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“It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried.” – Sir Winston Churchill
You can quibble about the definition of ‘democracy’ but the key is the vote. Without the vote you have guaranteed tyranny. You can expand the franchise or contract the franchise and your results may vary, but the government must absolutely be accountable to the people.
“If you don’t vote, you’ve got no right to complain.” – Anonymous
Provided your race, class, gender, or citizenship doesn’t preclude you from voting, you have a responsibility to vote. If you don’t, then you are abdicating your role as a citizen and demonstrating your lack of belief in the system of government.
So, the first principle is the sanctity of the vote and your responsibility to exercise your vote. The second principle is that you accept the legitimacy of the vote (meaning not that you accept rigged elections, but that the legitimate winner has the right to govern). This means that you can fight for clean and accurate tallies of the vote, but you cannot complain about the rules. If you think the rules can and should be improved it is your responsibility to fight for those changes in the next election or the election after that. But, in the meantime, the rules are to be respected and a winner understands, abides by, and masters the rules. If you want proportional representation, fight for a constitutional amendment, but while you’re waiting to win that battle you can’t abdicate your obligation to vote because you don’t like winner-take-all elections. In the meantime, understand, abide by, and master the rules. Obama understood this, while Clinton did not. Don’t let the wrong people govern this county because you were hung up on the rules or refused to master them.
The third principle is that your vote is your own and you have every right to exercise it however you want. You have the right to cast a protest vote, to leave a ballot line blank, to write-in a candidate, or to utilize strategic voting where appropriate. But always, always do so with the most information possible and with a thorough mastery of the rules. It’s bad enough to allow your vote to be wasted, but it’s worse to cast a counterproductive vote.
Every country has a slightly different set of rules. But applying these three principles will work in every country that allows a free and fair vote. In the United States of America, we have rules that are laid out in the Constitution that dictate how federal elections work. Individual states have a little bit of leeway in applying those rules, but not much. Know your state’s rules.
In America, we have winner-take-all federal elections, which means that a third-party vote only counts if the third-party candidate actually wins. In some instances, third-parties can gain certain advantages in a future election by reaching, say, a 5% threshold in the current election. If you are voting to help a third-party gain future advantages, make sure you understand all the information available, including the latest polls, so you don’t waste your vote.
Always keep in mind that in a winner-take-all system, the stronger a left-leaning third party does in the current election, the more likely that the Republican will win the election, and that the stronger a right-leaning third-party does, the more likely the Democrat will win the election. Is that what you want? Make sure you are certain. Look at the polls in your state or district to make sure your vote makes strategic sense. Is your vote a potentially deciding vote? Act accordingly.
Let me use a real world example to make my point. In the 2006 Pennsylvania senate race, I opposed the nomination of Bob Casey Jr. for the Democratic ticket. I worked to defeat him, but it was a hopeless cause. As the general election between Sen. Rick Santorum and Bob Casey Jr. approached, I looked at the polls and the polls told me that Bob Casey Jr. was going to win in a walk. I knew that I would not be casting a deciding vote, so I had to make a decision about what kind of message I wanted to send with my vote. I could have voted for the green candidate to express my displeasure with Bob Casey. I could have left the ballot blank for the same reason. I could have voted for Santorum to make Casey’s victory less resounding. But I chose to vote for Casey to make Santorum’s defeat as large as it was humanly possible for me to make it. Any decision was rational because I knew Casey had the thing won. I sent the message I wanted to send. My girlfriend sent a different message and I never questioned her decision for a second. If the polls had been deadlocked, I would have a made decision based not on what message I wanted to send, but on who I wanted between Casey and Santorum. In that case, I still would have voted for Casey because I thought Santorum was such a horrible person to have representing me. Yet, in either case, my decision was based on the most information I could gather and a full understanding of the rules. I was going to make my vote count for what I wanted it to count for.
