I watched Afghan Ambassador to the United States Said Tayeb Jawad give a speech and take questions today at the Johns Hopkins’ Paul H. Nitze School of Advanced International Studies. He is a good spokesman for his government. But he brought up something that has been troubling me for quite a while and that has become an acute concern now that Obama has decided to make an extra commitment in Afghanistan.
Ambassador Jawad mentioned that the Afghan Army was originally intended to be no larger than 32,000 troops because there is no way for such a poor country to pay for anything larger. It was later adjusted up to 79,000, and is now supposed to be something closer to 150,000. Now, his point was that we are making a better investment when we pay for a larger army and for their equipment than when we spend $1 million annually for each American or NATO troop. Obviously, with Afghanistan being larger geographically and more rugged than Iraq, an army of 32,000 is totally inadequate to secure the country. If we ever want to leave, we’re going to have to build a bigger Afghan Army. But, as he pointed out, they cannot even begin to pay for such a large force by themselves.
And, I think, unfortunately, this is where the issue of Afghanistan being a narco-state comes into play. With opium production being such a large part of the economy, it’s militarily crazy to allow all that money to be controlled by the enemy. Where is the government supposed to get the money to compete? When elements of the Karzai government (his brother, for example) have control of narcotics, they not only have money to throw around, but they deny that money to the insurgents. What do you think is going to happen under those circumstances?
Now, I am not a purist who thinks you can operate in a place like Afghanistan (as the indigenous government or as an expeditionary force) without getting your hands dirty. I understand that. But these are the kinds of choices we wind up making when we get ourselves so deeply involved and invested there. It’s one more reason why we need to question the true costs of what were trying to accomplish versus what we stand to get out of it.
When we talk about standing up a 150,000 strong Afghan Army, and we know that they can’t afford such a large force, then we’re pretty much guaranteeing that they will rely on revenue from narcotics, especially when our level of aid tapers off later on down the road. We talk about how corrupt the Karzai government is, but we don’t really think about why.
In my opinion, we’re going about this the wrong way. Rather than training up a huge force with modern weapons and conventional tactics, we should focus on creating a force that is light and nimble, like the guerilla forces they are facing. Above all, it should be able to arm and feed itself with little outside assistance. Yes, they need heavy artillery and helicopters, but not much more.
But, really, I just question whether we can do what we want to do at an acceptable cost and in a reasonable time. We’re going to try, and I don’t see the effort as immoral. But if they had asked me, I would have advised against it. I would have advised some strategy that would be affordable for the Afghan government with little outside financial assistance. If we had been smarter in the beginning, maybe we would have had time to help build a government with the capability to raise sufficient revenues to compete with a narco-funded army instead of being one itself. I think that it is now too late.
In spite of all this, if we are going to make the effort, I hope we are successful in both rolling back the gains of the insurgency and being able to bring our troops home beginning in July 2011. But, as Ambassador Jawad said today, their own plan calls for them to be 100% capable of protecting their own security in five years. I’ll believe that when I see it.
We are creating their army in our own image, we can’t afford ours either. They don’t have a Fed to print money or an Asian bank to buy their debt.I agree with you, a light, fast moving, helicopter insertion based force would be the best and the most effective army. The locals would be in their element and the cost would be more easily met.
To get a better understanding of the type of battles that are being fought in Afganistan, I recommend reading “Lone Survivor” the story of SEAL Team 10. There is no quit in the SEALs or the taliban, they need to be fought on their own terrain with forces trained to do so.
A US designed military comes with a cost structure that’s unsustainable without US aid and a reliance on US air power.
The performance of colonial troops is invariably distorted by the lens of American racism. Everyone, the military, media and public know those [insert pejorative here] are only good for running away, won’t stand and fight, are with the other side, etc.
Correction above: Replacing reliance with dependence would be more doctrinally accurate.
Well.. if all the battles fought in Afghanistan were like the one in “Lone Survivor” then we are in major trouble.
The book will make a good movie but that’s about it. No special ops team should be moving out in Afghanistan without access to air support or backup teams on standby. These guys should have tactically retreated as soon as they knew their situation was compromised.
Worse, the author blames the death of his team members on liberalism and attacks the liberal media every 10 pages.
Again, we would be at a major disadvantage in Afghanistan if all battles were like this without heavy weapons and air support.
The author is a SEAL warrior from Texas who loved Bush, his attacking and blaming the liberal media was really too much and almost caused me to stop reading the book, glad I read on.
Their situation was compromised at the point they released those goat herders. I don’t think they had much choice because killing them would have definitely caused a search party to start where the goats were mingling near the dead humans, releasing them created a possibility. Their retreat as they “fell down the mountain” battling the Taliban was really worth reading. They do not send SEAL teams into hostile territory without backup ready.
