I am getting very tired of waking up to unimaginably bad news. In Wisconsin, Colorado, and Pennsylvania, complete nut-jobs are showing strong leads in the polls for U.S. Senate. To make matters worse, I read this from Nate Silver:
Senate candidates who have a lead of 6 to 9 points in the simple polling average, with 30 days to go until the election — about where Mr. Toomey’s lead stands now — are undefeated since 1998. This isn’t quite as impressive as it sounds, since there are only seven such candidates in the database. But if we expand the scope of our study just a bit, it proves to be the norm rather than the exception. Senate candidates with a slightly larger lead in the polling average — 9 to 12 points — are also undefeated.
So, in the last 12 years, no Senate candidate has ever come back to win when trailing by 6 or more points in the polls a month out from the election. I’m an optimistic guy, but facts like that kind of ruin my mood. Somehow, I still feel like this year is different. Nate says:
Now some may still argue that the Pennsylvania race is particularly unusual: that even though a lead of 6 or 7 points in the polls is ordinarily quite solid, there are special circumstances in this race. Or some might argue that the polls in all races are much less reliable than they have been in the recent past.
The first argument was addressed to some extent in yesterday’s article: it’s tempting to think of each Senate race as its own little unique snowflake. But the polling has provided a reliable guide in the vast majority of races. It is not enough for a race to be unique: it has to be unique in a way that renders the polling much less accurate than it ordinarily would be. If you think you’ve encountered such a case, you should be prepared to make a strenuous argument for it.
I can’t make what I would consider a “strenuous argument.” But I do feel like this year is highly unusual. In recent cycles, the Democratic base has been highly engaged and engaged at a much earlier point in the cycle. Since these polls numbers are still based almost exclusively on an enthusiasm gap, the numbers should naturally narrow as election day approaches.
In each state, Republicans are benefitting from an enthusiasm gap, where their supporters are much more eager to turn out and vote on Nov. 2. In Colorado, for example, the Democrat leads 41 percent to 40 percent among registered voters. However, the contest flips among those most likely to vote, who give the Republican an 8-point lead.
I don’t think the Republicans were leading in any polls of the overall electorate in the leadup to the 2006 or 2008 elections. But the Democrats are seeing that pattern repeated all across the country. They are tied or ahead among registered voters but trailing badly among likely ones. That seems like one of the easier types of problems to solve. In a state like Ohio, which is already voting, we have a full month to get our voters to the polls. On the other hand, votes are being cast now, before any natural closing of the enthusiasm gap has occurred.
Another distinction of this cycle is that the Republican Party has nominated unorthodox candidates in race after race. Almost none of these candidates do well under increased scrutiny, which adds further grounds for hoping that the gap will narrow as more attention is paid to these races.
But, it’s getting late in the cycle. Russ Feingold should not be losing badly to a complete nut-job. Gallup shows that the Democrats gained during September in every region of the country and among every age group except the elderly (where they held their own), but Nate Silver continues to downgrade the Democrats’ chances nonetheless.
If you don’t want to see Ken Buck and Pat Toomey (or their like) in the U.S. Senate, you should consider contacting your local OFA director and finding out how you can help our candidates. This is getting perilous.
You can call across state lines, too, in case anyone was wondering. I’ve been calling Wisconsin for Feingold because he’s the most important seat to hold, imo.
Yes, good point.
I’m sometimes confused by the seeming correlation between “likely voters’ and the enthusiasm gap. I myself am more than a likely voter – I’m a sure thing. But I wouldn’t consider myself enthusiastic when it comes to the candidates I have to choose from.
I guess what I’m saying is that I don’t understand how they’re measuring enthusiasm. Is it merely a question they’re asking during polling? Or is there some other method they’re using to determine it?
They ask people how likely they are to vote. Then they create subcategories for definitely, highly likely, unlikely, definitely not.
I get the “likely” part. Are you suggesting that’s the same measure as “enthusiasm?”
Just after I wrote that comment, Steve addressed the same issue at DK.
Boo:
I’m pretty sure you’ve seen this:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2010/10/2/906429/-Gallups-doomsday-scenario-contradicts-recent-his
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I am not arguing for complacency, only that there are limitations in polling.