Yet, it is now my responsibility to work to assure that the 2010 senate election against Arlen Specter doesn’t involve the Democratic Senate Campaign Committee (DSCC) clearing the field of all pro-choice candidates without the benefit of a Democratic voter’s primary. I didn’t like the way the Casey’s coronation went down in 2006 and I have no right to complain unless I am willing to try to change the rules of the game in 2010.
If you understand what I’m saying here, you’ll understand why I am committed to working to improve this country through the use of elections, within one of the two major parties, without bitching about the rules in the middle of an election cycle, and why I am so impatient with people that blithely drop out, threaten not to vote, threaten to vote non-strategically for a third-party, threaten to move to another country, or otherwise show more petulance and dissatisfaction with the rules than appreciation for the people that put their nose to the grindstone and try to push that seeming Sisyphusian rock back up that hill.
Who’s naive? The person that has mastered the rules or the person that ignores the rules and tells you that you are wasting your time in even trying to play by them? And what, by the way, would the purists and the holier-than-thou jokers yell from the peanut gallery if all the fighters stopped fighting and ceded the field to the right? That is assuming they’d be able to comment at all, after the thought police got a hold of them.
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Well, the big problem is that the last two national elections were stolen. Period. I’ve seen enough from Bob Fitrakis, Mark Crispin Miller, Bradblog, and a host of others so that I’m convinced. And, here’s the massive problem, the dems didn’t really do anything to make it better by 2008, even with majorities. They could have tied real election reform to all those military expenditures. That argument about the dems being the Washington Generals party rings true. Yeah, go ahead vote. If we let you. Want to know what’s really scary? Pennsylvania could very easily be hacked and we’re back to the dual loyalty issue with fast eddie rendell. What do you favor more? Continued proxy wars on behalf of Israel or democracy here?
The last two elections and Diebold. Perception becomes reality.
We need to restore faith in the electoral process and legislators on both sides have been remiss.
Bring back a paper trail without exception. The rest of the world look on in amusement when America calls for free and fair elections elsewhere, other than at home.
Good point, but how? I mean, if I had raped your wife in 2000, did it again in 2004, wouldn’t you try to prevent me from doing the same in 2008? Wouldn’t your first priority in 2006 after you’ve won the majority is passing the “Hey Phil Stop Raping My Wife Act of 2006” but they didn’t do it.
Why is that. Well, maybe you don’t like your wife like some parties don’t like their base. Perhaps the evil cancerous duopoly of DLC/AIPAC–and one or both of those groups is in power in every significant post in congress–liked those results. Wouldn’t mind em again in 2008. So more voting, if you’re allowed to do it, doesn’t help either. Keep in mind that people voted in 2000 and 2004 not to invade Iraq. So what?
Not that I’m about to take on your analogy–it’s not at all analogous, frankly–but you can’t just give up because everything didn’t get accomplished after the ’06 elections. Voting in a Democratic Congress is the beginning, not the end.
Do you realize how entrenched these factions are? Nothing, and I mean nothing materializes overnight. Surely you realize that. The DLC was not even a “force” overnight. In fact, I find the DLC to be a transitional organization headed for its past due date–scampering to hold on to southern party members to win presidential elections as the party changed finally, from the FDR coalition. (Even it had to change; it is now the “pro-business” centrists, who are not necessarily conservative. You could be Blue Dog conservative but if you’re populist, you don’t make it. Some good pro-choice folks are DLC. Neither example is 100% good for me, but not 100% bad for me either.)
Look at the Democratic party. As much as some of us wish for the second coming of FDR, the party was ruled and run by segregationists. It was rooted out, but not all at once. In fact, you could argue that it didn’t get fully uprooted until 1994 and the triumph of the Gingrich class. With the Republican in the majority, there was no reason for the most conservative Members to stay with the Dems.
So the party had to evolve. There were a lot of fits and starts, there continues to be fits and starts. There is opportunity to make this party a more progressive one. But it will not happen overnight, and we’re fighting on multiple fronts: the MSM and their propaganda of what “received wisdom” is, the repubs, hell, even other “Democrats.”
