One of the costs of failing to try to understand why we were attacked on 9/11 is that we still have no idea why we were attacked on 9/11. The right is now peddling a YouTube of Imam Rauf of the Cordoba House in which he makes the inflammatory charge that the United States has more Muslim blood on its hands than al-Qaeda does the blood of innocent non-Muslims. Jim Geraghty of the National Review casts this assertion in the following light:
… to suggest that the indirect effects of a U.S. sanctions regime is remotely morally comparable to al-Qaeda’s deliberate mass murder — much less to suggest that they are morally worse — is to eviscerate one’s claim to be moderate, pro-American, or sensible. He says it is a “difficult subject to discuss with Western audiences.” Does he ever wonder why?
I listened to the clip of Imam Rauf making this statement and I did not sense that he intended to make a moral comparison or to suggest that the sanctions regime on Iraq was worse than al-Qaeda’s various bombings. He appeared to be trying to explain the motivation of al-Qaeda and the difficulty of getting Americans to understand why there is a lot of anger at America in the Islamic world. Mentioning the sanctions on Iraq was actually on point, because Usama bin-laden made the following points in his 1998 fatwa that was used to justify the African embassy bombings.
No one argues today about three facts that are known to everyone; we will list them, in order to remind everyone:
First, for over seven years the United States has been occupying the lands of Islam in the holiest of places, the Arabian Peninsula, plundering its riches, dictating to its rulers, humiliating its people, terrorizing its neighbors, and turning its bases in the Peninsula into a spearhead through which to fight the neighboring Muslim peoples.
If some people have in the past argued about the fact of the occupation, all the people of the Peninsula have now acknowledged it. The best proof of this is the Americans’ continuing aggression against the Iraqi people using the Peninsula as a staging post, even though all its rulers are against their territories being used to that end, but they are helpless.
Second, despite the great devastation inflicted on the Iraqi people by the crusader-Zionist alliance, and despite the huge number of those killed, which has exceeded 1 million… despite all this, the Americans are once against trying to repeat the horrific massacres, as though they are not content with the protracted blockade imposed after the ferocious war or the fragmentation and devastation.
So here they come to annihilate what is left of this people and to humiliate their Muslim neighbors. Third, if the Americans’ aims behind these wars are religious and economic, the aim is also to serve the Jews’ petty state and divert attention from its occupation of Jerusalem and murder of Muslims there. The best proof of this is their eagerness to destroy Iraq, the strongest neighboring Arab state, and their endeavor to fragment all the states of the region such as Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and Sudan into paper statelets and through their disunion and weakness to guarantee Israel’s survival and the continuation of the brutal crusade occupation of the Peninsula.
All these crimes and sins committed by the Americans are a clear declaration of war on God, his messenger, and Muslims.
So, basically, it was our blockade of Iraq which was the main cause, both directly and indirectly, of the al-Qaeda attacks against us. Bin-Laden pointed to Iraq in all three of his justifications for his ruling that “to kill the Americans and their allies — civilians and military — is an individual duty for every Muslim who can do it in any country in which it is possible to do it.” Our forces in Saudi Arabia irritated al-Qaeda, but they were only stationed there to enforce the embargo and no-flight zone in the south of Iraq. The million dead Iraqis number that bin-Laden mentioned was an exaggerated reference to the UN report on the effect of the sanctions on the health of Iraqis. And he predicted that the United States was preparing to invade and destroy the Iraqi army. In his view, this would be done to serve Israel’s interests, but whether that is true or not, the US did invade and destroy the Iraqi army.
We can’t look back at this history in a vacuum. It’s highly doubtful that bin-Laden was correct when he asserted that the U.S. was preparing to invade Iraq in 1998. However, Congress did pass the Iraq Liberation Act in 1998 making it the official policy of our government to work towards regime change in Iraq. Also, in December of 1998, the U.S. bombed Iraq for four continuous days during Operation Desert Fox. We know now that Iraq had no weapons of mass destruction in 1998, but the Clinton administration justified the bombing as an effort to degrade Hussein’s WMD capability. Here’s Secretary of State Madeline Albright:
“I don’t think we’re pretending that we can get everything, so this is – I think – we are being very honest about what our ability is. We are lessening, degrading his ability to use this. The weapons of mass destruction are the threat of the future. I think the president explained very clearly to the American people that this is the threat of the 21st century. [. . .] [W]hat it means is that we know we can’t get everything, but degrading is the right word.”
