Chris Bowers rightly criticizes the tendency of the punditocracy to contrast progressives with pragmatists, as if progressives are all wild-eyed idealists. A better contrast would be progressives vs. centrists or progressives vs. conservatives. There is nothing inherent in progressivism that makes it naively unrealistic. However, there is a strain of progressivism that can be fairly compared with neo-conservatism. It’s hard to define, but the commonality comes from holding an ideology that is based both in strong principles and faulty or unrealistic assumptions.
For example, neo-conservatives believe that democratic forms of government are preferable to all other forms of government (an admirable assumption) and that the rise of anti-American terrorism is highly correlated with the highly repressive governments in the Middle East (an important insight). The problem comes from their proposed solution: coercive Democracy imposed by Westerners that causes more instability than flowering freedoms. There is a strain of progressivism that agrees in broad terms that the cause of terrorism is the lack of democracy and human rights in the Middle East, and which places much of the blame for that situation on U.S. foreign policies (the 1953 coup in Iran, our historic relationship with the Saudi and Egyptian regimes, and our overly one-sided relationship with Israel that denies the Palestinians self-determination). The problem with this is not the diagnosis so much as the proposed cures. Solutions that call for abandoning the region and removing all our military bases are indeed naively unrealistic. There are pragmatic solutions, but they require a slow, steady transformation.
I think we can all agree that our current relationship and posture in the Middle East is neither sustainable nor productive for either our people or the people of the region. One proposed solution is too pull everything out because the region is too complicated. Another proposed solution (the neo-conservative gambit) has failed. The pragmatic policy is somewhere in between. And there is a rather broad agreement about the parameters of such a policy that are shared by conservative realists like Brent Scowcroft and pragmatic progressives like Russ Feingold. That’s the sweet spot, where we have foreign policy overlap between the two parties, and that is where Obama appears to be going in assembling his foreign policy team. To understand this, we have to unlearn some of the lessons of the past few years.
You may remember that President Bush’s then chief of staff famously said that they rolled out their regime-change in Iraq campaign in September 2002 because ‘you don’t roll out a new product in August’. What you might not remember is that Brent Scowcroft wrote an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal on August 15, 2002 entitled Don’t Attack Saddam: It would undermine our antiterror efforts. If you are honest, you’ll admit that Scowcroft provided the exact kind of advice in that column that you want a president to hear. Scowcroft had a lot of allies on the center-right and center-left, but their voices were muted or silent in the face of the neo-conservatives relentless campaign of fear (remember the color-coded terror charts?). The Scowcroft group can be broadly defined as the Realist School of foreign policy, and they are known for putting pragmatism over ideology and national self-interest over high-minded principles. That’s obviously good and bad. The criticism of the Realist School is that they place too little priority on the value of democracy and human rights. Historically, they’d rather deal with a right-leaning dictator than a socialist democracy. They put stability first, provided that stability involves open markets for American corporations and military interests.
This indifference and, often, hypocrisy, of the Realist School has led to many of the problems we see in the Middle East today. It’s a critique that is shared by both progressives and conservatives. Yet, there should be little doubt that there is much wisdom in the Realist School. The value of stability for human rights is often underestimated, and the stability provided by strong-armed dictators often masks the internal incohesiveness of the societies over which they preside. The overthrow of Saddam Hussein has brought all of this to light in rather stark terms, but we can also see similar problems in Lebanon and the Palestinian territories. Elections do not, in themselves, guarantee an improvement in the human condition, especially if they are accompanied by a massive decrease in societal stability.
On the progressive side there is more realism about the limitations of democracy than on the neo-conservative side. Progressives are more convinced that it is foreign interference that causes resentment and a national security problem than any lack of human rights. Insofar as we are seen as assisting repressive regimes in their repression, we are the target of resentment and blowback. In the progressive critique, the best way to make ourselves safer is to cease meddling in the affairs of foreign countries and, in particular, to stop propping up regimes that deny their people basic human rights. For most progressives, this critique extends to the Israeli government in their policy towards the occupied Palestinian territories.
