I don’t know how stupid Hillary Clinton thinks the American public is but it is somewhere around massively stupid.
Sen. Hillary Clinton referred Friday to the assassination of Robert Kennedy in 1968 Democratic campaign as a reason she should continue to campaign despite increasingly long odds.
Clinton was responding to a question from the Sioux Falls Argus Leader editorial board about calls for her to drop out of the race.
“My husband did not wrap up the nomination in 1992 until he won the California primary somewhere in the middle of June, right? We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California. I don’t understand it,” she said, dismissing the idea of dropping out.
Clinton said she didn’t understand why, given this history, some Democrats were calling for her to quit.
If you look at a timeline of events leading up to the 1968 Democratic Convention in Chicago, you’ll note that George McGovern didn’t announce his candidacy until August 10th, a mere sixteen days before the convention commenced. As for Humphrey, he wasn’t even on the ballot in the states that held primaries. He entered the race too late for that, after LBJ announced he would not seek or accept the Democratic nomination:
Following this announcement, Humphrey quickly re-evaluated his position, and announced his presidential candidacy in late April 1968. Many people saw Humphrey as Johnson’s stand-in; he won major backing from the nation’s labor unions and other Democratic groups that were troubled by young antiwar protesters and the social unrest around the nation. Humphrey avoided the primaries (and/or was too late to enter them) and concentrated on winning delegates in non-primary states; by June he was seen as the clear front-runner for the nomination. However, following a key victory over McCarthy in the California primary, it appeared that Kennedy could possibly challenge Humphrey for the nomination. But the nation was shocked yet again when Senator Kennedy was assassinated the night of his victory speech in California.
Robert Kennedy’s assassination certainly changed the balance of power in the nominating process, but Humphrey was ultimately nominated on the first ballot despite not having earned the delegates at the ballot box. McGovern offered himself as a candidate at the last moment. The rules have changed since 1968, but the fundamentals are the same. If, God forbid, Barack Obama was to be assassinated before the convention in Denver, all the delegates would be free to pick whomever they like, whether they have been part of the campaign or not. Clinton doesn’t get more of a claim to the nomination because she gets the maximum number of delegates in the three remaining contests. She already has the claim that she won the second most delegates. Further campaigning does not add to that claim.
But to raise the specter of assassination as a rationale to stay in the campaign is completely tasteless, especially with Teddy Kennedy’s recent diagnosis with brain cancer. The fact that it doesn’t even make any sense just adds to the ominous feeling that there is an implied threat. Of course, she has now apologized for any misunderstanding.
“Earlier today I was discussing the Democratic primary history and in the course of that discussion mentioned the campaigns that both my husband and Senator Kennedy waged in California in June 1992 and 1968 and I was referencing those to make the point that we have had nomination primary contests that go into June. That’s a historic fact.” she said. “The Kennedys have been much on my mind the last days because of Senator Kennedy and I regret that if my referencing that moment of trauma for our entire nation, and particularly for the Kennedy family was in any way offensive. I certainly had no intention of that, whatsoever.”
She continued:”My view is that we have to look to the past and to our leaders who have inspired us and give us a lot to live up to, and I’m honored to hold Senator Kennedy’s seat in the United States Senate from the state of New York and have the highest regard for the entire Kennedy family.”
In any case, this is, at a minimum, an extremely unfortunate turn of phrase that insults our intelligence. Perhaps she merely meant to refer to the June part of the situation, as she claims, but we already have a candidate that has won the majority of the earned delegates. He will be our nominee unless there is a compelling reason to choose someone else. If that happens, Clinton already has the strongest claim to be his replacement and further campaigning only undermines her chances of winning over Obama’s delegates. As she travels the country on her Insult Your Intelligence Tour she is bound to continue to give offense.
Update [2008-5-23 18:57:2 by Steven D]: As Fabooj notes below, this wasn’t the first time Senator Clinton has raised the spectre of RFK’s assassination as a justification for staying in the race to the bitter end.