It depends on how you view progress. No, Howard Dean didn’t win the presidency, but he stirred excitement and pioneered a new way of fundraising and organizing. He was able to win leadership of the DNC. Was he able to win every battle there? No. But he was able to make substantive changes.
Same with Barack Obama. He took on the DLC-Clintonistas and won. But he is smart enough to know that he will need some of them to win a general. He is smart enough to know that he must persuade other people who may be good people, but have swallowed rethug propaganda in whole or in part to win a general. It does not happen overnight. He will not be able to do everything I want him to do, but if he doesn’t get into office, I’ll have an even longer wait–and that’s what is unacceptable.
As always, YMMV. But to say voting doesn’t “help” because your dreams did not come true after one election cycle–well, I just don’t understand. When has change EVER been easy in this country? There are no halcyon days to return to–just a long slog to make the country better than it was yesterday.
Your party and your candidate are now empowering the thought police. It’s pretty simple. When you put your nose to the grindstone and fight for them all you end up with is no nose.
I read Heinlein in the early ’80’s, and this line always stuck with me (paraphrased):
You may not find someone to vote for, but there is always someone to vote against.
Damn, is that right.
Seems awfully naive to me. Each to his own, but I think you have it backwards. It’s not apathetic or irresponsible not to vote, but it certainly is to vote in, and thus help legitimize, blatantly fraudulent and undemocratic elections. The thing is that conditions change and situations vary. At some times voting is the responsibility thing, but at other times it becomes the essence of apathy, irresponsibility and immaturity. Not only will it not change things, it will make them worse by deluding people into thinking that something is being done when it is isn’t.
And, no matter how you slice it, at this point it is clearly immoral and unethical to vote for either the Democrats and Republicans. While there may still be some decent people in both parties, the parties themselves are clearly organized crime syndicates and terrorist networks, without an ounce of legitimacy of any sort. Vote in local and state elections, for sure, there’s some democracy remaining there. But the federal elections, and government, and are a joke at this point, and aiding and abetting them is not the right thing to do.
The only people holding American back are the voting minority who can’t face up to the facts, and can’t stop living in the past. I wonder how many millions will have to die before they wake up and see the writing on the wall.
you have lost faith. And you could be right. But I do ask the faithless what exactly they expect a responsible patriot to do. That’s where I get either no answer, or something dangerously insane.
These notions of faith and faithlessness and patriotism and ‘responsible patriotism’ are most disturbing.
Whatever constitutes ‘responsible patriotism’ is merely an individual judgment call, not an absolute. You may believe it’s always responsible to vote for the lesser of two evils and I may believe such a view is narrow and naive, and that standing on principle, even if it sometimes means electoral defeat, is the responsible course. But if we are either both right or both wrong then our use of the term ‘responsible patriotism’ would be meaningless.
I wouldn’t think of impugning your patriotism by calling it irresponsible just because I disagreed with you. The only reason democracy works even some of the time is because it allows for the reality that even responsible people can have strongly different perspectives and yet ostensibly, if imperfectly, allows those divergent views a place in the decisionmaking process by which the country is governed.
One other small point. Many democracies where I’ve been allow for a voter to vote a white card, a vote which is, in essence, a vote for “none of the above”. Some argue that such a vote is a wasted vote. I bet though, if we had such a ‘carta blanca’ vote option here in the US it would transform the public political discourse into something where a much more meaningful and accurate analysis of the political landscape could take place. Rather than the dominant, eternal lament by those who see any vote as being better than no vote that “Only X% of people voted and this is why our democracy is screwed up”, we’d have pundits evaluating the very real and important affirmative vote of those who said “No Thanks” to all the candidates. I believe we’d benefit from such an option, but of course, our two party system chiefs would never permit such an idea to take hold here. Demonizing the other party’s candidate is so much a part of their methodolgy for legitimizing their own guy that allowing the option to vote ‘a pox on both your houses’ would render their current ‘divide and conquer’ strategy woefully inadequate. Hence it will not come to pass here anytime soon.
vote in blank, do I still get the right to complain?
yes. I think you’re silly if you vote in blank on everything, but a protest vote is a meaningful vote. Just make sure that you aren’t undermining the result you prefer.