I would place myself in this latter school of thought, but with some caveats. If there is a glaring fault in progressive thinking about foreign policy, it is in its undervaluing of stability. It shares this fault with the neo-conservative school. Progressive cures tend towards the same kind of creative destruction seen in neo-conservative cures. Policies are proffered that are every bit as reckless as anything dreamed up by Paul Wolfowitz. It’s a let-the-cards-fall-where-they-may mentality which is willing to upend all our foreign policy arrangements without much thought to what kinds of instability might ensue in the vacuum of power created as a result. This tendency is born more of frustration and disempowerment than any ideology, but it is problematic just the same.
You may have noticed the recent spike in high-seas piracy off the coast of Somalia. That is the kind of thing that can happen when the United States is either distracted or retreats from its role as the preeminent naval power in the world. It may be ultimately desirable for the United States to draw back and take less of a role in ‘policing’ the world, but the world still will require some policing. Responsible solutions involve more power and resource sharing, not creating a vacuum of power. This is especially true in the Middle East because of the global community’s dependency and addiction to energy.
Which gets me back to Barack Obama. Obama has not called for an American retreat from the world stage or a radical upending of our foreign relations. He recognizes that our involvement in the Middle East creates problems and blowback, but his solution is cautious and designed to work over a period of time. After stabilizing the financial markets, his number one domestic policy is going to be a green-economy initiative to take some of the pressure off our dependency on Middle Eastern energy. That will give us a freer hand to take risks that might involve a period of regional instability. In the future we might feel secure enough to allow the Saudi regime, for example, to be swept away in a popular uprising. Right now, we’d be too concerned about disruptions in the oil supply to let that happen.
When it comes to Israel, listen to the advice that Scowcroft gave in his August 2002 opinion piece:
Possibly the most dire consequences would be the effect in the region. The shared view in the region is that Iraq is principally an obsession of the U.S. The obsession of the region, however, is the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. If we were seen to be turning our backs on that bitter conflict–which the region, rightly or wrongly, perceives to be clearly within our power to resolve–in order to go after Iraq, there would be an explosion of outrage against us. We would be seen as ignoring a key interest of the Muslim world in order to satisfy what is seen to be a narrow American interest.
That might sound like a progressive critique but it was anything but. The Realist School has long held, correctly, that the resolution of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is the number one priority of American Middle Eastern policy. It’s one reason why George Herbert Walker Bush’s administration was so distrusted by many Israeli hard-liners.
So, what is Obama doing? By taking advice from Scowcroft, leaving Robert Gates (for now) in charge of the Pentagon, and by bringing in other Realists on to his team, he is co-opting the centrist Republicans. The Ranking Member of the Senate Foreign Relations committee, Richard Lugar, and likeminded thinkers like Chuck Hagel, are now de facto members of the Obama coalition. They are inside the tent, pissing out. This dulls McCarthyite criticisms from the neo-conservatives and from the Israeli hard-liners as it gives the appearance (and much of the reality) of a bipartisan foreign policy consensus. But Obama did not stop there. He has disarmed the Israeli hard-liners by giving them a seat at the table, as well. Nowhere is this clearer than in his selection of vice-president and chief of staff. If he goes through with the selection of Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State, he will further disarm the hard-liners.
Now, there is a legitimate progressive critique that Obama is staffing up with a toxic combination of people that were either wrong about the invasion of Iraq or that were right, but for the wrong reasons. After all, the Realist School might have been clear-eyed on the ill-advisability of invading Iraq, but they are myopic about their own culpability in creating the problems we face in the Middle East and elsewhere in the world. What is needed is much more far-reaching change. That’s true. But that change must be managed carefully, and it will come much easier if it is done with a broad coalition of support.
Barack Obama would be well-advised to find some idealistic progressives for his foreign policy team. He needs to hear their voices even if he doesn’t take their advice. His strategy so far is finely honed to getting things done in the Washington/Establishment framework, but he needs allies as well as advice that runs counter to Establishment thinking. We need radical change, but we need to do it in a pragmatic way.
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Excellent critique.
