I feel like writing this now, before any caucus or primary results, while my feelings are uninfluenced by events that right now remain uncertain. I don’t think the mainstream media or the people that work inside the Beltway really understand the blogosphere at all. We may not fully understand them either, but we have a better grasp of what makes them tick than they have of what makes us tick. We’re fighters. Fighting is pretty much all we do.
This whole movement was born of a vacuum. The primary vacuum was in the media. We discovered in the lead up to the invasion of Iraq that the media was not only shutting out our voices, but they were distorting the facts, and the facts were, therefore, going unrebutted. And we discovered that we could publish our voices just as easily as the New York Times could publish the lies of William Safire, Judith Miller, or Dick Cheney. We discovered that we could factcheck the articles appearing in the papers and the warmongers appearing on our television.
We found a truth deficit and set out to provide the truth that was lacking. For those of us that have been doing this for years, we are steeped in this contrast between what is reported and what is true. We know who the liars are. We know who the lazy reporters are. And we know who has been battling with us (Russ Feingold, Chris Dodd) and who has not (Joe Lieberman, Harold Ford). We now have comrades-in-arms…people that we have been standing with day after day after day. And we have enemies that have undermined our mission at every opportunity.
I’m sitting here listening to a speech Barack Obama made yesterday in Coralville, Iowa. He’s saying all the right things. Here’s an example (paraphrased): ‘If you have been steeped in the common wisdom of Washington DC that says it is a good idea to invade Iraq, you can’t be the best person going forward to question and change our foreign policy.’ And that is exactly right. That explains so clearly what it means to have been in the fight on the side of the blogosphere versus what it means to have been on the sidelines within the consultancies of the Capitol. But Obama hasn’t really embraced us. He’s gone his own way. And that explains why, in the end, the blogosphere broke heavily for John Edwards.
No, I don’t mean people turned their back on Obama because he didn’t pay the proper respect to the blogosphere. That isn’t what happened. Obama didn’t embrace our way of doing things. Worse, he began to use rhetoric we had spent energy to debunk. He went even further. He tossed aside one of our central insights…an insight won through hard experience: we cannot compromise with the Republican Party…we must smash them.
Perhaps because his wife is such an avid reader of blogs, Edwards’ campaign tapped right into our zeitgeist. He came out with our insight front and center. You want Edwards’ message? Here it is: ‘Fuck David Broder, fuck Joe Klein, fuck Chris Matthews, fuck FOX News, fuck Tim Russert, fuck Mitch McConnell, fuck Big Oil, Big Pharma, and Big Defense. We don’t need them. They won’t negotiate in good faith. They’re stacking the deck against us. And we can beat them by telling the truth and getting organized.’ That’s Edwards’ message, and that is the message we have internalized both through our successes and our failures.
What’s funny is that Obama is saying many of the same things, in his own way. The policy differences between Edwards and Obama are minimal. But Obama’s tone deaf to the blogosphere. And, as a result, the blogosphere didn’t trust him. Take Armando:
…we do not criticize Obama’s political style on aesthetic grounds; we criticize his style because we think it will not work to actually EFFECT CHANGE. We believe that despite his being touted as the change candidate, his political style is the one LEAST likely to achieve progressive policy change.
His ‘style’ will be ineffective. Why did so many of us conclude this? It’s because we have watched Tom Daschle, Harry Reid, and Nancy Pelosi try to negotiate with the Republicans (in the minority, the majority, no matter) and it does not work. We have watched the Dems talk tough and then back down time and time again. We’re done with conciliation and we don’t believe bipartisanship is possible without first crushing the Republican Party down to a stump.
Ironically, Obama might be the perfect candidate to provide the kind of crushing victories this November that will make true bipartisanship possible again. I definitely think that is a possibility. In fact, I feel his chances are strong enough that I can’t endorse Edwards over Obama. I do hope Edwards wins in Iowa, but not necessarily because I think I prefer him to Obama. More than anything, I want Edwards’ style to be vindicated. I want partisanship and combativeness to be rewarded. And I want Clinton/Lieberman/Ford/Carper/Carville/Begala/Penn to lose.