SECOND Update [2008-5-23 19:4:27 by Steven D]: Listen to what she said, and make up your own mind about what her intent was:
(h/t Man Eegee)
This proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that Hillary has lost her fucking mind!!! She should not only drop out of the race but resign as Senator. I will do my best to help anyone who primaries her when she comes up for reelection.
Just when you think it can’t get any worse.
I’m so sick of this shit.
She might know that the Left is just a little sensitive about our leaders getting assassinated if she were actually a member of the Left.
Does anyone still think that Ms. Obliterate Iran is a member of the Left?
She’s a member of the Center and that’s not a compliment.
This is blowing up very quick;y, judging by the news websites. Top story at ABC. Second from the top at the NYT and WaPo. Apparently Tweety started with it on Softballs.
I still don’t see it doing a lot of damage, but I think she definitely loses some votes based on people finding it creepy.
it would help if her explanation made any sense.
In 1968, nothing ended in june except rfk’s life.
Oh, I haven’t seen the explanation. I know Axelrod apparently wouldn’t touch it on Hardball, and that the consensus at the Great Orange Satan seems to be “He didn’t need to, it was that bad.”
Again, for me, seeing her talk about it as though RFK getting shot was just some little event that “shook up the race” rather than being the loss of an incredibly important figure, and being one of the most important events of the last four decades, was just weird. It made her look like a sociopath.
The Video of Clinton’s RFK remarks via TPM
Her clarification
She’s toxic.
I’m just shaken. Speechless, having suspected all along but dare not write on my suspicions that’s what the Clintons have been thinking…assassination and she picks up the spot. Crass thuggery.
When you think they can’t stoop any lower.
There’s no more room left in public life for the Clintons. This can’t be mollified with an apology. Who will call on her to step aside?
This is surely the nail in her coffin.
The question really is, who will get her to listen to those calls?
I’m afraid they may have to drag her out kicking and screaming. Which at this point is fine.
Whenever her online supporters say “but anything can happen between now and August” I’ve always wondered if that’s what they were alluding to.
Sick, just sick.
Betcha….watch the video of the interview. It was effortless and not unrelated to the question. Her reason for remaining in- She’s staying put and hoping.
And she’s such a liar…”they wanted me out ever since Iowa… I don’t know.”
Elizabeth Edwards and all Hillary leaning supporters take note:- There’s not a shred of dignity in this woman. You can’t be proud.
Reuters has the story…it’s gone worldwide.
…she’s still not going to get the nomination, not after today.
This is probably one of the reasons Obama didn’t go to West Virginia or Kentucky to campaign.
I heard a national talk show host saying that Obama, Michelle and the children have been threatened.
Thanks Hill.
Perhaps she merely meant to refer to the June part of the situation, as she claims
Why in God’s name would anyone give this horrible person the benefit of the doubt when her brainwashed minions insist that using the word “periodically” should merit lining up in front of a firing squad?
She said it, she meant it. She knows her only chance is to ride into office on an assassin’s bullet.
Since she and her surrogates are giving out this line, I’m wondering if this was dog whistle to her non-bitter gun-loving, hard working, white Americans to get active. Her “apology” was even more disturbing as she seemed to have apologized to Sen. Kennedy, yet reiterate the statement anyway.
Undoubtedly this was a hope for his assassination and a call to some crazed feminist/racist to do it.
That was my first thought on hearing her comment. Was it a play on Henry II’s “Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?” complaint about Archbishop of Canterbury, Thomas a’ Becket, which resulted in Becket’s assassination?
And unnecessary, as you very cogently point out. It is unnecessary to refer to Kennedy’s assasination if she was simply making the point that it wasn’t decided in 1968 until the convention.
But even more stupid in terms of making a pitch to the superdelegates is invoking the 1968 convention at all. The spector of a 1968 style convention should make them all rush to endorse Obama rather than her.
I think this may be what ends it for her. And ends her VP hopes too. What Presidential nominee wants to run with people speculating on whether his VP is expecting him to be assasinated. I’m not saying she is but I’m positive that this will feed conspiracy theorists and their crazy theories about Hillary Clinton. Both on the right and on the left. Can’t you just hear Rush Limbaugh talking about it? The references to Vince Foster write themselves.
I’m completely disgusted with Hillary over this.
