fear of the different subsides.
People like the guy next door, but the guy from across town they don’t know.
I am not familiar with Doug Wilder, but I bet he was born Virginia (or at least had been a resident for 40 years), served as a city official in some way, then went to the state house, then state wide office.
Obama does not have this advantage. He is a completely unknown entity to Virginia voters. With a funny name.
No chance. I doubt he could carry California.
nalbar
Romney can’t carry North Carolina against Hillary.
But here’s my favorite poll question:
HA!
Sorry, I don’t buy that Jenna one. I consider that a perfect example of how people avoid telling pollsters the truth so they look better.
IMO a white house wedding would bump Bush 5-10 points. I am surprised Rove did not do it. And with Americans refusal to hold divorces against people (see poll above) she could have gotten divorced and married again!
Why would you show a Clinton/Romney poll in a Obama thread?
Do you have a Obama/Romney poll for NC?
You should know, I consider Clinton to be a strong candidate against all the republicans. I think she sweeps them, no matter what polls show.
What kind of president she would make is a different subject. I suspect not as bad as progressives fear, not as good as they hope.
For progressives these days, it’s all incrementalism.
nalbar
Trust me, the polls back me up. Romney does terribly in head-to-head matchups, and Obama does just fine.
The problem is bigger than Barack’s Hillary prob.! Why can’t I catch some overall joy off the fact that a woman and black man are running for presidential nomination on the democratic ticket? My word, where is the real emocratic party leadership? What happened to the REAL Democrats? I keep searching and come up empty…