In general, and in the context of editorial board members at major U.S. newspapers, I am pretty pleased with the job that Gail Collins does, and has done, at the New York Times. But her take on the Specter/Sestak race is instructive for two reasons. Collins rightly notes that Arlen Specter, a 30-year veteran of the Senate, is an insider’s insider in a year where the people are inclined to throw insiders out. But she does so without any hint of irony. She is also an insider’s insider.
More interesting, though, is her refusal to take a side in this contest. She has nothing nice to say about Arlen (“the ego that ate Philadelphia”) but she has nothing good to say about Joe either (“apparently not one of the more cuddly personalities you would ever want to deal with”). She also calls him “irritating.”
This ambivalence is actually a pretty good reflection of how progressives are approaching this race here in Pennsylvania. There’s very little love on the left for Arlen Specter. But nearly half the activists I know are at least considering voting for him (including some of his most vituperative critics). That might be incomprehensible to people who live outside the state, but it has a lot to do with unease people have with Sestak.
Rather than try to characterize a visceral feeling in others, I will describe my own. I first encountered Sestak at the inaugural Yearly Kos convention in Las Vegas. The first thing that struck me was his soft voice and supremely calm demeanor. It was the exact opposite of what I expected from an admiral. It didn’t compute for me, and it made it hard for me trust him. It reminded me of the Serenity Now episode of Seinfeld. You know? Serenity now, insanity later. In other words, Sestak’s calm seemed like a forced effort to hide a volcanic temper. That was back when Sestak was merely a candidate for office. Once in office, he immediately began abusing his staff by making them work ridiculous hours at about the lowest pay-rate on Capitol Hill. It didn’t take me long to hear about it. He went through five press secretaries and a couple of chiefs of staff in his first year. I felt that my first impression of Sestak had been correct. He campaigns like he’s Mr. Rogers but behind the scenes he’s real son-of-a-bitch hard-ass. I don’t trust people like that, and a lot of people here feel the same way.
That Sestak broke his campaign promises on war-funding and FISA doesn’t really disturb me. After all, Specter famously said that telecoms violated the Constitution moments before voting to immunize them and kill off any investigation or prosecution for warrantless wiretapping of U.S. citizens during the Bush years. In fact, Arlen Specter’s performance as both chairman and ranking member of the Senate Judiciary Committee during Bush’s presidency was so dishonest and appalling that I am voting for Sestak as a result. But the truth is that I don’t give a shit who wins. I’m not sure, but I think my vote may be canceled out in my own household. Like I said, you’d probably be shocked to know how much (tepid, reluctant) support that Specter has here from progressives. And I’ve got very little to work with to argue with them. It comes down to, for me, that I ain’t voting for Specter. Call me a Yellow Dog.
Do you really think Specter will stay bought? How will we know Specter “stays bought” once the primary is over? And I love how people say the Philadelphia machine is working overdrive for Specter. Didn’t Bob Brady run for mayor a few years ago? And he’s the King of the Philadelphia “machine.” And where did he finish? Third or fourth, right? Are there any perfect Democrats? I mean some Dems are claiming Sanders is a sell out for watering down the “Audit the Fed” bill. Sestak is the best we are going to do in Pennsylvania right now.
Specter will probably stay bought but who knows for sure?
On the issues, Sestak is better.
If it hasn’t already been done, someone could also figure out the odds of the combined event that Specter won’t be able to finish the first 4 years of his term and that PA will have a Republican governor.
With anti-incumbency so strong this year, I think this race shows how good it would have been for the Democratic party to have primaried all vulnerable Democrats, even the ones we like. It seems that as long as voters think they have an alternative, they almost don’t care who that alternative is, and it might allow the seat to stay Democrat.
It’s very likely that we’ll have a Republican governor. Very likely.
Please tell me you don’t think it will be Roher! PLEASE!!!!!
Most likely it will be Corbett.
While he may not be as bad as Roher, he is NOT a good choice. I wrote to his office when he decided to sue over the Health Care Reform bill, and he never responded (I also wrote to Rendell’s office, at least they gave me a courtesy of a repy!). I would almost (mind you almost) prefer it was Gerlach……. Though if we can get him out of Congress, maybe he will be gone for good?
Check this out:
Obama has some pull with the black community, as does Mayor Michael Nutter, I guess. Because Sestak is clearly better than Specter on issues of importance to the black community.
the best reason that I can come up with for voting for Sestak is to stick a finger in the eye of the party bigwigs who like to predetermine who will run for office and clear the field for them. I have a similar reaction BooMan does every time I see Sestak speak. Oh, Lester…
At the same time, Im aware that (Sn)Arlen’s vote was needed to pass healthcare. And he’s old, so maybe we could hold off for someone better; Sestak is likely to spend many years disappointing me if elected.
But Specter switched parties just to keep his seat. And he keeps forgetting he’s a Dem now when addressing groups. Chemo brain? Senility?
And now I know how someone can be undecided until the last minute…
Simple solution.