In any case, this is the best I can do to express why the blogosphere went for Edwards. None of the candidates were going far enough on policy, but at least Edwards was representing our fighting natures. And that, in the end, was decisive.
I’m backing Edwards for two main reasons:
Edwards is really the only person I could whole heartedly support, but I doubt he can get the nomination.
Obama strikes me as an accommodator. The first words out of his mouth if he was POTUS would be ‘We need to put the past behind us. There is no use dwelling on misdeeds. Lets us move on and together build a better tomorrow’.
The repubs would tear him apart like a pack of wolves on a rabbit.
nalbar
I agree with the other comments, and Boo’s
I support Edwards because he is saying what I have been waiting to hear for decades now.
Give the power back to the people..will it happen, I don’t know for sure, but it seems the best chance we have.
Clinton, business as usual
Obama…agreed with above…accomodator
the rest….smoke and mirrors…
Edwards 08 ;0
…we cannot compromise with the Republican Party…we must smash them…
afuckingmen!
paul krugman had a very good essay at slate the day after christmas, and hit the same nail:
recommended reading.
lTMF’sA
Way back in 1976, we elected a very nice fellow who had little or no real experience. By the time that Jimmy Carter found the White House bathrooms, the Republicans had completely outmaneuvered him (although it took him a while to realize it).
Here, we have the opportunity to choose experience and/or guts. Obama has no experience and may or may not have guts. Hillary has experience, but John Edwards sounds more like FDR/Truman with every passing every week. Either one would make a fine President.
If Edwards isn’t nominated, he would be the best Attorney General in the history of the Republic.
tells me this isn’t just an act. He really intends to battle the corporates when he gets to the White House. He isn’t going to fold. He’s had tragedy and he’s had great success, and he’s still saying the same thing.
In the end, there isn’t a ton of difference between the health care goals of the top 3. What’s different is how they intend to get there. Senator Clinton will begin from a negotiating stance. Edwards says he’ll begin with an ultimatum.
Yes, you’ve hit it. I’m tired of negotiators.
I still can’t reconcile Edwards 2008 with Edwards 2004, and I’ve never heard the new Edwards repudiate the old Edwards, explaining what changed him from a DLC corporatist to a Dean-esque populist. I’m left believing that his “conversion” is similar to George W. Bush “finding Jesus” after his father’s defeat in 1992 – saying the right things to the right people in his party in order to get elected while actually believing none of it and delivering even less in terms of policy. Symbolism? Yes. Substance? No.
I simply don’t trust John Edwards – color me a nonbeliever.
I understand your concern about Edwards. I have come around, reluctantly, to supporting Edwards. But I don’t comepletely trust him — which may be a good thing.
I have seen Obama in operation in Illinois, worked on his Senatorial campaign, and have observed his behavior in Washington. I don’t want him to become to president. He wants to be liked too much. He talks about “Hope.” I have no use for hope. It is too passive. I want a president with “Faith” in the Constitution and a willingness to Fight for it — tooth and nail if necessary. A Faith in the people and a willingness to Fight for them. That is what I want in a president. I’m probably not going to get that in this election, but I think Edwards comes closest.
I wanted to support Obama, but he isn’t a fighter. We need someone who won’t compromise but whose foremost goal is to turn the ship around. And i have no use for Hillary or Bill. Everyone is going on and on about how great the Democratic candidates are. Me? I feel sick about them even though it’s obvious they are all better than Bush. An indication of how far we’ve fallen and how low we now set our expectations.
Heart, I absolutely agree. They are only good compared to a lowered standard.
Every where I go I hear people, good working class people, talk about how America is broken. Yet all we have is a bunch of staus quo candidates (and yes, Edwards IS ‘status quo’). A bunch of fucking suits, as we say at work.
We have tumbled a long way when we consider Edwards, Edwards!, a populist.