You really should consider shopping analysis like this out to the MSM as op-ed pieces. They could use the upgrade in quality of material! Maybe you can even get a periodic op-ed column in the Inquirer called “The Progressive Perspective” or the like. And in the new era now beginning, it might be “fashionable” for them to add a well-known progressive blogger as an op-ed columnist to replace some of the slots being vacated by right wingers who are dying off or crawling off, discredited, to their caves. Seriously, think about it. You’ve earned the street cred; time to take your game to the next level. Why let the Orange Guy have all the fun (and $$$)?
You have consistently demonstrated an extremely high-level and penetrating insight into key issues facing both the country and the progressive movement. And you have some very creative perspectives and insights that should get a broader hearing.
Make some money, get your name out there Booman. This is a much more insightful piece than a lot of David Sirota’s work and he’s turning up all over the place now. He’s good, though not as good as you, or as good as you can be.
I couldn’t agree more.
“Now, there is a legitimate progressive critique that Obama is staffing up with a toxic combination of people that were either wrong about the invasion of Iraq or that were right, but for the wrong reasons. After all, the Realist School might have been clear-eyed on the ill-advisability of invading Iraq, but they are myopic about their own culpability in creating the problems we face in the Middle East and elsewhere in the world. What is needed is much more far-reaching change. That’s true. But that change must be managed carefully, and it will come much easier if it is done with a broad coalition of support.”
True. The funny thing with US foreign policy is it tends to involve the aims and desires of people who are not just Americans. We do have to tread somewhat carefully, because Obama’s election hasn’t changed the reality anywhere else.
My main argument is that we’re still waiting for the sign that Obama is serious about listening to progressives at all. The progressive voices in the administration are being served up on a platter in the name of appeasing the GOP…why?
The GOP will oppose and obstruct every piece of legislation he’ll try to get passed anyway. He was there for the last 4 years in the Senate. He knows exactly how that works. Every inch given to the GOP will be used against him.
There will be no bipartisan support for his agenda. Every single one of these moderate GOP Senators will turn on him and kill everything that can’t get 60 votes.
And yet every indication given so far on economic, military, and foreign policy it’s business as usual. Progressives are being completely ignored at best, and sacrificed to “bipartisanship” at worst.
My question BooMan is this: When does this stop being “Obama is being pragmatic now in order to affect radical change later” and start being “Obama has abandoned progressives because he never had any intention of affecting true change”?
I think you first have to look at his agenda. It appears unchanged from his campaign promises. The only thing I’ve seen him change is that he announced that he is going to await the advice of his newly assembled economic team before he decides whether to let Bush’s tax cuts for the wealthy sunset or to go ahead and repeal them next year. I have no problem with him taking advice from his economic team. We’re in a dire economic situation.
Secondly, you’re just wrong about the GOP mustering 60 votes to thwart everything. One of the benefits of bringing people like Lugar into your camp on foreign policy is that they become your allies on other things as well. The GOP is in full blown retreat and its few remaining moderates will look to use their leverage to get things done and increase their power, not look to do Mitch McConnell’s bidding.
I do hope you are correct. But this is the same group of people whose solution to any and every problem is “When it’s not working, you need to double down on the same exact thing.”
I would love to see Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins and company really work to get things done with Obama and the Democrats.
But as many times as we’ve been burned, I’ll only believe it when the votes are cast.
I should have said ’41 votes’, not 60, but the point stands.
It’s a new day Zandar. We haven’t had a president this powerful since LBJ before the Vietnam War crippled him. Watch.
The lack of, or sacrifice of, progressive voices greatly concerns me.
However, I think Obama is gearing up to do three big things that will doom the GOP to minority status for the next half century if they dare to oppose it through filibuster or gamesmanship:
a.) Game-Changing Energy Infrastructure/Climate Change investments
b.) Universal/National Health Insurance (though unfortunately probably not single-payer)
C.) An Israeli/Palestinian accord
We may even see a nationalization of the banks or the creation of a federal bank.
His appointments to date all make sense in this context.
But it still begs the question who benefits? And will incomes actually rise and opportunities improve? Will others outside the Beltway/Ivy axis ever get a chance to rule?