Let Finn decide. For both of you!
I feel exactly this way! UGH!
Sestak switched parties to GET his seat. He was a registered independent for three decades. (And no, I don’t buy his “I didn’t want people to think I was biased” explanation. That’s a PR answer.)
Bryan Lentz, a real progressive, was pushed out of the way by Rahm so Sestak could run instead.
Now ask yourself: When was the last time Rahm recruited a progressive?
I liked Bryan Lentz.
And I’m still undecided about Tuesday…the only thing I know for sure is that I’ll go vote.
I don’t doubt you, but given this:
http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1988950,00.html
How much of a DLC’er is Sestak? Or are you sure Emanuel didn’t recruit him because Sestak is former military. If you know anything else about Rahm, you should know that would send a thrill of his leg(sorry, can’t help it).
More to the point, Rahm is apparently doing everything he can for Specter now, along with the rest of the dull old Dem establishment. I still don’t see how that equates to Sestak being a DLC-type “centrist”. When’s the last time Rahm went up against one of those?
That is what you learn in the military. You learn to keep your head while disaster is happening. This is what calm is – you keep your head while others are losing theirs. Why is this considered odd?
Possibly you watched “Patton” too closely. But successful high-ranking military always find the solution to the disaster, and you don’t do that while running around like a chicken.
Bottom line is that his his public and private personas have little relationship to each other.
He wasn’t just calm – he whispered. Booman’s right, it was really creepy.
Better to roll the dice with someone who’s going to deliver a more consistent set of good votes, even with some intemperate private behavior in the mix, than a more even-keeled type in private who in public shifts with the whims of the political winds and who therefore cannot be trusted on what matters.
Ed Muskie and DiFi (early in her senate career) both had problems either with private explosive tempers (EM) or rough treatment of staff (DF). Both pols I’d vote for today given an opponent with Specter’s checkered track record for credibility on public issues. Muskie a little more enthusiastically of course.
[Discussion of extreme examples like LBJ and Nixon, both borderline certifiable personalities who treated staff badly, omitted here. In a league of their own.]
Advantage Sestak.
I am so disgusted with the choice I’m forced to make that i may abstain from voting for either of these individuals. When the best things you can say about a candidate are “at least he stays bought” and “in any event, it’s guaranteed to be his last term”, you’re REALLY scraping the bottom of the barrel.
Any support i have for Specter is so qualified as to make it meaningless. I can’t stand him. and like Cabin Girl, I worry that he’s getting senile: Mike Stark has video of him making no sense at all.
thanks for the link.
Also, i like the Serenity Now reference. Sestak also comes off a lot like Michael Scott from The Office.
It’s kind of bizarre.
Brendan, I wouldn’t knock the “stays bought” thing. I don’t really care what they think or feel – I care how they VOTE, and act. We have lots of so-called “progressives” who claim to “feel” like liberals but then vote like Blue Dogs for some long, involved list of reasons.
I’m not knocking it. I’m saying it’s one of the few things good things you can say about Specter.
But it’s true that when that’s the best you can say about a candidate, that’s not saying a lot. it’s the equivalent of saying “he’s a son of a bitch, but he’s OUR son of a bitch.”
it would be nice to have a candidate who we could say “stood up to Alito and Roberts; voted for American civil liberties and to hold the phone companies accountable”, etc.
but we don’t (for either candidate), and that’s what makes it such an unpleasant vote. you yourself have said that if you had your druthers it would be neither.
Kudos to everyone who recognizes their responsibility to VOTE EVERY TIME NO MATTER HOW SHITTY THE CHOICES ARE.
Seen from here in the heartland, it looked all along like Sestak was the creature of the ActBlue/netroots axis — that he wouldn’t exist without them. So how is it that he’s now yet another crappy lesser evil? I hope the folks who pushed him into contention are figuring out how all the efforts and money (including a little of mine) ended up giving us another candidate they might not even be able to stomach voting for? Is it possible that there is not another Dem in all of PA who would have actually been worth going all-in for? It’s no wonder we never get no respect the morning after. Maybe Rahm is right.
As to Specter, if he’s little more repugnant than Sestak, there might be an argument that we’re better off with a reformed villain than one who’s still learning the trade — the ol’ prodigal son theorem. But I can’t tell from the diary whether the objection to Sestak is based on his policy positions or his personality. My inclination is to favor our SOB if the only ones harmed by his temper are his staff. We’re looking for an advocate, not a friend.
Sestak broke promises that he made as a candidate in 2006 related to FISA and war-funding for Iraq. But, on the whole, he’s fine on the issues. If elected, he’ll probably overlap with Casey. Casey will be slightly better on national security and international relations and even most domestic legislation, but Sestak will be much better on women’s rights. The concern with Sestak is not really policy-related because he’d be an across-the-board improvement on Specter.
Factors in Specter’s favor are really limited to his seniority, especially on Appropriations, which he can use to really help Pennsylvania, and the likelihood that he won’t serve another term.