Well, Congresswoman Schakowsky, and Senator Durbin still have my vote, and they haven’t disappointed
me (yet). I still have to see who is in the state race elections. As for undermining the result I prefer, the best way to not undermine it is not voting. I do have a 100% record of voting for the candidate that loses the presidential elections (so now you can figure out which elections I voted and which ones I did not vote)
So you can pretty much count on Obama being elected :0)
No.
Vote for who/what you prefer. That is the best way to avoid undermining the result you want.
Well I’m going to vote for Obama, no matter what and this is why: Climate change is worse than we thought. There might not even be an election to vote in in 8 years, there might not even be a country to have elections in 8 years. So there you go.
Meanwhile, membership in the “Get FISA right” group on Obama’s website is up to 14,254.
I’m like #53 on that list.
Booman, please.
To whom are you speaking in this missive? What are you trying to accomplish by publishing it?
You certainly can’t be trying to persuade the people you allude to to change their ways — though you may be trying to shame them into doing so. After all, you describe them as
“blithely drop[ping] out”
“petulan[t]”
“bitching” about the rules
lacking appreciation for “the people that put their nose to the grindstone and try to push that seeming Sisyphusian rock”
“ignor[ing] the rules” as opposed to doing the work to master them
“purists”
“jokers”
and last of all, not fighters; the fighters are the ones who work within the system.
This is language calculated to insult or to discredit, not to persuade.
(To insult, if the reader is one of the people described; to discredit, if the reader is not.)
Now, I’m pretty sure that nothing I’ve posted here brands me as one of the people you refer to so insultingly. On that basis I say, please, stop this crap.
There is no reason to think that those who resist voting for either major party’s candidate are lazier than you, care less about the country than you, or are lesser “fighters” than you.
Your final paragraph is really a beaut; I wish I had the time to work through its offensiveness entirely. Let’s just be content with this: You seem to be ready, now, to work enthusiastically for a candidate who, now, is ready to endorse everything “thought police” might ask for.
Don’t go painting this as a disagreement between the “naive and lazy” and the “knowledgeable fighters”. It’s both false and counterproductive (unless you want to promote McCain’s frame).
it is hard to express how much of what I wrote that you ignored to even begin to address what you took cognizance of.
It’s not at all hard to address what I “took cognizance of” and you know it.
By the way, Boo: No matter what you may have heard, awkward use of prepositions does not an intellectual make.
I worry that you are quickly working yourself into a Larry Johnsonesque level of laughability. I do not want to see that happen; that is why I wrote.
It appears I was wasting my time. And compassion.
Stole the words right out of my mouth.
Boo, I still have great respect for you and this site–IMHO, still the place I call home.
But seriously, stop with this bullshit man. Some of us feel that it’s our responsibility to show the spine that our once much heralded leader and presumptive nominee now suddenly lacks–and if that entails voting for another candidate because our conscience dictates it, that’s awesome in my book.
Besides, don’t worry. I think the ones who have changed their vote are in the minority. This fraud will still win.
Is there anything in my post above that you actually disagree with or are you complaining about other posts and just using this thread to do it?
Serious question.
“I am so impatient with people that blithely drop out, threaten not to vote, threaten to vote non-strategically for a third-party, threaten to move to another country, or otherwise show more petulance and dissatisfaction with the rules than appreciation for the people that put their nose to the grindstone and try to push that seeming Sisyphusian rock back up that hill.”
Uhhhhh…….seems like a heroic but fruitless endeavor, Booman, one should either get one’s nose off the grindstone and start Sisyphusing the rock, or save the rock thing for when one is done grindstoning the nose. Doing both is just going to get someone hurt.