Hillary apologised:
Reuters: Clinton quickly apologized.
LIAR
Once again too little, too late
During Hillary’s campaign it’s been one apology after the other.
If apologies were legal tender, she wouldn’t be in debt; she’d be flushed with cash.
Her supporters are saying her apology today should be “taken in context.”
Well, the larger context is:
What else am I missing?
I think she also should apologize for her outrageous comparison yesterday regarding the “disenfranchisement” of Florida voters. Her comments were an injustice to those who have been and remain truly disenfranchised by laws like the photo id laws.
This makes it the 3rd time Clinton’s alluded to this, but the first time it’s been so blatant. Rep. Tom Carper also alluded to it yesterday. But you know it’s bad when Josh, on the front page of MyDD is calling for her to end it on this statement.
I don’t remember the other two times. And I missed Carper’s allusion yesterday.
If you saw my bookmarks you’d understand…but the first time was in Feb. or beginning of March. She said, “Something could happen to him.” It was before Texas and Ohio voted, IIRC. She said it again in a Pennsylvania stop. That was actually a step out of her prepared statements and I only saw it on video.
Carper’s statment was in an interview with the NY Post (sigh):
And luckily, I didn’t need to look up anything. TIME has it.
Thanks
My first reaction was, “What the fuck is that about?” Now not only nuts but also creepy.
This is simply shocking. For HRC to even use the word “assassinated” in an explanation of why she continues… I’m stunned!
This has got to be the absolute end. Monday AM I expect all the remaining superdelegates to stand on the Capital steps, endorse Barack Obama and strip Clinton of her Democratic Membership. Okay. I’ll just settle for all of them endorsing Obama and they don’t have to re-create that “God Bless America” scene.
Hillary “regrets that IF . . it was in any way offensive”??? That is her apology??!!
Hardball now trying hard to give her the benefit of the doubt but then Michelle Bernard adds that this is a historical race and that when you refer to a human life there is no room for mistakes…
Rachel Maddow calling it ghoulish and cautiosly asking if indeed H has been running an understudy campaign lately.
David Gregory asking why she apologizes to the Kennedy family but not Obama.
Rachel Maddow: it’s difficult for someone to be the vice president on a presidential candidate’s ticket once she’s raised the specter of his death …
Same point was brought up on Washington Week in Review.
What is wrong with her? Can someone tell me? Has she lost her mind? Just where did THAT come from?
This is about as stupid as Rick Santorum interjecting “man on dog sex” when asked a question about the budget–completely inappropriate from anyone with character. And far more dangerous.
A few days after Sen. Kennedy’s diagnosis…a week after Huckabee’s lead balloon joke about Obama at the NRA…what kind of sense did she think this would make?
Superdelegates: Do. Your. Job.
NOW!!!!!
Just when I think she’s reached the depths…but this?
I don’t even want her in the Senate. She is unfit for ANY office.
What’s really screwed up is the ease with which she referenced it, as though it was just some little thing that happened to change the nature of the campaign in ’68 rather than a massive event in American history.
Someone needs to set up a 527 that is dedicated to the removal of Hillary Clinton from the Senate in 2012…
I would imagine that she will be returning to a very chilly reception in the Senate when this is all over. Well, maybe Evan Bayh still loves her…
l suspect lieberman will embrace her warmly….as will his BFF st. john…the company she keeps, eh.
Keith to have a Special Comment tonight
I hope he nails her hide to the damn wall. I am so sick of this person. I hope this destroys her political career for good.
Keith’s Special Comment should be no more than 15 seconds:
“Ms. Clinton, hoping for the assassination of the presumptive Democratic nominee is utterly contemptible, even for you, so having said just about everything that can be said about your descent into the 9th ring of the Republican campaign tactics I have but this left to say: ‘Ms. Clinton, fuck you.'”
i caught the video on Hardball while I was eating my lunch. She paused for a half-second after she said it, and it made me wonder if she had realized that she had just royally f*cked up, or if it was a tell that she was throwing out a talking point with intention. After all that’s happened this campaign season, I could go either way.
