Out of respect, I haven’t written any analysis of Tim Russert’s work and legacy. That’s mainly because I am a strong critic of his work, and the time to criticize the dead is after they are laid to rest, not the moment they pass away. I don’t want to talk about Russert’s strengths and shortcomings. Not yet, anyway. But I do want to discuss who should replace him because I’m seeing a lot of stinking-thinking on the subject.
Almost all of the speculation I’ve seen focuses, kind of logically, on a replacement from within NBC’s stable of pundit/reporters. That means that the options are widely assumed to be restricted to Andrea Mitchell, Chuck Todd, Dan Abrams, Keith Olbermann, Chris Matthews, Joe Scarborough, and Tom Brokaw. From that list I think the best choices are Todd and Brokaw, but I don’t see either of them as very good solutions. Todd is an up and coming guy with a great understanding of the nuts and bolts of electoral politics, but he is ill-equipped to host foreign heads of state, ambassadors, foreign ministers, and the like. Brokow, on the other hand, is already retired and firmly from another era of media.
I think NBC should look outside for Russert’s replacement. The two best political interviewers today are PBS’s Charlie Rose and Bill Moyers. They are both accustomed to interviewing people from every area of life. They are both extremely smart, and well versed on many issues in many fields of thought. If we want to elevate our discourse, we’d be hard-pressed to do any better than Rose and Moyers.
Of course, Bill Moyers is a progressive thinker, which is something almost never seen on television outside of PBS and CSPAN. Putting him on Meet the Press would force him to take on a more neutral role and somewhat mute his voice. But it would also greatly amplify his sensibility. If there is a real downside it is that conservatives would be unlikely to see him as a fair broker. And that is actually rather important when it comes to being the host of a Sunday morning talk show. For that reason, Charlie Rose would probably be the better fit. If Rose has a bias it is that he is too mainstream in his thinking. And, while he is a probing interviewer, he isn’t necessarily adversarial enough when confronted with blatant bullcrap.
What Rose would bring is a tonic to Russert’s gotcha style of putting up old quotes that conflict with a guest’s current positions and then asking them to explain the inconsistencies. Charlie Rose likes to cultivate a good conversation that draws out the logical underpinnings of an argument. This is similar to the style employed by Moyers, and it’s what our political elite desperately needs to engage in.
This is not what Chuck Todd is good at doing. Todd operates on the surface level of politics. He’s focused on campaign strategy, messaging, political alliances. But he’s not an ‘ideas’ kind of guy. My concern is that Todd would turn Meet the Press into little more than a glorified version of The Chris Matthews Show. There would be too much Village gossip and not enough hard-hitting journalism. It’s hard to imagine Bill Moyers engaging in Village gossip, and Charlie Rose has a way of keeping such things is proper perspective.
The executives at NBC are going to be tempted to go with Andrea Mitchell or Tom Brokaw because of their elevated positions within the Village, their familiarity with world leaders, and their large Washington rolodexes. But Andrea Mitchell is tainted in that particular Scooter Libbyish way that so much of the Village media Establishment is tainted. Any one that was truly prominent during the Bush years is probably a poor choice for a new era and a new president. NBC should anticipate a new era and that should inform their selection. As I look around, I don’t see too many experienced interviewers that are neither hacks nor compromised from the Bush era. Rose and Moyers are the best options I can come up with.
As for Dan Abrams, Joe Scarborough, Chris Matthews, and Keith Olbermann…all I can say is that NBC will live to regret any of those choices. Olbermann is the only one with a decent head on his shoulders, but he long ago tossed away any modicum of neutrality or, often, fairness. Sometimes he says what desperately needs to be said and I admire him for it. But he’s too much of a left-wing answer for the hackery of right-wing cable news shows. He’s not Meet the Press material. He, too, has been compromised by the Bush era. Abrams, Matthews, and Scarborough all have a very superficial intelligence. They’re sharp observers of American politics, but they’re middling analytical thinkers, at best. They’re no match for real leaders and the types of guests and topics normally seen on Meet the Press. Imagine any of them interviewing Desmond Tutu or Hugo Chavez, or the Dalai Lama. Now imagine Moyers or Rose interviewing them. Enough said.
I submit a darkhorse candidate: Bob Costas. Best interviewer of his generation, smart as hell, carries no history of advocacy (of which I’m aware, anyway). Plus he’s already on NBC’s payroll.