Sestak had the courage to run against Specter, even in the face of unified opposition from the WH, the governor, the DSCC, and the mayor of Philly. I give him credit for that.
But that doesn’t mean I trust him or want him to represent me.
So your main problem with Sestak is that he’s mean to his staff? If that’s the worst you can come up with, it seems like being a reliable centrist vote and, even more so, a slap to the DLC’s ugly face, makes him the obvious choice. Do you really think there are any national level pols who are nice guys? I can’t think of a single one I’d want to have as a friend — maybe before or after they’re in politics, but not during.
What are you talking about? Sestak was recruited by Rahm Emanuel – as a DLC Dem.
Not for senator. The party establishment is going all out for Specter, so I don’t know what you’re talking about either.
How does supporting Sestak slap the DLC? Explain, please. Because he was recruited to win in a moderately conservative district.
i can’ speak for DaveW, but i don’t see it as a slap in the face of the DLC. I DO however see it as a slap in the face of the PA Democratic Party, who (whatever we may think of Sestak) was determined to deny Pennsylvania Democrats a primary. they wanted a pre-appointed, no opposition candidate, just like the pulled with Casey.
No matter who wins, the fact that there was a primary is healthy for state politics. and the fact that someone stood up to the state Democratic machine is refreshing. I’m a big fan of giving the voters a choice, and frankly i wish there had been more candidates vying for the seat.
From out here it’s hard to see any difference between the DLC and the state party hierarchy both of whom are responsible for Casey, the poster for DLC triangulating ways. Except for Dean’s brief reign I don’t see much difference between the DLC and the DSCC, etc. In my own mind I was using “DLC” generically the way I might use “tea partier” for the whole spectrum of angry white no-nothings.
was casey a DLC democrat? i don’t remember that part of his bio: whatever his faults, he’s way too pro-labor for the DLC. Booman, can you correct me if i’m wrong on this?
he’s not DLC at all. If you ignore choice and stem-cell research and related Bishop-driven drivel, Casey is in the top ten percentile in the Senate for progressive outcomes.
that’s what i thought. Also, and i may be wrong again, but casey didn’t support the Stupak amendment either. he’s pro-life, but i don’t believe he’s a zealot intent on jamming it down everyone’s throat.
I thought that outside of abortion-related issues folks were pretty pleased with Casey. Did I miss something?
Speaking of primaries being good for the state – don’t forget, Joe didn’t mind the field being cleared for him when he ran for Congress. That’s a tad hypocritical of him to whine about it now.
I didn’t pay attention to Sestak’s run against weldon because i don’t live in that district, and if Sestak’s being a hypocrite on the issue I’m not surprised. But in any event, i’m not speaking for Sestak when i say primaries are good for the state. I’m speaking for me, and frankly i would have appreciated a few other candidates taking a bite at the apple as well.
primaries are healthy for democracy.
I assume his candidacy now is making the DLC types as unhappy as it’s making the DSCC and the Casey-loving jerks that run the Dem Party establishment in PA. Am I wrong?
I agree wholeheartedly with DaveW. I’m not voting for a Teddy bear – I’m voting for a US Senator. If his difficulties with his staff cause problems with his effectiveness, that’s one thing. But I live in Sestak’s district, and aside from the issues BooMan mentions, he has been a solid Democrat. That’s two orders of magnitude better than you can say for Specter.
I was actually sad to see Sestak run for the Senate because I thought it might be hard to hold onto his seat, and because I thought his campaign was quixotic. But obviously he saw an opportunity that many didn’t, and had the guts to give it a shot, for which he deserves major props. I am enthusiastic about Sestak’s campaign, and I think he will be a solid Dem senator if he wins. (Parenthetically, I find BooMan’s distaste for Sestak a bit weird and overblown. He is more than entitled to his judgment, but we all have to recognize that our judgments are sometimes based on emotions that may or may be truly relevant.)
I hope I was clear about two things.
BTW, as I wrote elsewhere, I had similar spidey-sense for Eric Massa, but for different reasons. Massa fit the mold of a Navy officer to a tee.
Joe Sestak is a friend of mine – I used to work for him in the Pentagon, which was a career ago for both of us. Joe’s a great guy – one of the smartest and most inspiring people I know. He works very, very hard, and although his staff works hard, he would never expect anyone on his staff to work harder than he does. He cares deeply about Pennsylvania and America as a whole, and he works hard to both pass laws to benefit all of us and to make sure that the people of PA’s 7th district get the constituent service they both need and deserve.
Joe Sestak is deserving of your enthusiastic vote and he will make us proud as the next Senator from PA.
I used to work in DC for a couple of Admirals (a two star and his four star boss). They expect a lot. They all want your best and total dedication. And come to think of it, they all are soft-spoken. They expect you to listen to them. Some are good. Some are bad. The good ones work themselves harder than anyone else. The Old Boy Network counts for a lot, and a Ring is required, but none of them get their positions without clawing for them.