I guess my point was more that our special forces, in the best shape possible, were not near the shape of the locals, of any age, who grew up at high elevation, walking the goat trails, and knew every path and cave. It’s difficult to effectively fight the fierce high mountain trained Taliban with a sea level trained army.
My suggestion… legalize marijuana here in the States. Give Afghan farmers a 2-year “head’s up” that we’ll spray their poppies after that time, and give them the chance to convert to growing weed – for legal sale to the US market! If we really want to prop them up, then we enter into agreement that we’ll buy up certain quantities (provided the quality is good, of course), at a set rate, so they can budget accordingly.
My two cents worth…
Does that grow in Afghanistan? I thought you needed a lot of moisture.
Um, yeah.
Damn that sucks.
Weed is a good industry here at home. I will be pissed if we outsource it to the Afghans.
The CIA has been deeply enmeshed in the drug trade for years. Good luck asking them to give up their cash cow in the poppy fields of Afghanistan.
Wouldn’t it be cheaper for NATO as a whole to just BUY the opium at slightly better prices than the Taliban or cartels or whoever? Then we can burn it or whatnot.
Bidding war
The idea that we can outspend others who want the trade to continue is flawed.
And how do we dispose of the crops? Just because farmers get paid doesn’t mean they will destroy the crops; they might take our money and sell to their normal customers anyway.
Brendan and I tried to figure out where the opium that the pharmaceuticals use is grown and we got the run around. If you have better luck, I’d love to know. If I were president, I’d want to know and want to know how much they pay compared to Afghan processors.
see my comment below!
Opium is a resource like any other. If we got over the childish devil theory I’m sure we could find plenty of uses. Lower the insane cost of medical morphine for starters.
It’s not the use, it’s the production quantity that is worrisome. Decriminalizing it but keeping it strictly regulated makes sense, as does improving treatment for addiction.
But the excess quantities still will find their way to the black market and street use. The distribution channels are well-established, and decriminalization would merely lower the cost of distribution.
Not if it was decriminalized without all the puritan bullshit added on.
Well, decriminalized and consumed in large quantities. Good luck!
Or to put it another way:
So?
This makes no sense. We buy the crops, we get the crops, then we burn them. We don’t pay the farmers to burn them, we pay them to hand over the possession to us.
Besides, it’s chump change, it’s like 4 billion.
Actually, yes. (A little commentary here).
There are a number of assumptions about the size of the army after the US leaves that need to be examined.
First of all, my reading of the ambassadors point is that Afghanistan wants to get on the foreign military aid gravy train like so many other countries.
The assumption is this: The number of troops required to bring the factions in Afghanistan to a reasonable political settlement and deny al Qaeda a base of operations is the same as that required to protect the national security of Afghanistan after this is accomplished.
I believe that this assumption is wrong and that a stable political order in Afghanistan would require fewer troops because most of the 150,000 troops required are to be used for internal security.
The question of what to do about opium production is a thorny one aside from this. The problem for the region is that Russia and Iran both have an interest in seeing the opium trade end and will take action on their own if we leave.
Gates’ statement @ Congress indicated training would be assigned to units stationed primarily in the North and West; joint forces operations would be taking place as they reached readiness in the West and South.
(See: UNODC Opium Grow Map).
That says that we are going to be training Northern Alliance troops and are seeking to force Pashtun insurgents to a political settlement.
In the Iraq analogy in which the US military is caught, they are going to train the Kurds, have a central government nominally in the control of the majority and seek to suppress Bani Sadr.
Coincidentally, those >6000 hectare poppy areas in the south are the “Taliban strongholds” that have been McChrystal’s focus since he got there.
Doesn’t now look like a change in strategy, it looks like same old-same old.
“If we had been smarter in the beginning, maybe we would have had time to help build a government with the capability to raise sufficient revenues to compete with a narco-funded army instead of being one itself.”
remember what we talked about a few years ago?
The US government shoudl work out an agreement in which our pharmaceutical companies agree to buy up the poopy crop for legal use in morphine and other pain-relief meds. I spoke to a bunch of the companies that make these drugs (at the time) and they told me that global trade agreements preclude them from this.
I think that’s insane. The whole notion that we will subsidize farmers NOT to grow something is a band-aid at best, because the subsidies won’t continue. But if we buy the damn opium, we set up an economic relationship, one that the Afghan farmers can rely on. Pharma has incredibly deep pockets, and should be able to beat whatever price the black market could offer.
It’s a market solution, and we supposedly love that, right?