We are in such fucking trouble in this country.
nalbar
saying the right things to the right people in his party in order to get elected while actually believing none of it
Except that he’s not saying the right things to the right people in his party. He had thrown down the gauntlet to all of the entrenched powers in Washington. Not just the Republicans, but the DINOs and even the DLC corporate types as well. He has made a direct challenge to all those who care more about their cushy inside connections than they do about the welfare of the nation or its people. He has guaranteed that all of them will do everything they can to derail his campaign. He is talking directly to us, the people. Everybody seems to have forgotten that that’s the way it’s supposed to be.
he’s still staking out a rhetorical stance for an election. in that sense he is saying the right things to the right people in his party. the blogosphere likes him because it is us that he is making a play for. the others are mostly taking us for granted.
as said above, there is an issue of how to reconcile it with the edwards of 2004, or even just the edwards of late 2006. edwards has a lot of negatives that the blogosphere is willing to overlook because he is the only candidate openly courting the liberal blogosphere.
He is saying the same things he said in 2004, at least before he joined the Kerry campaign and got muzzled. I think he has just finally found his true voice. And I don’t know about you, but I didn’t “find” him through the blogosphere. He first got my attention on TV in 2004. I don’t think he is particularly aiming at the blogosphere. I think he is talking to the 299 million Americans every one else seems to have forgotten about.
… in the 2004 Edwards I guess … I don’t see anything to reconcile. I went for him in 2004 because he was the only one standing up and pointing to the obvious consequence of the deliberate destruction of the Middle Class, and saying, “that’s not how it was, and that’s not right”. And, yes, his domestic policies were small steps in the right direction when big steps were called for … but I didn’t see anybody else arguing for moving in the right direction at all, not in terms of the reversing the long running radical right wing policy to roll back the New Deal. Everyone else was playing along (except of course for Kucinich, and I’m not going to nominate as President someone who can so easily be painted as a failure as Mayor of Cleveland).
The difference between Edwards 2004 and Edwards 2008 seems to be the decision to look at what is needed, and then instead of asking what part of that is possible, ask how to do what is needed.
It is certainly a dramatic difference in strategy, but it goes along naturally with dumping the well paid political consultants and going back to what he knows, which is building a case and then selling it to ordinary people.
In reaction to the appeal of that, the well paid political consultants are now telling Senator Obama to adopt as much of that as possible without appearing angry or looking like he is going to upset the apple cart.
Tonight, we see how many Iowans would really rather see the apple cart upset, and if enough do that it puts Edwards over the top, we see how people respond when commercial considerations force big corporate media to give Edwards major media access.
And if not, we are still better off than in 2004 when that New England windbag got the nomination because Iowans and New Hampshir…ites?…tonians? thought other people would think he was the closest to OK.
You said everything I was thinking about Edwards. I see a shell there, and I see someone willing to do anything to win. I don’t think that he believes what he’s saying and if I hear one more white person tell me or a Latino person that “But…Edwards goals will help your people”, I’m going to hurt someone bad. There’s a reason there’s a high level of distrust of Edwards among minorities…telling me that isn’t going to change anything.
And yes…I really do think that Edwards dropping in on the liberal blogosphere every once in a while helped. Especially among those people, for whatever demented reason, think that Mrs. Edwards walks on water. And I do think that because Sen. Obama largely snubbed the liberal blogosphere, that the self-important bloggers like to say, “Well, I just don’t trust him.” without any proof. Or they repeat the “doubts” that were media created and picked up my other campaigns and pounded into our heads as fact, despite the fact that the “doubts” are nowhere near the truth.
I am so there with you. In fact, I can’t reconcile Edwards 1999 with Edwards 2004 or with Edwards 2008.
It’s not that I dislike him or don’t think he’s extremely talented, intelligent and did good work as a lawyer–probably his BEST work.
I just don’t trust him. At all.
I just love Sen. Obama. Finally, FINALLY I have someone I can vote for instead of voting against the rethugs. Finally, FINALLY there’s a candidate that I can be passionate about. I want vision, judgment and HELL FUCKING YEAH I want hope. And I want a different direction than any of those other Dem candidates, and certainly the thin gruel that the rethugs have to offer.
(Also, a small point that just bothers me for some reason: I keep hearing that Edwards would somehow be in the FDR tradition, but did FDR run as he governed? I always thought that Social Security and a dozen other progressive ideas were from people like Eugene Debs.)
I don’t mind at all that Obama talks about hope. I need hope because I’ve been angry for the past 15 years! But the minute he sounds Edwards and then he’s the “Angry Black Man.” Or the minute he “angrily” attacks Clinton, he’ll be worse than Rick Lazio.