The question I have is: How are the local media covering these candidates? What’s the TradMed is Wisconsin saying about Feingold’s opponent? Nevada about Sharron Angle? Isn’t there also a problem with the way polls think the make-up of the electorate is going to be? Is Sestak going to have the “walking around” money to promote better turn-out in Philly?
If the local media in NYC area are any indication, they are covering the loons quite critically.
And that coverage is actually driving fellow loons towards the candidates.
As I said in my recent post November Crisis. Bet On It.
Same same here.
The media cast Paladino as a nutjob, and his numbers grow!
Hmmmmm…
Anti-media sentiment plus anti-government sentiment plus a whole lotta nutjob voters equals a November Crisis Surprise.
Watch.
I been tellin’ ya!!!
AG
So which shall we reinforce: the party that wants to destroy the nation or the party that either doesn’t understand that the former wants to destroy the nation or also wants to destroy the nation, just a little more slowly?
If the Democrats don’t do too badly, they will take it as proof that they are doing all they need to do. They aren’t. If they do very badly, they will take it as proof that they should be more like the Republicans. They shouldn’t.
I agree that when Obama, Biden and Gibbs denounce the left, it’s a strategy, not an accident. If the Democrats are running against their base because they think it will turn leaners and the apathetic toward them in a midterm election, they are fools. If they are running against their base because they disagree with them, f&ck ’em.
But I get the distinct impression that they are running against them because they hope to lose and gum up the legislative process for the next two years and then win reelection for the President in 2012. It’s the same impression I got in 1994. One would think that the experience of Bill Clinton would show them that this is a really, really stupid strategy. But then, my options seem to be that Democratic leadership is either stupid or evil, but not AS evil as their opponents.
This is a national emergency. And it will be one until the nation either collapses into some sort of weird theocratic caesarism or someone figures out that it is an emergency and acts with a sense of urgency. It’s horrifying that the Republicans are heading toward the former. But it is equally horrifying that the Democrats either don’t see it and act upon it, or just don’t care.
I agree that when Obama, Biden and Gibbs denounce the left, it’s a strategy, not an accident. If the Democrats are running against their base because they think it will turn leaners and the apathetic toward them in a midterm election, they are fools.
I always hear this and wonder why establishment Democrats think this way. When was the last time the Pukes pandered to the middle? Not in the last 30 years(that I know of). You don’t win elections by trying to pander to the middle, you win by turning out base voters. Look at the Pukes. They are always pushing the envelope by nominating more extreme candidates every time. The ones now are even more extreme than Newt and Co. back in 1994. They don’t nominate less extreme ones.
You don’t win midterms this way, but Obama certainly won the presidentials this way, contrasting sanity with Palinism and eight years of the Republicans sprinting toward lunacy. But you can’t get caught up in your own moderate rhetoric and sweet promises of being civil with pyromaniacs when your house is on fire.
And that’s just the thing. People like Digby weren’t fooled. If the civility was a way to win the election .. fine. But as a strategy for governing? She saw that was a fools errand. But see, also, I don’t think Obama has applied the pressure he could to one person. Scott Brown. Why? Given that Massachusetts is a blue state, and the likelihood of a strong challenger in ’12, I think Obama should be able to strong arm Brown more.
I think that’s a silly argument, actually. While you might think he could, I think it’s the opposite. Brown knows he’s going to lose when Obama is on the ticket in Massachusetts, so he’ll likely be more concerned about a future job than trying to pretend to be a liberal Republican in order to keep his tenure. So if I were Scott Brown, I’d do w/e the hell I wanted.
Afraid I mostly agree, Seabe. Scott is already lining up his next modeling job, or truck ad, or whatever comes next. It is Democratic leadership’s inability to strongarm Democrats that bothers me.
Of course if Dems and Dem leaning indies came out in force and beat the socks off the Rep this round the opportunity for really seeing the correction we all want could become a reality.
I’m sick of waking up to silly historical glosses from beancounters. All honor to Mr. Silver, but history does not shape the present in the simple and straightforward way he promotes. This IS a different election. Which, for all we know could make the outcome even worse for our side. But it also gives us multiple points of leverage to reshape the narrative. The trend shows that there is still time to get our story across.
I suspect that Feingold’s situation derives from liberals threatening to stay home because he strayed from the party line on some issues. I don’t think they will all stay home on election day. They are persuadable. What really makes this election unique in my memory is that getting people out to vote has never been the critical parameter like it is now — even more than 2 years ago, I think.