Now, one can justify these acts taken by the U.S. government. But it should be understood that, collectively, they gave rise to a lot of resentment which fueled al-Qaeda’s rhetoric and appeal. Even moderate Muslims who do not support killing innocent civilians are aware of the tremendous human cost inflicted on Iraq both prior to and during the invasion and occupation of Iraq. And this presents a problem for a person like Imam Rauf who seeks to foster dialogue between the Islamic world and the West. It’s not a one-way conversation where Muslims are made to understand the West’s good intentions. It’s also a conversation where the West is made to understand what actions on their part have led to resentment and backlash. Imam Rauf prefaced his statement by saying that it is a very difficult conversation to have with the West because we don’t acknowledge any of the facts that serve as the starting point from a Muslim perspective.
It’s objectively true that, at least indirectly, the UN sanctions on Iraq led to more death than all of al-Qaeda’s attacks combined. The primary fault for that lays with Saddam Hussein’s epic misuse of Iraq’s resources, but denying medicines, and medical and sanitation equipment to Iraq was also a major contributing factor. And even if we place the majority of blame on Hussein for the loss of life under the sanctions, we have to deal with the actual invasion and occupation of Iraq which resulted in the deaths of somewhere between 100,000 and 1,000,000 Iraqis. A lot of innocent Muslims have been killed in Afghanistan, too.
It shouldn’t be considered un-American to point out these facts. We must face these facts if we want to have a dialogue with the Islamic world. And we need to have a better explanation for our actions than Madeline Albright’s insistence that “it was worth it.”
Yet, as the right’s reaction makes clear, Imam Rauf was correct to point out that it is difficult to have this conversation because a lot of Americans don’t want to listen. President Bush deflected all introspection after 9/11. The official position of the U.S. government and its lapdog press was that there was no possible justification for the attacks and, therefore, any discussion of motivation was somehow a rationalization. They told us that we were hated for our freedoms, and that was supposed to suffice for our understanding of public opinion in the Islamic world. In truth, our freedoms were the main thing that most Muslims respected and admired about our country. What they disliked was our foreign policy. And some of them, a small minority, were sufficiently angered by our foreign policy that they chose to take matters into their own hands and fight back. Failing to understand their motivations doesn’t make it less likely that we’ll face terrorist acts in the future. Understanding their anger doesn’t mean that we have to appease them or change all our policies, but it allows us to make a rational cost-benefit analysis going forward.
Nothing quite like being likened to anti-Semitic communists.
Same old crap.
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for the past two days, i’ve been smacking down a guy on FB who is peddling the most outrageously uninformed bullshit about the community center in the burlington coat factory.
it doesn’t matter what you say or whether you back up your facts with citations. These idiots believe what they want to believe. and you know what? they won’t learn anything until someone innocent is dead and one of their own goes to jail. that’s the way this movie ends, i have seen it a million times.
personally I’m hoping that, if it has to happen, it’s Pam Gellar that pulls the trigger. I’d love to see her stand trial and get sent to the pen for the rest of her miserable life.
Wow. Our boy Richard Cohen actually wrote a flawless column.
It is an excellent column and I sent Cohen an email to that effect. The quote from Yeats’ “The Second Coming” was spot on.
I thought I would take a swing through the comments. I wish I hadn’t. It was a journey through some of the most vile and hateful comments I’ve ever read on “The Washington Post.”
I recently encountered some pretty virulent anti-Islamic sentiment from someone who claims to be a religious pluralist. I’ve now come to understand that for this person religious pluralism doesn’t include all religions. It was pretty shocking, and it seems fairly obvious that the brouhaha over Cordoba House has taken the lid off some long-simmering barely-contained Islamophobia that I fear will erupt into some very serious violence. I’m hoping I’m wrong, but my recent trip through the history of genocide, massacres, riots and violence against “the other” on this continent hasn’t contributed to any sense of confidence in our ability to come through this unscathed.
