At yesterday’s townhall meeting at Great Valley High School in Malvern, Pennsylvania, Obama received his strongest applause while discussing three subjects. Obviously, the audience was enthusiastic about education (better pay for teachers, and more affordable college tuition). They literally went nuts when Obama talked about providing everyone with access to the same quality health care coverage enjoyed by members of Congress. But the biggest applause line was about ending the occupation of Iraq. Even I was surprised by the thunderously approving response. Nick Timiraos of the Wall Street Journal has a partial explanation.
With Pennsylvania’s manufacturing and steel towns financially distressed, the economy has been the top focus for both candidates across the state, but Philadelphia’s suburban counties remain better off than the rest of the state.
That means the Iraq war could be of greater importance in the suburbs than it is elsewhere. In 2006, a strong current of opposition to the Bush administration in the suburbs flipped two congressional districts to Democratic control. Voters elected Rep. Patrick Murphy, the only Iraq war veteran serving in Congress, and Rep. Joe Sestak, the highest-ranking former military officer ever to serve in Congress.
Chester County, Pennsylvania is an almost embarrassingly affluent place, and the Great Valley School District is even more so. Sometimes it seems like everyone lives in a massive house and drives a massive car, although that’s not really true. But, it’s wealthy. And I suspect that almost no one that was in the audience has a brother or daughter serving in Iraq. When Obama said that gas prices were killing people, someone yelled back, “Killing people!!,” and the crowd murmured in agreement. I had to laugh because higher gas prices were merely inconveniencing that crowd. They’d have to go down to Philadelphia or up to the Lehigh Valley to see people actually getting murdered by the sluggish economy. And, in any case, a look at the parking lot proved that the people of Great Valley have not yet traded in their behemoths for hybrids. People here are ‘feeling the pinch’ but they are not yet losing their homes or downgrading their vehicles. Perhaps they have canceled they gym memberships and stopped eating out three times a week.
But all of this made their reaction to the war all the more surprising. Could it be that their relative affluence gives them the luxury to worry about the welfare of others? Or could it be that their education enables them to tie the threads together and see that wasting resources in Iraq ultimately is tied to lower education budgets, fewer grants, and more expensive college tuition?
Is there a different intersection of perceived self-interest in this crowd than in the depressed steel-mill towns to the north? I don’t know. What I do know is that the war is now incredibly unpopular in the Philly suburbs. And it’s driving voters to the polls.
Of the state’s more than 300,000 new Democratic voters this year, nearly 45% come from Philadelphia and its four suburban counties, which account for about one-quarter of the state’s 12 million residents.
The result of the Pennsylvania primary is going to pivot on turnout. If the Philly suburbs turnout at a higher rate than the rest of the state (and there is reason to believe they will), Obama will win an upset. It’s also going to be important to see if there is differential motivation in the camps of the two candidates. Right now, it seems like Obama has a lot more support but, more importantly, it seems like Clinton supporters are lying low…almost afraid to openly profess their preference. Whether they’ll be as motivated to turn out to vote as Obama’s supporters is an open question. Based on my experience in Malvern yesterday, I’d have to say that Obama’s credibility on opposing the war is the main reason why he is doing so well here.
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That’s not terribly surprising, in re: the war being pivotal in more affluent places. Obama wins on the war. I think it goes a long way to explaining him blowing out Clinton here in the DC metro area (NoVa and Montgomery County, MD, especially). I believe he carried about 70% of NoVa, and, as far as the primary goes, that was all she wrote.
Here’s what I’m wondering. How would you guess things look in Pittsburgh and its suburbs? Obviously Pitt is pretty small compared with Philly, but still important, and I believe it has a reasonably high black population, as well as some emerging industry in areas requiring high education levels (biotech, etc). Is that perhaps sufficient to balance out her strength in the rural areas in Appalachia, allowing Philly to put him over the top?
ya know, Pittsburgh might as well be Boise for all the cultural contact I have with it. I just don’t know how he’s doing there.
