So how do the Clinton backers spin this victory for Obama? And does Edward’s failure to beat Hillary for second effectively end his campaign? And is Obama’s nomination now inevitable?
I don’t know the answers. Do you?
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Bill Clinton has already tried to paint Obama as a Jesse Jackson – a guy who gets the black vote but can’t win. I think that should tell everyone more about Bill Clinton than Barack Obama.
I think Obama gets a big bounce out of this. Everyone knows the key to a Democratic victory in November is TURNOUT. And there’s only one candidate in the race capable of bringing in the phenomenal numbers we keep seeing.
What do you think of the pre-election polls being so far off? Can we trust any polling this year?
I think the black vote turnout was underestmated. The polls I saw, from a couple of days prior, had him climbing past a 15% lead. But yes – that was a resounding victory. The polls had been trending sharply upwards but were a couple of days behind.
Btw – speaking of polls – you can vote in this one:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22859324/?from=ET
Most respondents think the final candidates will be Obama and McCain.
the running last 3 days of polling before voting day is the more accurate data. A year ago Hillary was ahead in South Carolina.
As for Bill’s comments on Jesse, most unfortunate.
Isn’t this exactly what the Republicans would try to do to Obama in the general? My thinking is that Obama needs to figure out how to put this issue to rest now and take this off the table in the future.
And for that matter, dirty campaigning is also what the Republicans would do. If, as I hope, Obama gets the nomination, he will have to figure out how to effectively deal with a negative campaign, which will leave him in a stronger position to deal with the Republicans.
as a Latino I see Obama as being more presidential than Hillary and to move America forward. I cannot think of a reason not to vote for Obama other than John Edwards hasn’t dropped out.
Has Obama ever backed away from his “Social Security privatization” prattle in his book from a few years ago? That makes me a little nervous, you know, his actual stands on issues.
I am also not convinced that this Obama euphoria won’t get slapped down on Super Tuesday. Clearly, it benefits Clinton to keep the voting totals down because her organizations can get the regulars out to the polls. It will be interesting to see how the media plays up the Florida non-primary for Clinton.
If you want to see how Clinton backers are playing down the large margin, I would imagine you could go to Talkleft or Left Coaster to see.
Me, I’m still voting for Edwards.
I have to admit, John Edwards is my first choice. But Obama, may be the person to lead this country out of all the problems given to us by W. Hillary is not the one to move us forward, but keeps American on the same treadmill but at a different speed.
Why would I care to answer such a question?
This race is over, it’s a disgusting bamboozlement of the Democrats by Big Media to isolate the primaries to 2 candidates. Who cares about this distracting minutae? It just takes the wind out of activism and pointing the finger at the real problems in this country and world by giving smart people like you, Steven, some bulls**t to waste your energy on. Who cares?
Obama=Hillary=McCain. It doesn’t matter any longer. There is no contest, no “race,” just a long season of distracting the US public and it’s best and brightest (?? Hmmm, I guess maybe not our brightest??) journalists and activists following how the big donor money is spent. How boring is that?
What happened to global warming?
What happened to single-payer health care?
What happened to eradication of global poverty and economic development?
I guess trying to guess what punditry crap that emanates from the Lying Class of politicians has superceded real human and planetary needs. Thanks, Steven.
Furthermore, which candidate is going to get us out of Iraq and make the kind of drastic economic moves we’ll have to have in order to keep America from plummeting into a third world economy? Which one is going to restore our civil rights and the Constitution?
None. And even if they did, the Village would marginalize them and the Blue Dogs and Serious Senator types would obstruct it, and then claim it’s all our fault.
Whoever is President in 2009-2012 is going to have to deal with nothing short of an economic disaster on top of the endless wars in the Middle East. Something’s going to give and when it does America’s not going to be the same country anymore.
Not even close.
on little Timmy Russert’s show yesterday even before any numbers were coming in, even though Obama was projected to have at least a 15% margin over the Hill, the pundits kept saying Yeah but….Hillary is still slightly leading nationally. WTF? Where are they getting these numbers and who is putting them up to it? I, like Isis, am totally fed up with the freaken media calling this campaign for Hillary. They contually leave Edwards out but he is still getting alot of delegates that he can make or break one of the other candidates with. As much as I love John and know in my heart of heart that he is the most progressive the media made a deal with someone (Rove?) to make Hillary the Queen. This government disgusts me.
The early national polling was somewhat meaningless, as people weren’t being campaigned to directly.
See what happened with Giuliani? 😉
It’s not as easy with Clinton. Some women really like her (I don’t.) But I don’t think either her victory or Obama’s is assured yet. Every statement matters.
misunderstood my comment? What I was referring to with the national polling is not the “early polling” but right now in real time. That is what the pundits were spewing to Timmy yesterday.
Not believing any any sure winner proclamations this damned early. There’s still 45 more states to weigh in. I’m more worried about the damage Bush is going to do between now & 1/20/09. NYT Maz. has an excellent article on how Bush has pretty much destroyed the future of America:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/27/magazine/27world-t.html?pagewanted=all
What the mainstream media did not fully appreciate was the extent to which derogatory racial comments about Barack Obama offended the African-American community. As a white man who worked in the black community in the Deep South in the Sixties I was not at all surprised by the outpouring of support for Obama in the election yesterday.
I don’t see how the Clintons could win back the AA community. And Bill Clintons snide comment about Jessi Jackson yesterday will not be forgotten.
They can’t and you’re right, it won’t…
And Clinton’s Jackson reference was ugly. I know people who were still supporting The Clinton’s just laugh and say, “He’s a sore loser before they even lost!”. And yes, black did noticed that Clinton managed not to mention that he won SC in ’92, with the help of the black vote.
Oh hand me some water, we gotta put out this bridge. :/
You mean that bridge to nowhere?
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/28/us/politics/28dems.html?ex=1359262800&en=2c0d599adfebebcb&
ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss
May well have done lasting damage.