Regardless, it’s an absolutely disgusting and ghoulish remark and I hope she pays political hell for it. Let’s see how the superdelegates react.
I will not give her the benefit of the doubt ever again. She is one of the most calculating politicians in the world and knows what she is doing. I am so sickened by this.
I think what is most appalling about this was the exact context. This was a line of questioning about the calls for her to get out of the race. She was responding to this specific question: “You don’t buy the party unity argument?”
For her to bring up assassination in response to a question about party unity – as part of her emphatic rejection of the party unity argument.
well, that’s the problem with this whole talking point – which I think it is, since she’s repeated it a couple of times over the past few months – it doesn’t make any sense whatsoever to aid her case for the nomination (without tragedy striking).
I’m watching Shields and Brooks. Shields points out that she is bringing up the unspoken fear of the whole Obama candidacy, that Obama has had secret service protection earlier than any other candidate, that people regularly worry about assassination. He thinks she needs to be held accountable for this.
Brooks says – no big deal. 🙂
I just had a seventies flashback. Shields and Yarnell. Now those were non-talking heads!
Funny, when I saw “Shields and Brooke” that’s exactly what I thought. Two mimes doing news interpretation: Now that would be something!
She also hesitated when she called up the “white hardworking voters” thing. Crazy. Just who does she think her audience is?
yes! i recall that same pause during those remarks, that’s why my radar went off when i saw it today. Couldn’t remember the exact moment, but you’re right that it was during that interview around West Virginia
that little pause is a common speaking element, vis-a-vis timing, it’s called a “pregnant pause” and is used for effect.
no way in hell anyone can ever convince me this was unintentional.
What did Huckabee say last week? You see, it’s in the air.
l am truly stunned.
the depths that they’re willing to go to…the assassination reference is beyond the pale, but to add the spectre of a chicago ’68 style melee in denver really ices the cake.
she’s now an official a member of limbaugh’s Operation CHAOS…which for the irony inclined, is named after a cia domestic intel program c. 1967, targeted at the student antiwar movement.
l want this woman no where near the levers of power…the senates too damn close for my taste.
Precisely. Or maybe she’s working in Michael Savage’s cell.
Martin, you’re being far too nice to her.
This is a moment of shamelessly opportunistic wishful thinking that makes her unfit for the presidency :
http://culturekitchen.com/node/12351/
she comes out with this. After a couple of months of her standing in the backs of pickup trucks, adding some twang to her voice, pounding back the brews and the boilermakers.
You wonder what game they are playing.
No, I don’t wonder one little bit. Anyone who doesn’t realize that the only thing that matters to Hillary Clinton is winning whatever the cost, by whatever means necessary, just doesn’t understand what we’ve been witnessing over the last several months.
I strongly believe that Obama turned her down for the veep slot and this is payback for that, among other things. And if Obama loses in the Fall we’ll see her begin running again for the 2012 nomination the day after the election. She’s saying, as clear as a bell, if you don’t give me what I want I’m going to burn your damn house down, and I don’t give a rat’s ass what happens to this country if I can’t be its next “Decider.”
Calvinball.
That’s what George Wallace did in 1968.
(only a moment, however) and give Mrs. Clinton the benefit of the doubt. Maybe it was just a gaffe, a slip of the tongue, an egregiously stupid thing to say rather than a dog whistle to those who are just waiting for her to give them the signal to take matters into their own hands. I certainly hope so.
But even so, and even if we ignore the complete tasteless of referring to an assassination, I’ve had freakin’ enough of a President who says dumb things. When you’re President, your words have a lot more weight than they do when you’re Omir the Storyteller on a lefty blog out here in the middle of Lower West Blogistan. And frankly I’m not interested in putting up with four more years of a President who has to be followed around by a Lord High Explanator telling us what the President really meant to say rather than what it sounds for all the world like they said.
Devil’s advocate mode off. This shouldn’t be brushed off with a mere apology for a slip of the tongue.
Note the first update. This wasn’t the first time she used RFK’s assassination as a reason to keep campaigning.
Look, if she meant to invoke the assassination of RFK in that manner, that makes it that much worse and is that much more reason why she should not be allowed anywhere near the Presidency.