If only it would vote like Boise.
From Wikipedia:
And demographically:
So it gets beyond the 20% threshold among AA voters, which suggests an Obama advantage based upon past experience. Pretty low median income for a big city, though ($28,588).
I’m going to assume that Pittsburgh is very much like Cleveland, where I grew up, because that’s what I’ve always heard. Hence, Obama will kick ass within Pittsburgh city limits.
Not quite like it, demographically. I have a coworker who’s from Pittsburgh, and what I gather from her is that the inner portions of the metro area are doing pretty well. (Decent jobs, low cost of living, kind of a miniature Atlanta or Houston.) Typical urban area these days. The suburbs/exurbs are apparently in a rough state, though. A lot of abandoned/burned-out houses and rowhouses (a la Baltimore), a lot of post-industrial job losses, etc.
I could be wrong, but that was the impression I got from her.
read that former mayor of Pittsburgh (female) will endorse HRC.
Back to Philly (via Atrios)
Obama to receive Phila. endorsements today
Has the current mayor — I think he’s the current one, the guy who’s about fifteen years old — endorsed yet?
I think he’s 28 – and he endorsed Clinton
and then there are the conflicting polls… hard to ignore:
via TPM: Hillary’s Lead In Pennsylvania Dropping Fast, CNN Average Of Polls Finds.
Hillary now leads 46%-42%. That’s a drop of seven points in Hillary’s average lead — in just under a week. Obama’s three-to-one spending advantage on ads in the state may be paying off.”
something more tangible – could be good for more fundraisers.
well it’s gonna be more thunderous as economic chickens come home.
with Iraq sitting on $30 billions in U.S.A banks while U.S. taxpayers pay billions per month for the Iraq reconstruction, huge bases and to keep our military there..
It’s pissy. It’s criminal.
while
counties and cities at home go bankrupt or are teetering, laying off workers to keep budgets in balance
the two issues in the GE will be: the economy and the war that’s burning our pockets.
what will McCain-the-one-hundred years-war one trick candidate have to offer?
Iraq war is estimated at $3 freaking trillion dollars and counting. And we can’t afford healthcare!!!
Mark Penn and his pimping of the Columbia free trade bill, and the fact that he is STILL on the Hillary gravy train.
Obama needs to talk that up a bit. Let’s bring home this chicken to Hillary. She hired this toad, paid him 10.6 million dollars, and now it’s time to remind PA voters about his pimping of the free trade bill.
i see no reason to let up on Penn. It’s a win-win-win-win-win for Obama.
Obama’s SURROGATES need to talk this up. He needs to keep taking the high road.
If Obama can tie some or many of our economic problems to the war in Iraq, it’s all over for Clinton and McCain both. The voters are getting mighty pissed off and I think they are beginning to see the nexus between the trillion dollar fiasco in the Mideast and the growing financial crises at home. This awareness coupled with the privileged position of the nation’s rich ala tax benefits and wall street bale outs is setting the stage for a huge populist reaction.
Rebublican incumbents watch out, the masses are starting to move.
The neocons have raised selfishness to an art form.
Iraq is quickly becoming an economic issue.
A bridge or a school built with US funds in Iraq doesn’t have the multiplier effect as the same built in the US. And our roads, bridges and schools are falling apart.
People are beginning to see that we haven’t been investing in our future economy and at the same time have been running up dept for the war and tax cuts that will keep us from investing later.
People in PA fully know the steel mills aren’t coming back and will respond to a message that their future will be limited to whatever casinos and care for the growing numbers of elderly can bring unless there is big federal investment.
They are not stupid. They will respond to claims that the Feds can’t afford to invest in, for example, windfarms in the Alleganies because the US spent $1-3 trillion in Iraq.
The fact of the matter is people in PA and other rust belt regions will care little about whether we “lose” to the terrorist in Iraq if their neighborhoods in Detroit, Cleveland and Scranton start to a lot like Baghdad because of foreclosures and copper scavanging.