Okay, Dave Weigel, you want to double down on defending Rand Paul, that’s your business. But let’s be honest. You are telling us that Rand Paul is coming at the matter of Civil Rights from a sincere place and that “he despises racism and believes almost all Americans agree with him.” In debate, this is called begging the question. In refusing to endorse the federal desegregation of lunch counters, Rand Paul makes people wonder if he is a racist. We know that he explicitly denies that he’s a racist, but we don’t know if he is telling the truth. That is why we must look at other elements of Paulism to help us decide. That is why Joe Conason referred us back to Ron Paul’s racist newsletters from the 1990’s. It was a nice catch, considering that he was able to cite Dave Weigel as the author of a 2008 piece on those newsletters in which he and co-author Julian Sanchez concluded:
Ron Paul may not be a racist, but he became complicit in a strategy of pandering to racists—and taking “moral responsibility” for that now means more than just uttering the phrase. It means openly grappling with his own past—acknowledging who said what, and why. Otherwise he risks damaging not only his own reputation, but that of the philosophy to which he has committed his life.
Considering what Weigel and Sanchez documented in that piece, it’s very hard to understand why they were still willing to give Ron Paul some benefit of the doubt. Sure, he may not be a racist even though he published newsletters “replete with claims that Martin Luther King “seduced underage girls and boys,” [and] that black protesters should gather “at a food stamp bureau or a crack house” rather than the Statue of Liberty…”
It’s true that even if Ron Paul is a racist the same is not necessarily true of the son. But if Rand is different from his father…if he doesn’t run with the same crowd, then why did he hire a spokesman like this?
In December, Chris Hightower, the spokesman for Paul’s senate campaign, was forced to resign after a liberal Kentucky blog discovered that his MySpace page had a comment posted around Martin Luther King Day that read: “HAPPY N***ER DAY!!!” above what appears to be a historical photo of the lynching of a black man.
The photo and comment appeared to have been posted to Hightower’s MySpace page by a friend, not by Hightower himself. The comment has since been removed but at the time it was discovered by the local blog it had been up for nearly two years.
If you think it’s fairly innocent to fail to erase egregiously racist comments on your MySpace page, there’s this post that Hightower made himself:
So, I was in Rivergate Mall today in line to get some pizza and I noticed a group of Afro-Americans were looking at me with hate and whispering stuff. I was wondering WTF and procceeded to sit facing them and give them the “what the fuck are you looking at look”. Anyway after a few snarls they quit looking at me. I was like do these fuckers think I am someone else or what? Anyway I finished my food and went to find some new shoes. About 10 minutes later, another group of Afro-Americans are giving me the same looks, it then dawns on me, there has to be something on this hoodie that is pissing off the Afro-Americans. And sure enough when I get outside the mall I look and bingo. KKK …. LOL!”
Who says ‘Afro-Americans’? Who wears a hoodie with ‘KKK’ printed on it? That story doesn’t even make sense.
Rand Paul’s father is a racist and Rand hired a racist to be his spokesperson. I think that raises enough doubt that we can’t allow Weigel to stipulate that Rand “despises racism and believes almost all Americans agree with him.”
Dave Neiwart has done an excellent job of detailing the racist ties of the Paulists over the years, and it really shouldn’t be a secret or something we have to debate. The only question is whether Rand is different. Does he have more enlightened views on race, as many younger people do? I grant that it’s possible, but his position on the Civil Rights Act and his comment about Tiger Woods don’t give me much comfort.
Weigel does his best to explain Rand’s views on desegregation:
[Rand] does not believe that the Constitution allows the government to force businesses, landlords, etc. to change how they do business and who they do business with. And he fears that doing so in the name of positive social change puts us on a slippery slope to extra-Constitutional measures in the service of negative social change — taking away guns, putting people in camps. You can disagree, but that’s where he’s coming from.
This, of course, is the exact argument ‘respectable’ people made in opposition of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Weigel acknowledges this but has a mitigating explanation.
It’s essential to put Paul’s belief in the context of 2010 instead of the context of 1964. He sees less of a need now for the government to intervene against discrimination in private business because there is less discrimination now. And go and try to prove him wrong on that.
But this is a dishonest gambit. Rand Paul wasn’t asked if he would oppose the Civil Rights Act of 1964 if it were to be debated today, but whether or not he would have voted for it back then. And he said ‘no,’ using the same justification as the racists of the time.