I’ve had the same dealings, although not specifically with this issue, but with the ACLU.
I brought up how this is actually widespread; the specific example was a Muslim woman who was denied a foster care license over her religion and how the ACLU picked up her case.
Then I had a barrage of people making lies about the ACLU (against religion, Christmas, etc). Ironically, one of the examples this person used was one random ACLU card-carrying member he met; the irony of him using one person to lambaste an entire organization in a thread over this mosque was just delicious.
That fatwa lists three reasons:
US troops in Saudi Arabia (“occupying the lands of Islam in the holiest of places”)
The boycott of Iraq (“devastation inflicted on the Iraqi people by the crusader-Zionist alliance”)
The occupation of Palestine (“the aim is also to serve the Jews’ petty state and divert attention from its occupation of Jerusalem and murder of Muslims there”)
In 1998, bin Laden framed the issue as the “crusader-Zionist alliance”. Since PNAC was formed, its policy seems to be to exacerbate every one of the points.
However, Bush removed US troops from Saudi Arabia not long after 9/11. The destruction of Iraq is even more because the second point makes the alliance of Saddam Hussein and al Quaeda a half truth. And PNAC folks are pushing more and more for US support of a one-state solution in Israel.
It is much easier to have a clash of civilizations aimed at destroying Islam than to acknowledge our foreign policy blunders. And Obama is accused by Jon Voight of weakening America because he won’t go along with the crusade.
Right, but he uses Iraq in all 3 points.
For UBL, the troops are in SA as a staging post to invade Iraq, And this will be done to protect Israel from Iraq’s military. It seemed far more delusional when Clinton was president than it does now after 8 years of neo-con foreign policy.
So Saddam Hussein might not have been in alliance with al Quaeda, but bin Laden saw al Quaeda as being in an alliance with Saddam Hussein. Now we know why Cheney can get away with telling his lie with impunity.
Yep, when Clinton was president the troops in Saudi Arabia were those who were left there to deter Saddam Hussein from attacking Saudi Arabia for sponsoring the liberation of Kuwait.
“Our forces in Saudi Arabia irritated al-Qaeda, but they were only stationed there to enforce the embargo and no-flight zone in the south of Iraq.”
Actually, our forces in Saudi Arabia, especially the airbases, were stationed there to prop up the al-Sa’ud family’s rule, and to keep errant Saudi flyboys in line. The latter had had a nasty habit of making runs on various al-Sa’ud palaces.
And we did not voluntarily withdraw our forces from Saudi Arabia. They were thrown out by the Saudis, who decided that their presence led to more instability than any stability they may have provided.
If there had been a Democrat in the White House, this move would have led all of the Henry Kissinger wannabes to scream about a massive strategic defeat for the US. As it happened, it was hardly noticed at the time.
I don’t know if you’re right about the Saudis kicking us out, but the move to Qatar was a long time in the making. Qatar built a state of the art facility specifically to attract the USAF, and it worked.
“We live in a country where the only allowed public discourse holds as an axiom that America is without sin, literally fresh as a daisy from god’s vagina and tasked with redeeming the fallen world. This is taken as the starting point for all presidential rhetoric.”
everyone knows that GOD is a MAN and has no filthy womanly vagina, just an omnipotent Manly Godly Penis.
that’s why we call Him “Him” and not “Her”. DUUUUUH.
/crazy fundamentalist christian
Point taken!
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Why does Netanyahu let Likud goals coincide with anti-
terrorIslamic fascist policy?"But I will not let myself be reduced to silence."
“he makes the inflammatory charge that the United States has more Muslim blood on its hands than al-Qaeda does the blood of innocent non-Muslims.“
I am not clear how this is classified as “inflammatory” given that it is demonstrably true. In fact, it would not be at all out of line with reality to suggest that the United States has orders of magnitude more Muslim blood on its hands than Al-Qa`eda does the blood of innocent non-Muslims, even if we confined the calculation to the blood that has been shed directly by the United States and did not count the oceans of blood that have been shed as a clear result of United States actions if not by the United States itself.