Hillary will campaign for Obama in Nevada on Friday and Florida on Monday. They will be some kind of voter registration drives. Whats a PUMA to think?
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I’ll tell you what one of them thinks.
There will be no reconciliation until Obama picks Not Hillary as his veep.
There will be no reconciliation after he picks Not Hillary as his veep.
We’re still fighting ourselves, rather than McSame.
They’ll love us when we win. Fuck’em.
has a piece on HuffPost RIPPING PUMAs and SHREDDING them.
Taylor was THE Hillary dead-ender, too, and now she is totally totally against these PUMA morons.
I did not respect her, but do now. She has turned the corner.
I trust Taylor Marsh as far as I can throw her.
Go read her HuffPost piece. Very interesting.
As long as it doesn’t require throwing her.
I didn’t respect her before and I don’t now either. She’s blowing in the direction she thinks will carry her. I don’t think she has a moral compass.
the primary is over. Taylow is doing excellent work for Obama. Would it kill you to say thank you?
Thank you? Obama is blowing off support left and right as if he has this thing in the bag. Looks like the apples don’t fall far from the tree.
Huh?
I’ll send out my thank yous to all my journalistic friends at Christmas.
Obama’s blowing too, per your comment upthread about saying whatever he needs to say. Making this comment a bit hypocritical, no?
The difference is, I believe he’s doing that to help others. I believe Taylor changes rhetoric to help herself.
Heh.
I never think a pol is doing anything to help anyone but themselves.
The trick is to put them into a position where the best way to help themselves IS to help others.
I’ve found that I’m almost never disappointed in politicians if I trust their self-promotion and personal advancement instincts to come before their moral centers. In fact, I’ve found it best to just assume that they have no moral centers and are only kept in check by the fact that they have to answer to voters eventually.
Sure it’s cynical. But it’s pretty much how representative democracy works.
as McCain ad pushes independence, distance from Bush
“Washington’s broken. John McCain knows it,” says the commercial, which is implicitly critical of both President Bush and Barack Obama.
It is unusual for a presidential candidate to part company with an administration of the same party, but McCain has little choice, with public opinion polls showing the public is eager for change after eight years of the Bush administration.”
Yeah, good luck selling that one, Johnnykins.
Really, the truth is that these poll movements are probably just statistical noise. Numbers can be artificially inflated with a wave of positive news — the Berlin speech, for example — but, as Alan Abramowitz noted, have remained fairly stable when you take the longer view.
Ultimately the distractions can only do so much for McCain. The election is going to come down to issues. “Are you better off now than you were four (eight) years ago?” Obama’s done what he needed to do on Iraq. People can envision him as C-in-C. Thats all he had to do. The economy’s the issue. If Obama can continue winning by these big margins on the economy, he wins.
People freak out over polls too much. If it were October, and if he were down, I’d freak out. But it’s still only August, and the Olympics are coming. We’re fine.
How do we know the polls are honest?
I ask that in all seriousness. There was a scandal in Nixon’s time when it turned out the polling org that most favored Nixon were literally making up the figures….
Depends on the poll I guess.
discovered? and what organizations publicized it? because now, it seems the corporate-owned media IS the polling group, and publicizes… nothing that counters their facade.
Hillary needs her debt paid off by the Democratic Convention..otw she is stuck with 20 million. So its really a 2 way street, she brings the party together. More people ante up to help her with her debt, like me, isn’t it nice to see Hillary out campaigning for Obama. And Bill saying on TV he’s not a a racist.
BooMan is ahead of everyone..we kinda read it here first.
The well connected Steve Clemons says
l have to hope this is nothing more than a feint. bayh brings too much baggage to the message/ticket, especially regarding the war…as jane put it at fdl:
bolding mine
that’s more than enough reason to reject what would be a very bad choice.
Not Bayh, please. I just ate dinner.
PUMAs don’t think. They SNARL.
What’s a PUMA?
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=PUMA&defid=3168312
Thanks for filling me in. No, it’s not pretty.
It seems to me that Obama is busy turning into Hillary ASAP. Starting around the time of the FISA capitulation my luke-warm fuzzies for him have cooled. I’ll vote for him because “we” must win this time. I’ve got the feeling though that I’ll be voting for same old stuff in a new wrapper.
I look not at his rhetoric, but at his record. He has a solid record of good legislation to his credit. I think he’ll say what he needs to in order to get elected. He won’t be as progressive as most of us will want, but I think he’ll stand up to the empire builders and say no more. And frankly, short of a revolution, and I’m quite serious re that, we’re not going to get anything better.
Believe whatever you want, but this country is not liberal. It is moderate, and somewhat right of center in most years. THis is a year where the center is in the center.
Sadly enough, probably so.
And and all the Puma girls sing..
Buffalo Chip girls want ya come out tonight
come out tonight, come out tonight
Buffalo Chip girls want ya come out tonight
and dance by the Puma girl’s moon.
And the word “”cougar” as popularly applied in American pseudo-culture to a particular sort of predatorily sexual widowed/divorced 40+ year-old middle class white female is a sexually derogatory term.
The whole group “PUMA” might as well be a dirty joke, the dirty joke that was also used to some degree to brand Hillary Clinton during the campaign. (Queen of the dry fuck brigade, etc.)
I often wonder whether the whole concept is some nasty dirty tricks effort by anti-Clinton forces from the right (Or the so-called left, if there is even much in the way of difference between them either tactically or strategically these days.), but whether it is or it is not…please do not amplify it with further attention.
Would you do so if there was a supposed pro-Obama group called “Hear Us Now, Government” ?
HUNG?
Please.
This primary/election process has already descended to near-toilet levels.
Flush these motherfuckers and try to bring the dialogue up where it belongs.
Thank you and good night.
AG
Considering that the PUMA founder gave more money to McCain in 2000 than she did to Clinton this year, I think it’s a pretty sure thing that PUMA is a “dirty” joke. McCain is the person who benefits the most from their encouragement.