Because right now we’re getting an elite/D.C./NYC axis of power intersecting with a small Chicago based axis of power. So are we changing direction? Or just shuffling elites?
This is really well done.
I haven’t been very interested in all the progressive jockeying over appointments and, indeed, really haven’t read much of what’s written except to keep up with the “who” of who is being appointed. I have no problem with Obama having a lot of viewpoints at the table giving him advice. Obama has proven to have good natural instincts.
My one concern is that he have a couple of people who advise him who are on the same wavelength that he is. Right now he can listen to opposing counsel because he’s out in the real world with his own viewpoint – he can test their advice against his own knowledge and gut reaction. On January 20 he enters the bubble. Once in the bubble he will no longer be able to trust his on POV and will need someone else to confirm that his POV is still good (or tell him it needs to be adjusted).
JFK had his own brother to advise him. FDR had Harry Hopkins practically living with him throughout WWII. Who will that person be for Obama?
If there is no person to fulfill that role it makes it even more important that ALL voices are represented at the table in somewhat equal strength.
I agree maryb. I think Michelle will help a lot in that regard, but of course she won’t be privy to all of the information that someone like an RFK was in his relationship with JFK.
This is a prime example of what I mean by a progressive strain of foreign policy thinking that is “based both in strong principles and faulty or unrealistic assumptions.”
Sorry, but you’re completely missing the forest.
In analyzing what is conservative versus what is progressive from a foreign policy standpoint, the main factor is defining the national interests of the United States. What is the difference between the Middle East and other parts of the world that so focuses our attention there? You know the answer as well as I do – OIL.
The only reason the stability or lack thereof in the Middle East matters is OIL. Our insatiable thirst for it is the basis for all our decisions there. We know it, but we refuse to acknowledge it. The people in the region know it as well. Their actions turn entirely on the extent to which they benefit from that fact. Democracy or dictatorship, stability or lack thereof, nothing matters except maintaining and enhancing the flow of OIL.
Neo-conservatives could care less about democracy. If they actually cared about it, then they would be imposing democracy elsewhere in the region. They would have recognized the Hamas government – something which in the long run would have stabilized the Arab-Israeli conflict. They would have taken much more in the way of concrete steps to stabilize the situation in Iraq, instead of playing both sides of the fence, encouraging ethnic divisions and arming both sides. The only reason they deposed Saddam because they wanted the OIL. They actively do not want a stable, democratic Iraq, because they know that it would oppose US interests. A weakened, dependent Iraq will enter into contracts with Western oil companies – a truly democratic Iraq most likely will not. Spreading democracy has nothing to do with any of the actions the Bush administration has taken – other than as propaganda.
You touch upon this briefly in your post, but you gloss over it. You say that the Realist School puts “stability first, provided that stability involves open markets for American corporations and military interests.” The proviso is the key. That is the real goal of American foreign policy. Heaven forbid a democratically-elected government decide that its national interest involves keeping America out, especially if it has essential raw materials that we desperately want. Look at Venezuela.
You say “Solutions that call for abandoning the region and removing all our military bases are indeed naively unrealistic.” Why should this be so? Because of the instability that would result? The impact on human rights? The triggering of civil war? I don’t think our foreign policy elites give a damn about any of these things, except insofar as they impact our access to OIL.
Neither neo-conservatives, “realists” nor progressives question this underlying assumption. Democracy be damned, stability be damned, give us the OIL. This has been the ultimate goal of US Middle East policy since the end of World War II. I would argue that it is one of the reasons Arab-Israeli conflict has raged on since that time is because it serves our interests to not resolve it. As long as that conflict rages, the people and governments in the region won’t complain so loudly about the gun we hold to their heads, coercing them to give us their natural resources.
When a mugger accosts a person on the street, holding a gun to his head and taking his money, we recognize it as a crime. Yet when we as a country hold our extraordinary arsenal to the heads of the Middle Eastern peoples and take their OIL, very few view it as an illegitimate act. But this is what we are doing over there. Is there any wonder that we have become the target of terrorists from that region?