So far, I’ve focused on the question of Rand Paul’s alleged racism and Weigel’s defense, but Rand’s ideology is flawed even if we accept his explanation at face value. The entire reason that the federal government got involved in telling private businesses not to discriminate and segregate is because the market failed to force them to do it. If forcibly segregating lunch counters was bad for business, according to the Paulist philosophy, the owners would have banded together to force the politicians to allow them to integrate their lunch counters. It didn’t happen and it wasn’t going to happen in the foreseeable future. That’s why the federal government had to step in.
Dave Weigel needs to give up his defense of Rand Paul. He’s embarrassing the Washington Post.
I always liked the Star Wars line, “Who’s more the fool, the fool himself or those who follow him?”
Weigel falls into the trap of thinking that his great intellect will somehow stumble upon an act of discretion in Paul’s thinking that will ease the pain of Paul’s dishonest ideology. Not gonna happen.
Instead, it’s more instructive to tug on this house of cards to understand that like most first glances at an ideology they are imminently appealing, but when anyone applies real life to the instant gratification lines there’s simply no roadmap.
Strangely, for all the blowhard Republicans in Congress that I disdain hourly, I almost feel sorry for you, almost. For even the dumbest of you, the most ill begotten, GET, that Paul not only isn’t ready for prime time, but he’s gonna drag you even farther off course than you already are.
None of what the Pauls spout comes as a shock to me, because unfortunately I became more familiar with their roots during my academic career than any human should have to.
To its credit, my memory is that Reason Magazine pretty much nailed this group down last go-round with the Ron Paul letters.
The Pauls are products of an extremist propaganda outfit called the Mises Institute (named for Ludwig von Mises, who taught Murray Rothbard). It’s a thinktank in Auburn — it used to be formally part of the university, if I remember correctly — promoting a toxic mix of Austrian School faux-economics and neo-Confederate revisionist history.
Due to its proximity to the university I attended, I suffered these sociopaths a great deal at Florida State, where they maintain a small clique within the economics department, mostly teaching introductory-level coursework. The higher-ups — overwhelmingly Keynesians and Real Business Cycle theorists — of course know they’re insane, but one or two of the old relics on the payroll were able to sustain their little movement inside the department.
Virginia Tech and other schools in the Southeast have also played host to them, which will come as a shock to no one, I’m sure, based on the racial views of the Paul boys.
They are proto-fascists to an almost-indescribable degree. They whole-heartedly reject scientific research, instead peddling the likes of The Bell Curve and a rejection of the field of statistics (due to the fact that statistics has, time and time again, shown Austrian economics to be utter horseshit).
Just as Ludwig von Mises would’ve wanted it, because contrary to the whitewashing of his career that took place when he became the God of the movement, von Mises was himself the father of this rejection of academia and acceptance of fascism.
I’m not surprised so many on the left cheered Ron Paul. Few are going to go digging through a politician’s past. But I’m glad many are now being exposed to the movement that built Ron and Rand Pauls’ careers, because it’s the true home of the Old South politics.
Rand gets sympathy from those who want freedom to carry, particularly if there’s much rural population. They wouldn’t dig Mises as much, m’thinks.
Particuarly if Rand Paul starts talking about NOT taking more Federal tax dollars for Kentucky than that state pays in. I mean, as a Libertarian, he couldn’t really allow his State to subsist on wellfare, right?
Rand and Ron have been host to VA Tech? We’re by no means a liberal school, at least comparatively to other colleges (prolly 60% conservative 40% liberal). We definitely have more Dems, though. The College Republicans are a chicken weakling group compared to the Young Democrats.
There is a columnist in our paper who’s a fan of them. I’ve been tempted to write in response a few times, but it’s usually never worth it. My columns get destroyed in the comments sections, usually generating 1-2 weeks worth of comments. I’m like the school’s Alan Grayson, HA!
No, I mean the economics department has had ties to the Mises Institute and the extremist side of the libertarian movement that the Paul come from.
Ah. I didn’t realize. Lol @ Austrian even being called “economics.”
Jon Stossel, the former ABC loonie, got into the act by supporting Paul:
I think there are better attacks on Rand Paul than the accusation that he pals around with racists.