By the way, is your last paragraph asking for recognition from the peanut gallery (where I am sure I am sitting now) for your ‘mastering the rules’ with this voting thing? If so, bravo Booman! No really, I wish I had half your energy. But after this last 2 weeks of the new, improved Barack, I’m done with politics for a while. I feel like I’ve done enough just helping Barack take on the DLC. Anyway, is there any doubt that he is going to win big? This pro-AIPAC, FISA, gun, state-funding-church, patriotism, and anti-DFH Barack is destined for great things.
Sorry, it’s late, I made two mistakes in that smart-ass post: I used ‘thing’ twice (rock thing and voting thing) thus undercutting my biting critique of your mixed metaphor. So we are both human.
And I left one of my favorites off the list of the Democrats new Reagan: state-sanctioned murder of child rapists. Really, is there any way he can lose?
As usual I’m horrifically busy and unable to properly respond but here’s a brief answer to this:
But I do ask the faithless what exactly they expect a responsible patriot to do. That’s where I get either no answer, or something dangerously insane.
I can think of several examples, the first that comes to mind is the Second Republic in Spain (esp the CNT party), the 1912 garment worker’s strike in London, the government of Allende in Chile, the Haymarket Affair of 1886, the Whiskey Rebellion, gosh and ESPECIALLY Eugene Debs if you want a specifically American (USA) example.
There’s a hell of a lot more to democracy than just showing up and voting. I mean for one thing look at all the obstacles TO voting equating “equitable representation”
Outright ballot rigging/theft/fraud
Polls taxes/ID checks/other shenanigans to keep people from being ALLOWED to vote
Messing with polling stations availability, equipment, staffing levels, etc.
Gerrymandering and all the legalistic crap that goes along with that.
And in general a system wherein you almost HAVE to be rich to be elected to any political position of prominence, meaning DE FACTO exclusion of people from “lower” social classes.
And gosh let’s not forget the Electoral College.
Some of the above is illegal, some legal, but that’s a far cry from some kind of FAIRNESS wherein fairness is some kind of attempt to get the members of government to actually BE representative of the citizen’s wishes.
So there’s all kinds of answers to your question that don’t devolve into “insanity”.
A huge one is activism, whether activism ABOUT voting in general, voting equality and fairness, etc. Or activism on issues that matter to people, whether blogosphere writing, phone calls, letter writing, etc.
That whole “redress grievances” part of the First Amendment in other words.
The second leg of activism is EDUCATION. Share what you learn, what you know, raising awareness.
Third is actually a combination of the first two, using activism to educate, organize and EFFECT change in EVERY way, not just at the ballot box, so that the government IS both representative AND accountable to the people.
Honestly, my first line of attack would be passing a Constitutional amendment stating that voting is a RIGHT for every (adult) citizen (of legal mental competence). Period. Without exception.
And what’s with the “moving to another country” dig? I don’t live in USA anymore but I retain my citizenship exactly the same, which includes most definitely the right to vote.
Pax
Kudos. Good on you.
It not just a question of voting the lesser of two evils or throwing away a vote. There was a time in this country when citizens held legislators to account.
We’ve been so dumbed down to accept the incestous invasion of corporations in government – when corporations are allowed to draft the regulations and statutes, then promise to fund the elections and count the vote.
Democracy left America.
as mostly a third party supporter, I think that most people rather would like to have a third party in order to be able to counter the winner take all scenario. However, people are afraid to let go and checking the polls is not always a good gauge. However, I have come to believe that the only way to break the winner take all cycle is to ensure Independents to win at state level. This country could use some serious campaign and election reform but at the national level, where you have to you rely on the apathetic throng (not only to hope that they’d vote but actually have a clue as to why or why not for a particular candidate).. it ain’t gonna happen.
I wished I could vote but this country’s course has disgusted me too much I feel I cannot swear allegiance to a country that is so terribly broken. Not only that, the lemmings have been following this idiot leader and are prepared to follow the next republican idiot. Shame for people to be so ignorant and having no values (speaking of which)..torture? never mind, the bad economy? yes never mind as long as I have my job, the war? never mind it’s all too big for us to do anything about..
people need to vote but collectively, ‘this people’ are in need of a serious awakening..
Ingrid
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