Oh, and the best argument for him: he’s not based in DC.
That’s an good pick. I hadn’t thought of it, but Costas is the best of the NBC lot.
I don’t think the people slated for interviews would ever be able to get a word in edgewise if Costas was the host.
they’re used to that with Chris Matthews’ shows.
the same can be said for Rose.
You must be drinking something if you think NBC would ever consider Bill Moyers. They want a team player who will do what they tell them to do. Russert was way to powerful and uncontrollable for NBC.
I fully expect the position to be dummed down as NBC has done with Dateline and as CBS has done with Couric.
The replacement will not be able to hold a candle to Deborah Norville.
I think you’re right about Moyers, although I am not positive that you are right. I do think there is a better chance with Rose.
There will be a lot of internal pressure to promote from within, but also for that reason they may find it less painful to hire from without.
David Gregory was the first name that popped into my head.
oops. I knew I was forgetting someone. Yeah, Gregory makes a lot of sense. But he’d be such a mediocrity in the job that I would find it depressing.
Boo, I’m afraid that mediocrity is likely what we are going to get here. It will be a corporate decision based not on what would create the most informed and enlightened discourse and present the fairest examination of both sides of an argument, but what does not rock the boat too much as far as advertising in general at NBC and what would most comfortably reflect the palatable conventional beltway wisdom.
I, for one, have almost zero confidence that we will get someone who is able to improve the lot of MTP. Despite the storied history of the program, I look for it to take a step backward in quality here. And someone like David Gregory would fit the mold of our current pundit class perfectly.
Nora O’Donnell, another choice. Personally I think it will be someone in the under 50 age bracket so as to have a longer run. I think they will do a rotating host for a year or so until one is settled on. Don’t forget they can go outside of the NBC tent as well.
Gregory is obviously a right wing hack. Ever watch his ne show, “Road to The White House”. Disgustingly right leaning.
Not sure I watched that show, but I don’t suppose he wrote it.
I did watch him for a long time on cspan, at the white house press conferences in this presidency, (later years) and he was anything but a right wing hack there. He was perhaps the most confrontational of all the reporters.
I agree with your perception of when he was a WH correspondent. One might change their mind if they watched his new show. It is not scripted so much as punditry. Thank God they have Rachel Maddow on the panel to balance out Gregory and Buchanan.
Ok, I was thinking it was like a documentary, I will have to catch it. I had a problem with my dish antenna for nearly a year and could rarely get MSNBC, now it’s fixed and I’m catching up.
But truth be told I often felt that way about Russert,(right wing hack) many times I thought he was much harder on Dems than Repubs. even tho he apparently was a Dem, at least in his previous life.
Hey how about Rachel for MTP. No, she’s definitely too left leaning.
Has anyone mentioned Brian Willaims.
I wish they would change the format of the show, I think the quotes from the past or “did you hear this quote from_?___Now what do you have to say, is not the best way to interview. I also dislike the dueling guests, its very irritating on all the shows, the one who interrupts or has the loudest voice is the one most heard.
“he was anything but a right wing hack there. He was perhaps the most confrontational of all the reporters.
That is truly a sad statement concerning the quality of reporters on the White House beat. sigh…
Absolutely the first name that came to mind. The MSNBC crowd is tainted in a deliberate way to get ratings and create a brand there
Brokaw and Mitchell could serve as interims but that are on the way out the door age wise. You want someone who will be there for the next 15 years minimum from the NBC stable and it is Gregory.
Brian Williams would be a distant second.
If only Gregory’s current cable news show wasn’t so awful…
I’d hate to see Moyers stuck in a pile of crap like Meet the Press. His strength is his amazing insight and willingness to examine issues and events right back to their very core. There’s no place for that on talking-point infotainment fests we are subjected to on Sunday mornings. Moyers is one of the last real journalists in America. Let’s not waste him on journalism-free junk shows. Much the same applies to Rose, except he’s not the intellect that Moyers is.
What with all the new tech, maybe NBC could put in an animated character? Almost anybody from South Park would provide a seamless transition.
There is an element of this being “Year of the Woman”. That said when Andrea substituted for Tim she never pass mediocre. Norah & Kelly, mmm not so much.
But I do find Gwen Ifill an interesting candidiate.
Also, if you expand the stable of NBC’ers to the regular guests you get some interesting picks. Lawrence O’Donnell comes to mind. Not a real fan of his but he can certainly bite through some of the Pat Buchanan bs.