He’s got to both give hope and not fall into the traps that are not of his making. He’s smart and plays this wretched game on several levels. I respect him.
At the end of the day, if Edwards somehow becomes the nominee, I’d support him. I wouldn’t knock myself out for him, because he’d be the NOT republican. If it’s Clinton, all she can expect is me showing up to vote–because she’d be the NOT republican, and because I’m not at all gassed for a “Clinton Restoration.”
Barack Obama all the way! Later for Edwards. Coulda used his “anger” 8 years ago.
you summed up exactly why I never cared about Obama’s ‘style’ and why I never fully bought Edwards’ sincerity. As a result, I’m still undecided. I’d really like to see Obama win. But I also want a mandate for the presidency, and Hope in thin gruel.
Thanks…I think. :<)
I understand anger, and again–I’ve been angry and just friggin frustrated for 15 years. That’s all my voting life, give or take a couple of years (I’ve voted in every election since 18 and was politically active before I could cast a vote). Do I think it will help Obama if he fully vents it? No. And I do not want a candidate that will make me feel better. I’d vote for Dodd if that was the case.
But it isn’t just him doing what it takes to win–it is coupled with his vision stemming from a progressive core.
And Edwards’ core would be…what? I don’t know. Yes, he was against trade deals while senator but that was an easy, not purely “labor” vote, since the textile industry hated those deals, too.
Here’s another example, I don’t slam him for his DLC membership. Howard Dean was DLC, too. That’s one reason why I initially dismissed him as a candidate in 2003.
But here’s the difference b/c Edwards and Dean: Dean showed the courage to say, in effect, “Hey, this war is stupid, and I’m gonna say it’s stupid” when it was hard for establishment types to do so. (I knew he was no “anti-war” candidate, which was fine with me. Deal with the problem at hand, and then we could deal with his other problems.)
Edwards was just content to let his “DLC membership” lapse when it was obvious that it wouldn’t help him. No one is running hard on their DLC credentials or connections anymore. Shoot, even Clinton, who won’t say she’s liberal (and my God, why do folks want her to lie??) won’t crow about being DLC, either. Clearly, that’s not where the party’s momentum is right now.
Back to Obama, I trust, based on his background and record, that his values align to mine. And if he has to sometimes “do what he has to do” AS THEY ALL WILL, then fine. What matters to me are core beliefs and the degree he will go to actually gain votes from a populace that chose the last president based on their willingness to have a beer with him.
Do you know what state Edwards represented in the Senate? Have you ever read about RFK? I want someone who will throw the Republicans an anchor, not toss them a life vest.
I do. And? I never expected him to be 100% progressive 100% of the time, but if that’s not an acceptable excuse for his opponents to use (as he charges), then it cannot be an acceptable excuse for him to use.
And yes, I know RFK, but I don’t understand why you raise it in this context. I don’t believe Edwards had an “a-ha moment” to “discover” poverty. Is that what you mean–that Edwards had a political transformation akin to RFK’s? If so, then that’s not very persuasive for me.
I don’t think Edwards ever “forgot where he came from” (it’s impossible for him to never have realized it a la RFK); he just forgot to mention it much…until now. (Outside of his father working in a steel mill. It’s true and I don’t believe Edwards is being cynical about it, but it also happens to play into the comforting, national myth about a boy from the humble middle class who goes on to do Great Things. Not that it doesn’t happen; just not as often as we pretend.)
Highlighting poverty had also been done by the late great Sen. Paul Wellstone, too.
So you’d dislike RFK too? You gotta remember what state Edwards was representing in the Senate. While not solidly blue now, it wasn’t even close when Edwards was in the Senate. Besides, as I keep telling people, how many huge banks are HQ’ed in NC? So I imagine he couldn’t be as progressive as he’d like to be(same way as Chris Dodd .. only he has to worry about insurance companies).
I’m sorry, I read this after I posted.
you summed up my feelings about obama and blogs perfectly. let me return the favor and offer a comment by one of our writers that compliments your essay, and outlines other fears i have about obama:
the Farmer can be a little wordy, but this time i think he’s spot on. emotion is a big deal for obama supporters, as they have shown every time i blog something negative about him. here’s one discussion we had, although that thread didn’t get as hot n bothered as some others.
