I’m one of those people that doesn’t put a lot faith in the ability of debates to have much impact on the outcome of presidential elections. Most debates are remembered for whatever gaffes are committed, not for whomever scored more debating points. Oftentimes it seems that the American people punish the candidate that appears to have a better grasp of the facts. A candidate can come across as condescending…the smartest kid in class…and the really persuadable voters are not the type that give points for wonkishness.
Having said that, the vice-presidential debate is unusual this year because Sarah Palin is a relative unknown. She’s a bit like Dan Quayle in 1988 (you’re no Jack Kennedy) or Admiral Stockdale in 1992 (who am I, why am I here). She runs the risk of being negatively defined by a poor debate performance. For this reason, the McCain campaign has intervened with the Presidential Debate Commission to change the rules:
The Obama and McCain campaigns have agreed to an unusual free-flowing format for the three televised presidential debates, which begin Friday, but the McCain camp fought for and won a much more structured approach for the questioning at the vice-presidential debate, advisers to both campaigns said Saturday.
At the insistence of the McCain campaign, the Oct. 2 debate between the Republican nominee for vice president, Gov. Sarah Palin, and her Democratic rival, Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr., will have shorter question-and-answer segments than those for the presidential nominees, the advisers said. There will also be much less opportunity for free-wheeling, direct exchanges between the running mates.
Here’s a little more detail:
A commission member said that the new agreement on the vice-presidential debate was reached late Saturday morning. It calls for shorter blocks of candidate statements and open discussion than at the presidential debates.
McCain advisers said they were only somewhat concerned about Ms. Palin’s debating skills compared with those of Mr. Biden, who has served six terms in the Senate, or about his chances of tripping her up. Instead, they say, they wanted Ms. Palin to have opportunities to present Mr. McCain’s positions, rather than spending time talking about her experience or playing defense.
As best as I can parse this, it means that there will be more questions but less time to respond to them. This, from the McCain campaign’s point of view, will allow Palin to spew out some talking point about McCain’s policy position on the issue at hand without necessitating that she articulate her own views. It will also limit the time for interchange between the candidates and for follow-up questions.
I’m not sure why the Obama/Biden campaign agreed to the changes, but they can’t complain too much. There will be three presidential debates. The first, next Friday in Oxford, Mississippi, will deal with foreign affairs. McCain would much rather talk about foreign affairs than domestic policy or the economy. Obama wanted the foreign affairs debate first both because it allows him to establish bona fides early and because he would rather finish off with the last debate dealing with economic and domestic policy. The original schedule was flipped, with foreign policy coming last, but Obama successfully negotiated for this sequence. I think it favors him.
The middle debate will be ‘town-hall’ style. McCain made great use of the town-hall forum in his 2000 presidential run. But eight years of aging have taken a significant toll on McCain’s energy level and his mental acuity, and it has shown in his lackluster performances in town-halls all year long. McCain at least feels comfortable with the format, and that’s important.
It looks like Obama’s strategy may be to see if can make McCain lose his temper.
Mr. Obama plans to begin debate camp on Tuesday with a tight circle of advisers at a site in the Tampa Bay area of Florida, his aides say, with a prominent Democratic lawyer, Greg Craig, playing the part of Mr. McCain in mock debates.
The Obama campaign has been studying Mr. McCain’s debate performances from the Republican primary as well as in his 2000 race for president. Each debate has been rated and scored, with briefing points and highlights sent to Mr. Obama.
Mr. Obama’s advisers have been studying in particular Mr. McCain’s temperament and mood and looking for potential flash points of anger.
That’s good. Go for the ‘You kids, get off my lawn’ moment. Part of winning the debates is winning the expectations game. You praise your opponent’s debating skills and say that your side only hopes to keep it even. I don’t play those games. Biden will win the debate with Palin on points and Obama will win the debates with McCain on points. None of that is very important. Who will make a gaffe? Who will be more likeable? Which zinger will get replayed on television for the next 48 hours? If you know the answer to those questions, you know who will benefit from the debates.
Aside from the very real possibility that Palin will fall on her face, or that John McCain will forget that Germany is in Europe, I don’t see these debates mattering much to the final outcome. And Biden is always capable of saying something stupid. It’s what makes him endearing. And he probably has some preexisting antibodies built up to inoculate him from the impact of a dumb statement.
My only hope is that Biden flattens Palin over charging for rape kits.
Separately, what decisions has McCain made that gives him his foreign policy cred? He’s been wrong on Iraq since before Bush came to office, so I was wondering how it came to be that he was the FP “expert”.
Yes, McCain has been wrong on Iraq – they have ALL been wrong and are still wrong on Iraq to one degree or another, but McCain has been about as wrong as it is possible to be. However, there is the little matter of The Surge (TM). The overwhelming majority of Americans believe that it worked. They’re wrong. It didn’t work, and to the extent that the violence IS down (to the utterly horrific level of 2005), The Surge (TM) is not the reason. However, McCain will play that to the hilt, and since most people do not understand reality, that will work strongly in his favour.
And Obama will say “OK, so the violence is down”, and The Surge (TM) worked beyond our wildest dreams, and then explain that “Our Brave and Heroic Troops did a brave and heroic job, but the Iraqis have not “stepped up and done their part” (like they somehow owe it to the empire to help make The Surge (TM) a success, and give the empire what it wants), therefore The Surge (TM) did not really work, but of course it is not the fault of Our Brave and Heroic Troops, it is all the fault of the Iraqis for not doing their part. And that will royally piss off people like me, and make those who think The Surge (TM) worked see him as lame and unwilling to admit he was wrong.
Wait – isn’t it awfully sexist to make special rules for Little Sarah? I mean, come on! I find that terribly patronizing. Shouldn’t someone point that out?!
Oh – I think someone just did.
We can only hope that she will have another “oil is a fungible commodity” moment where she sounds more like Miss Teen South Carolina than a candidate for the second highest office in the country.
Oil is a “fungible commodity”?! They don’t “flag the molecules where it’s goin’ and where it’s not”?! WTF?!!!! Does this woman have a CLUE what she is yapping about, or does she just think if she emits a blizzard of sophisticated-sounding words that make no sense at all people will be impressed with her brilliance and think they are just too dumb to follow what she is saying? GAWD!
As for Obama, I hope his coaches break him of the habit of saying “um” and “yaknow” every few words. I like the fact that he doesn’t just spew out memorized talking points, and that he thinks and considers before he speaks – it’s a refreshing difference – but all that umming and yaknowing makes him sound unsure, not thoughtful. Staying silent while he thinks would be much better than that.
Wha…? The McCain campaign thinks Palin is “too inexperienced” to debate, but she’s experienced enough to be VP?
Does not compute.
Whatever details of the format, the debates are always a national disgrace (but who’s counting?). It’s way past time to treat the candidates as job applicants, not little tin gods who get to dictate how the interview will be conducted. The rules should be set by independent organizations. Candidates who choose not to participate dont’ have to, but their opponents get their time to use as they wish.
Yes, if Palin doesn’t show, Biden should debate the empty chair.
As opposed to debating the empty bubble that is supposed to be sitting in the chair?