Can pharma beat the price paid by illegal channels? Seem doubtful as long as the US and its kind keep subsidizing the price via insane drug laws. The opium trade should not be entering into the terrorism discussion at all as far as I’m concerned. The problems that arise from it are just more chickens coming home to roost.
Whatever happened to that kid who was raised in the States, whose father was a Tribal Lord in Afghanistan and then he returned to Afghanistan to take his place following his father’s footsteps…the picture of him with his rock & roll playing as he raced across the steppes taking care of business…I keep waiting for someone like him to rise from the dust to muster his people, oh well, it was on Nat’l Geographic and for a moment, quite inspirational.
Serious question:
You apparently see some downside to that related to targeting the Taliban and alqaida. Sounds like a good thing to me. Either American involvement is about alqaida as is claimed or it’s about our idiot drug policies. We can’t necessarily have both. If opium pits the government against the Taliban for drug turf, great, as far as I can see. So what is it you think is going to happen under those circumstances?
I happened to listen to Charlie Rose’s interview with John Kerry last night. Somewhat surprisingly he got me feeling a little better about the new plan. His view is that Obama imposed an actual plan and goals for the first time since the invasion started, and that he had in fact narrowed the scope. Kerry, at least, believes that the focus will be on providing local governments with alternatives to buckling under Taliban threats and inducements. Sounds kind of sensible once you accept that we can’t just flip a switch and turn off what Bush started.
Kerry was pretty impressive on other topics too. Too bad Politics American Style makes intellect and knowledge detriments. (Though it was also clear, I thought, that Kerry would not have the ability rally the country to join in major innovative responses to the current crises.)
Thanks very much, Dave. I’m glad I got to see that. Kerry is probably the only person I trust in D.C. when it comes to decisions on war.
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Just send the development cash to Karzai & Co. (cost sinds 2001 $110bn) with an annual GDP of Afghanistan at $4bn (opium trade included – 50% of GDP).
(The New Yorker) July 9, 2007 – Working first with the D.E.A. and then with the State Department, Douglas Wankel helped create the Afghan Eradication Force, with troops of the Afghan National Police drawn from the Ministry of the Interior. Last year, an estimated four hundred thousand acres of opium poppies were planted in Afghanistan, a fifty-nine-per-cent increase over the previous year. Afghanistan now supplies more than ninety-two per cent of the world’s opium, the raw ingredient of heroin. More than half the country’s annual G.D.P., some $3.1 billion, is believed to come from the drug trade, and narcotics officials believe that part of the money is funding the Taliban insurgency.
Wankel was in Uruzgan to oversee a poppy-eradication campaign–the first major effort to disrupt the harvest in the province. He had brought with him a two-hundred-and-fifty-man A.E.F. contingent, including forty-odd contractors supplied by DynCorp, a Virginia-based private military company, which has a number of large U.S. government contracts in Iraq, Afghanistan, and other parts of the world. In Colombia, DynCorp helps implement the multibillion-dollar Plan Colombia, to eradicate coca.
The Taliban instituted a strict Islamist policy against the opium trade during the final years of their regime, and by the time of their overthrow they had virtually eliminated it. But now, Lieutenant General Mohammad Daud-Daud, Afghanistan’s deputy minister of the interior for counter-narcotics, told me, “there has been a coalition between the Taliban and the opium smugglers. This year, they have set up a commission to tax the harvest.” In return, he said, the Taliban had offered opium farmers protection from the government’s eradication efforts. The switch in strategy has an obvious logic: it provides opium money for the Taliban to sustain itself and helps it to win over the farming communities.
Dutch battle Taliban in Tarin Kowt
Sadly, that has meant increased numbers of deaths and wounded among our soldiers and Marines. But over and over again, we have tactically defeated the Taliban, and the local population is well aware of our gains and thankful for them.
We also have seen other successes, including the capture of 102 tons of opium and drug equipment in Helmand – the largest drug seizure since the foreign troops arrived in 2001. When I was in Helmand last month, Brigadier General Larry Nicholson, commander of “Task Force Leatherneck” which conducted the raid, told me that the cache was so large that the only way it could be destroyed was by bombing it from the air.
Helmand and the other provinces of RC/South – the area now so capably led by the Dutch commander Major General Mart de Kruif – gets much of the attention these days. And understandably so. It’s where the violence is most acute. And where we are pursuing the counterinsurgency strategy of “shaping, clearing, holding, and building.”
After we shape, clear, and hold territory, we are increasingly better at building as a key phase in our strategy. The most important concept of this are the 26 Provincial Reconstruction Teams that are deployed throughout Afghanistan. These PRTs embody a joint military and civilian approach to stabilizing Afghanistan and, increasingly, will be used to facilitate development and reconstruction. Activities in the field include rebuilding damaged schools and hospitals, restoring water supplies and infrastructure, and supporting local governance.