“Edwards was representing our fighting natures.”
Fair enough as self-descriptions go, yet incomplete, not to mention narcissistic and self-congratulatory . What about: Edwards represented the vacuous anger and lynchmob-hysteria that is the natural state of mind of the blogosphere (on both sides, by the way). Among other things, and often above all other things, the blogosphere wants to rant and scream and it wants to be pandered to. If it doesn’t get pandered to and isn’t told that it is the most precious, avantgarde collective thought bubble around, it gets bitchy.
Partly that is because the blogosphere seems to lack any insight into its own class consciousness. Like the Soviets of old it considers itself “naturally good” and “the natural elite” hence the greatest punishment it can mete out (and metes out generously) is banning people.
Obama is hated by much of the “left” blogosphere in much the same way we hate a once adored lover who has jilted us, because he not only didn’t pander to it, he coolly dismissed it in the same way he dismissed Google when visiting there in November of last year. From the SF Chronicle:” After that, Obama got down to business. He talked about his best assets as a candidate. “We have an empathy deficit,” Obama said. “We’re not able to see the world through other people’s eyes. And that’s what I think I can provide.”
He talked about why his best asset is going to be crucial to this country, especially if you believe, as I happen to believe, that America is facing a critical moment in its history and not just a minor hiccup due to a little bit of bad Bush administration management. “The reason I’m running, and the reason I think I’m going to win, is because we’re in a different moment,” Obama said.
He took a few dignified swipes at his shape-shifting opponents, Hillary Clinton and John Edwards. “Democrats lose when they are not honest about what they stand for,” Obama said. “Democrats lose when they are attacked and when they become defensive because they don’t know what they stand for.”
And then he took a dignified swipe at Google. This happened when he was discussing why it was so important that he campaign as a different kind of Democrat. “If we start sounding like everybody else, then what’s the point?” he said. “I should go work for Google.”
Eric Schmidt tittered nervously. This was clearly a sentiment for which he was unprepared. As long as he could continue to be an individual, Obama would choose the low-paid drudgery of public life over a job at Google? What was he thinking?”
Exactly: What is he thinking? How dare he! How can Obama chose poor people over high-earning yuppies and how dare he to not at least be sentimental about it.
Obama has yet to figure out how to play in the big leagues. He may get there, but his campaign has lacked the focus of both Clinton and Edwards. And it seems to me the reason is that he hasn’t a clear vision of why he wants to be president or what he would do if he were president. That may come with time, but it’s not there now.
As someone else mentioned, Carter lost before he even figured out what was going on, and I was and am a great admirer of Carter the person. I see Obama being the same sort of well meaning but incompetent president.
Thanks for repeating the corporate media almost ver batim.
Let’s all play nice and “appease” the Right (and that includes the DLC – which includes Obama), because we all know they just want to get along and work together. Let’s all sit around and be effete, pseudo-ints and call for moderation and allow ourselves to be shoved off the map entirely because we choose to triangulate instead of act. BUNK!
Contrary to popular, media-generated baloney, the people like candidates who are willing to put it all out there. Will the media attempt to assassinate Edwards for it. Damn straight. They already are. However, it won’t matter if this time the majority of the public (who overwhelmingly adhere to a left-of-center belief system) do exactly the same thing as Edwards and tell the media to stick it. Will they? One can only hope. (Of course there’s always the little problem of election tampering to worry about also, but I’m sure you don’t believe in that. Evidence has a tendency to be lost on the self-righteous.)
As for lynch-mob hysteria, first you engage in the fallacy of the false dilemma,i.e. the blog is just a reaction to the media and objectivism and is , therefore, not a justified part of the discourse. Did it ever occur to you in your own snide narcissism that a growing percentage of the public has become disaffected with the mainstream media? Did it ever occur to you that the media is a bunch of snivelling toady liars? (Or do you work for them?) Second, your comments show either complete obliviousness to what’s going on in this country or that you’re just privileged enough not to care.