To me, it is the opposition to this underlying premise that defines the progressive. At this point, some may legitimately say, yes, what we are doing is wrong, but if we stop too precipitously we will destroy ourselves economically (if we haven’t done so already). This is why alternative energy and energy independence are such important goals for our country. We’ve got to get ourselves to the position where our economic well-being does not depend on our ability to coerce other countries into doing business with us. [We’ve also got to stop equating America’s economic well being with the economic success of our largest multinational corporations, but that’s a different point.]
This has got to be the ultimate goal of progressives in the foreign policy arena. Once we do that, we can promote democracy, human rights and free markets that are truly free, and feel confident that these are goals that are consistent with our national interests.
Oddly, you missed the forest in my piece. I clearly spelled out that our interests in energy trump our other interests, said that changing that must be a slow, transformative process, and that Obama’s second domestic priority is starting that process.
Other people have noting my generous attitude in granting some sincerity to the neo-conservatives professed love of democracy. Point taken, although a full critique of neo-conservatism was outside the scope of this essay.
One country that has not accepted the American drive for oil is Iran. They resent, and rightly so, our interference in their affairs especially dating back to the installation of the Shah (1953) with the aid of the United States and Great Britain.
Our selling arms to Iraq in the 1980’s, (witness Rumfeld’s trip to Badhdad to meet with Hussein) caused deep resentment and anger on the part of the Iranians.
Sending our amphibious assault ships to the Persian Gulf and engaging in various psyops activities is another way of both expressing our anger with this nation that is determined to go its own way, re oil sales and of pissing it off at the same time. Perhaps, our foreign policy will even drive Iran and Russia into mutual alliance. Not what I call real politique.
Finally, this business of getting all our of whack about Iran’s nuclear program is patently absurd when one considers that we are the only nation to have ever used the bomb against someone else and that our trusted ally, Israel has an arsenal of some two to three hundred of those cursed things. You want a progressive program for the Mideast. No nuclear weapons for any Mideastern state, no exceptions. That proposal would, no doubt, send AIPAC into an absolute frenzy striking fear into the heart of practically ever member of the United States Congress.
Let’s not confuse access to oil with Big Oil’s control of oil. Invading Iraq actually took oil resources in Iraq offline, thus boosting prices, thus hurting the U.S. and world economy. All in the name of protecting our access to oil.
The war in Georgia was backed by our Administration to create a situation that would create a threat to the pipelines across Georgia, in order to help that whole business in Afghanistan of running that pipeline down to the Indian Ocean. And that oil wasn’t going to go to us anyway. In fact most oil from the Mideast isn’t going anywhere near us.
Does anyone think that adding the cost of our military bases and wars and the navy fleets in the area to the cost of a gallon of gas is a cheaper way of getting energy?
Big Oil has had undue influence on our foreign policy for its own benefit. Controlling other peoples’ resources with our military for the benefit of corporations and to the detriment of the general population is not naive. Thinking that we’re putting bases in the Stan Lands for anything other than control of oil is naive.
Wonderful essay, butI was a bit surprised by your assertion that progressives primarily want to introduce democracy and human rights to foreign countries. We will never get anywhere with that task until we change the poverty, misery, and ignorance in which so many millions of people are confined. How can democracy function in a society where everybody is hungry and nobody can read or write? Food, clothing, shelter, education, and health care must come first.
Good point, Katherine!
Thanks for another thoughtful and thought-provoking piece.
You write, “If there is a glaring fault in progressive thinking about foreign policy, it is in its undervaluing of stability. It shares this fault with the neo-conservative school. Progressive cures tend towards the same kind of creative destruction seen in neo-conservative cures.”
I agree, and I think the resemblance can be explained by the fact that the Neocons are direct descendants of the Schachtmanite wing of Trostkyists, i.e. they originated in a branch of the far left that, through a peculiar process of leftist dialectics stemming from the opposition to Stalinism, brought them far to the right. The content of their thought is one thing, but the FORM of their thinking still reflects their leftist origins. I know this is a favorite paleoconservative talking point (they loathe the Neocons) — but it’s actually true.
Would adding Samantha Power to the foreign policy team add balance? I don’t know where she actually stands on issues. And what about Susan Rice, the UN ambassador-designate?