CIVILIAN SUPPORT CRUCIAL
Civilian support is crucial, as the Dutch have already demonstrated in Uruzgan Province. There, the number of children in school has quadrupled – from 12,000 to 50,000; 100 health centers have been built; there are now 31 doctors, up from just two; and infant mortality in Uruzgan has dropped to 25 percent. The former commander of the NATO Task Force in Uruzgan, General Tom Middendorp, says that 75-80 percent of the population in Uruzgan now lives in a much more secure environment.
But in a country where much of the land seems still mired in the Middle Ages, changing the infrastructure from the ground up requires money and expertise – and a great deal of both. Despite the high cost, the international community remains committed to Afghanistan’s development, and has altogether pledged $110 billion since 2001 (pdf), with the United States supplying about half that total. The Dutch contribution to security and reconstruction is more than $2 billion just for the period from 2006 to 2011.
In a country where the average daily income hovers at around $1.50 a day, these totals mean the difference between food on a plate and no food at all. Or perhaps access to a doctor for a pregnant woman. Or a chance to learn to read and write for a young girl; to grow wheat or corn rather than poppies. In short, to have a life worth living.
The strategy we now have in place will not crush the insurgency quickly or immediately. As President Obama has said, “The insurgency in Afghanistan didn’t just happen overnight, and we won’t defeat it overnight.”
≈ Cross-posted from my diary — Obama Policy and Af-Pak Border Fallacy ≈
"But I will not let myself be reduced to silence."
This premise we take here is completely absurd. Why would we want to wage a war on drugs in Afghanistan? Sure opium is a bad, bad drug — and heroin is worse. It kills people, but then so do automobiles and firearms. It’s not a security threat and there should be no war on it.
Some countries do just fine living off illegal trades to a substantial extent — think of much of the former Yugoslav countries in Europe right now. Just make the government controls and taxes it, directly or indirectly.
The easiest way out of this conflict is to push the Taliban out of the drug trade and any other trade by taking over the market. In one way or the other.
yeah, but I think it’s just a tad problematic for the U.S. to get tied up in war for control of the Afghan narcotics trade. And that’s really what’s going on to a greater or lesser degree. Part unavoidable, but there are ways that make it a minor issue and ways that depend completely upon it.
Exactly. It’s their business what they want to produce. If we have to be frightened assholes about drugs, it’s our problem, not theirs. In the kind of struggle we’re in now against outfits like alqaida, our best weapon is our money, not our guns or our bodies. It really shouldn’t be that hard to tame the Taliban and turn them against alqaida and the like. According to every credible report I’ve heard, no more than 10 or 20 percent of Taliban members/fighters are in it for the ideology. To the rest it’s either the best employment around or the best ally in some provincial political power struggle. I don’t see where US soldiers fit into the strategy of splitting them off. We may be stuck with Bush’s legacy for the very short run to undo some of the damage, but that’s all. There’s no way military force will ever solve the problem, and imposing our anti-drug mania will only make things much worse.
Well, opium is pretty nice..
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HELMAND, Afghanistan (SF Chronicle/AP) – U.S. Marines swooped down behind Taliban lines in helicopters and MV-22 Osprey VTOL aircraft in the first offensive since President Barack Obama announced an American troop surge.
About 1,000 Marines and 150 Afghan troops were taking part in “Operation Cobra’s Anger” in a bid to disrupt Taliban supply and communications lines in the Now Zad Valley of Helmand province in southern Afghanistan, the scene of heavy fighting last summer, according to Marine spokesman Maj. William Pelletier.
Hundreds of troops from the 3rd Battalion, 4th Marines and the Marine reconnaissance unit Task Force Raider dropped by helicopters and MV-22 Osprey aircraft in the northern end of the valley while a second, larger Marine force pushed northward from the main Marine base in the town of Now Zad.
VIDEO: Marines Launch New Offensive ‘Cobra’s Anger’
"But I will not let myself be reduced to silence."
A national army for Afghanistan – really?
A national army for what is actually an area comprised of several tribes of usually waring illiterate clans – what clever dick thought that one up?
Imagine creating a “National Army” in North Eastern North America in 1697 comprised of Algonquin, Iroquois, Huron and Ottawa warriors under the command of a Cree Indian Chief. Gonna work? Don’t think so!
Clueless – mindless – drivel.
Its a real shame that we can’t spend all that money on helping them rebuild their country rather than occupying it. Building schools and hospitals goes a long way in forging good will. I just hope this is not an endless war with more innocent Afghans deaths.
the afghanistan genocide