No. Let’s do it your way….again. Let’s let the media and the moneyed elite pick our candidate for us again so he or she can get beaten over the head in the general election by the same people…..again.
I am so tired of your argument. It’s like the Repug argument about taxation……every election; even though history shows Repug supply side garbage is just that. It’s always the same old nonsense.
It appears we have some genuine populism going on again, an apparently genuine challenge to the power structure. But you are so inured in that structure you seem to miss the point.
But for me he’s the only one who seems genuinely interested in change and unafraid to seem angry and radical while doing so. You know, when you look at John Edwards and his easy smile and his laid back southern voice he’s the furthest thing from angry. But the media love to say he’s an angry populist or some other crap as if anger is a bad thing. Anger is a much more productive emotion than fear and that’s why they’re afraid of JE. He’s not afraid and he has the ability to convince us to fight back instead of cowering in our homes letting big daddy take care of everything for us while stripping away our privacy and our civil rights.
And damn, I’ll admit, my woman’s intuition tells me he’s genuine and that’s important to me. His wife is my personal hero and I really wish she was running, but anyone who Elizabeth Edwards deems worthy of marrying has to be a fine man and I’ll go with that.
… “Shut up, roll over and play dead, or we will write an article that calls you angry.”
Except … well, except Edwards knows that if he wins, he gets all those interviews, and gets asked the question about being angry, and then he smiles his smile, and lets his optimism break out, and says in his purty voice something like, “Well, there’s a lot to be angry about, but I’m more interested in getting things done” …
… and whether the NYT writes it down or not, that’s what’ll go out into America’s living room.
I think it just took you 10 paragraphs to say Edwards is shrill and vituperative.
Congratulations Booman, Raw Story has your article linked!
Would have been nice had they linked to the Booman Tribune version instead of dKos.
You noticed that too?
I was just going to finish reading the comments before I went back and double-checked on that. I guess I don’t have to now. It’s weird because they usually link right to BMT.
I’d be happy with Edwards. I liked him 2004 and I like him even more now. I hope he does well since my candidate of choice doesn’t stand a chance.
Excellent analysis BooMan.
Edwards talks about the working poor, and he has the advantage of knowing what that’s like. You don’t forget what it’s like just because you finally have money.
I’m also horrified by what corporate statism has done to our country. Edwards is the only person talking about it.
And I don’t trust Obama because his mentor is Joe Lieberman, plain and simple. Nothing to do with his lack of sucking up to the blogosphere – that’s the silliest thing I’ve ever heard.
I’m not thrilled with any candidate to be honest.
That said, Edwards is taking positions on trade, economic policy better than the others and why he should win.
It’s not partisanship at this point it’s class warfare and will working America get any representation in Washington?
I think you’re going to see this more and more because of the rise of Huckabee, who is also taking on a more populist tone. Ron Paul, although misdirected in my view, also is not in bed with corporate lobbyists.
It’s the special interests against the rest of America, that’s the real race going on. Unfortunately the massive money involved in these campaigns gives the corporate candidates so many experts in the Public relations front it’s like we’re fighting propaganda/public relations/advertising versus actual real policy positions.
i’ve grabbed your post in full and put it up over at my place because i think it has a lot of good things to say… like you, i’m not throwing it up there because i’m endorsing edwards, although i think you’ve done a good job of articulating why i’ve been drawn more in edwards’ direction over the past few weeks… i’m still holding out for someone who will directly and forcefully address our constitutional crisis, but, sadly, of the only candidates who have even come close to doing that – dodd, kucinich, and paul – only paul is going to have any momentum (momentum = $$) after tonight, and i simply can’t get behind ron paul, at least not now…
even more than why the progressive/liberal blogsphere tilted to john edwards, however, you set out quite nicely why i’ve turned almost exclusively to the internet and the blogosphere to stay in touch with what’s going on, and also why i started and have doggedly maintained my own weblog for going on three years… besides helping maintain my sanity, it also gives me a voice that, no matter how small and muted it may be, is still the most public voice i’ve ever had… i reach many people through my teaching and consulting work, but blogging my political views while doing the full-frontal monty by trying to put the puzzle pieces together out in public, is a completely different order of beast…