What I was trying to say above is that even if she didn’t mean it that way, even if we take it in the best possible light, it’s still really really bad.
True, but she’s not George W. Bush who says dumb shit every time he doesn’t have a teleprompter to help him. She’s a smart, intelligent, savvy politician. She knew exactly what she was doing. She doesn’t get the incompetence pass from me.
this wasn’t some off the cuff gaffe after a shot and a beer, or standing in the back of a pick-up in bumfuck, usa…this was an on the record, pre-arranged interview.
look at the timing…late friday…before a long w/e where it’ll all be forgotten by tuesday, yeah, right…classic “dump” time.
classic reichwing tactic, say some outrageous thing, issue a half baked, fetid apology…but it’s out there.
l won’t go so far as calling it a dog whistle, but what it suggests to me is that this subject has been thoroughly discussed in strategy meetings. l’ve watched that vid 3X, and no one will ever convince me this wasn’t intentional.
were this the first time something like this had happened, there might be room for some ‘benefit of the doubt’…the fact that it’s a continuation of what is obviously the scorched earth tactics that have been employed by her and her surrogates, negates any goodwill that may have been forthcoming.
this is gonna piss a whole lot of boomers off
my 2¢
Well, there is that. It’s like the old saying. Once is an accident, twice is a coincidence, three times is enemy action.
HRC better change her diet, this one is destroying her brain or is her subconscious mind leaking into her conscious one yet again? I don’t think I want her hand on the button, not until she gets some therapy at any rate.
AmericaBlog & HuffPo both have the superdels listed and when if not now to call them to stop this. Beyond all this, her tantrums have once again today distracted from what should have been the headlines cause you have to think McCain is writing a thankyou note to H for taking Hagee, the med records, the lobbyists, the IRS records off the screen.
News of this story hasn’t reached The Left Coaster yet. Over at TalkLeft Big Top Democrat is suggesting that everyone is overreacting. These are the people who’ve been offended at Obama brushing himself off or the imaginary flip off aren’t feeling a pulse on this one.
What a surprise.
I had been offline running errands. When I turned on Hardball and they led with that, I was stunned, floored, and then so angry.
I blogged my response – posted here and at my Real History site.
She has to leave the race right now, if she has any shred of decency left. She wins nothing by staying. She blew her last chance. She’ll never be VP. Florida and Michigan are already irrelevant now. There’s literally no reason left for her to stay in the race. NONE.
If this is what Ready on Day One looks like, we should look for a very different candidate indeed.
I just got back from BOB (the Big Orange Beelzebub). The top diary on the front page right now is a rundown of the reaction to this in the blogosphere, and everyone from MyDD to Sadly, No is just going ape. (Booman was mentioned in that story as well.)
I was going to do a story called “Is this Hillary’s Last Hurrah?” about the odds that her 2006 Senate re-election would be her last successful political campaign, but now I don’t think I need to. Sometimes people have short memories, but sometimes things stick with you for a long, long time. I think this is going to stick with us for a long, long, long time.
Howard Fineman, Jonathan Alter, Doug Brinkley…all of them saying her candidacy, if not her career is over.
They’re right. This is really, really bad.
Simply beyond the pale!
I told you she is the Nora Desmond of politics. But do you listen? Nooooo. She’s quite delusional, now for all the world to see.
Unwittingly.
You have all bought into it. HRC is wrong no matter what she says or does.
So it goes.
I hope that the people who are orchestrating this…and I truly believe that is it is being orchestrated, that y’all are being played like violins by Rovian forces that are slavering over the idea of opposing Obama rather than Clinton…I hope that they are as wrong about this choice as they have been about most others.
However, the only areas in which that they have NOT been wrong have been political. So…we shall see.
Soon enough.
Best of luck. Either the biggest Fitzmas of all is headed our way this November…YOUR way, because I have had no part in this demonization/sanctification dumbshow… or the Rats have seriously misjudged Obama’s vulnerability.
We shall soon see.
They certainly haven’t misjudged yours.
Best of luck.
Hang by your thumbs, and call if you get work.
Later…
AG