I would have liked to have seen Rachel Maddow grill Rand Paul on the substance of his arguments: It makes a lot of sense that a small business owner shouldn’t have to put in a $100,000 elevator. If I proved to you that it doesn’t have that provision, would you support the entire bill? Do you think that public figures like yourself have the responsibility to represent the laws of our government accurately? Are you aware that the requirement for restaurants to provide ramps is based on the Commerce Clause, which has nothing at all to do with their owners’ right to bar guns? Do you accept the reality that as we speak, the government can pass anti-discrimination laws at the same time that it allows private owner to bar guns from their establishments?
The problem with Rand Paul isn’t that he’s a racist. The problem is that he’s a Republican. We would get more hay out of associating him with the party in general, which rails against laws based on common sense outrage that have no bearing on reality.
As for the racism, I’d rather see personal greed and avoiding personal responsibility as the real reasons behind the Republican platform. It’s more important to destroy the populist image of the Republican Party than it is to try to make them acknowledge their own racism.
Interesting tact to the Republicans, “You are all Rand Paul now”
. . . the person who REALLY needs to go on this line of attack against Rand Paul is Jack Conway!
And, you are definitely correct regarding the GOP’s relationship to populism– distance them from that, and they’ve got no ground to stand on.
Thanks for being a dog with a bone in this situation. Keep on breaking it down.
I don’t have to twist myself in knots trying to figure out what or who Rand Paul is-he’s a racist no matter how hard he tries to come up with justifications for his various reasons that business can be segregated. He’s not only a racist he isn’t even a true libertarian given his stance against gay marriage or his pro-life agenda….or against disabled people.
He’s a buffoon who stepped outside his enclosed and privileged country club atmosphere and found out that not everyone believes all the crazy shit his little group does.
Is it just me and my prejudices, or does Rand come off as really strange when he’s talking on the TV? It’s kind of like watching an out-of-sync video or something — like when you’re babbling on and finally notice that the person you’re talking to is a million miles away, in the midst of some daydream while answering occasional cues with rote nods and uh huhs. Except with Rand it’s going on while HE’s the one doing the talking. Boo probably sees the same behavior when TinyBoo hears a loud sound and goes into random and uncoordinated scan mode to locate the source.
There are a lot of pols and pundits who I really believe are very close to insane, but if I’d never heard of Palin or Bachmann or Beck and paid no attention to what they were saying, I don’t think I’d notice anything weird — that would come when I heard the content. Rand, OTOH, would make the same impression even if he was just talking about the weather.
Honest, this isn’t a snark attempt — just wondering if my own expectations are shifting my perceptions.
He isn’t a true Libertarian for sure. Somewhere I read that he supports all of the existing drug laws, including those for marijuana. No legitimate Libertarian could support the infringement on one’s inherent personal freedom to grow, possess or consume any naturally occurring plant that they damn well choose.
His arguments always come around to his distorted view of “freedom” or “liberty” when all he can seem to apply these words to is corporations or business owners, as he has no problem with the government limiting the rights of average citizens. I guess in Rand Paul’s version of Libertarianism, individual people aren’t deserving of the same liberties as the County-Club class he belongs to.
Does the fact that he also doesn’t believe in a minimum wage mean that he supports an individual’s “right” to sell themselves into slavery? How about indentured servitude for the lower classes? If I sign a confusing contract with my employer that says I am not allowed to quit my job no matter what, does the government have a right to tell my employer that’s not legal?
How about debtors prison if I can’t pay my bills?
Whether he is a racist or not shouldn’t be the whole scope of this examination. Everyone gets tired of these guys wiggling on the issue and ultimately stop asking, taking their word for it that they aren’t. His ideas that he clings to of business liberty vs. individual liberty and the role of government are abhorrent. He should be questioned to death on all of these things.
According to TPM, he’s opposed to the drugwar:
I think that accounts for a lot of his passionate support. Another issue the go-along-to-get-along liberals lost control of. Rand is one of the chickens coming home to roost.
Thanks for that. I wonder ehre I read or saw that erroneous bit…
Actually, I just found the original source material where this was brought up – an interview with Time Magazine from March where he denies he’s got purely libertarian views.
I’m glad I’m not the only one with such a hatred of the Paulistas. I feel like Yglesias when it comes to George Will, only amplified.
I HATE anything Ron Paul. I don’t give a fuck if he’s anti-war and anti-drug war.
Did you see this?
http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/joe_conason/2010/05/21/racial/index.html
Eh, let Weigel go on. His defenses of Paul are incredibly unpersuasive, and libertarians’ worst crime is that they’re all so frightfully boring. I don’t think there’s any harm in exposing them to the real world.