I agree on Gwen Ifill. I already thought on Saturday she’d be a good choice and after I saw her again on the Meet the Press Russert tribute I’m even more convinced of that. She strikes me as fair and I suppose that’s kinda what they’re looking for. She also worked at NBC before and she was on Meet the Press quite often.
But I think that they’ll probably rotate for a while, have Gregory on one week, Andrea Mitchell the next, Todd, Brokaw etc. They may also go with a temporary host like Brokaw though there’s the chance that he may be (too) good at it and it could turn into a longterm gig. So, rotating for a while would be less risky. It’d just be curious to see if they actually did go for rotating if they would also invite non-NBC people to host.
I think Ifill ruined the PBS “Week in Review”, in the degree that she had anything to do with and the ruinatin didn’t come from the producers. She helped turn it into a Village Gossip Column. She’s competent, but a complete Villager, condescending to anyone who isn’t one. I think they should rotate journalists who actually write for, you know, newspapers. Maybe even prominent bloggers.
I just thought of the perfect choice (that won’t ever, ever happen): Arianna Huffington.
I think the best thing is to completely retool MTP – change the concept. It could be a panel of rotating journalists, bloggers, etc., all questioning one guest.
I agree about the retooling, as I said upthread I hate the dueling guests format for one thing and the “I gotcha quotes”.
Rotation & panels gives them time to sift through and it would make sense that panels could be more election issue sensitive with their final choice coming after the general in the Fall.
Hopefully, they’ll look at someone who has a strong foreign relations background that could offer up more international perspectives. CNN’s new GPS seems to be hitting some good notes and drawing interest so maybe a moderator that embraces more panels of foreign guests would catch on.
I wish they could get someone like Robert Parry – he’s a great speaker, has a facile mind, knows politics and has been following the players for YEARs, and has an understanding of the deeper history behind events.
But he’s no TV name, so that’s it, I guess. Still – if anyone saw him speak, they’d see why he would be a great candidate.
And Booman, once again I feel you’re my political twin. I too have had my issues with Russert, and I too agree the time to talk about that is a while from now.
I go for Geraldo or Jerry Springer. Put some oomph into the show. God knows, it isn’t good for anything else, so we might as well be entertained.
…so I’ll feel silly if this has been covered, but I think David Gregory or Gwen Ifill are possibilities.
Who I’d like is Bill Moyers. But that won’t happen because he’ll ask real questions.
Course if we ever got out of Iraq Richard Engel would be an up and comer.
How do we elevate your voice? This is brilliant thinking. Either of those guys would be a great fit and a much needed tonic.
Charlie Rose, over the last four years (at least) has had a guest list straight out of Davos. CEO after CEO.
Also, Rose had an amazingly softball interview of Chalibi when Iraq was a story (and Rose mostly books neoconservatives when it comes to the Middle East).
In the 90’s, I thought Rose was moderate-liberal, but he appears to be fairly conservative these days.
But Scarborough is in the running?
I have to admit that I don’t care who they get from Press the Meat. I rarely watch it. The only thing they should not do is get a form elected official in there.
Of course, I forgot to post the link.
I see Scarborough and Matthews as non-starters; they aren’t deemed “serious” enough.
I’m keeping my eye on Ifill–she used to work on NBC (and it seems she left on good terms since she’s been invited back to participate during roundtable segments) and could be that “serious” voice they want…and it would be a way to say, “See, we’re not sexist–or racist. Look at who’s taking over the job.”
That would be one way to ensure they’re being “hard” on Obama…she’d have to be to so that she’s never accused of being easy on him because they’re both Black. The NWA rule, if you will…”But don’t let it be a black and a white one|Cuz they slam ya down to the street top|Black police showin out for the white cop…”
I know, I know…cynical much? Just sayin’…!!! 🙂
Rose seems kind of low energy for that sort of program and I think Moyers would be wasted there since he would have to be “neutral.” We need some straight-out progressives on the tube.
My vote (admittedly a wild dream)? Rachel Maddow. They’ve been giving her more exposure lately in “host role” and she’s doing well. She’s also extremely bright, well educated and politically savvy. Could bring a fresh perspective to a very stale program and attract a younger audience. And I bet you wouldn’t find the guest list weighted down with conservatives, old white men and other inside the beltway types.