There are twelve senators and, more importantly, thirty-six House Republicans who have pledged not to vote to raise the debt ceiling unless a Balanced Budget Amendment has been passed through Congress. There are probably another thirty House Republicans who feel similarly but who haven’t signed the pledge. Passing an amendment to the Constitution through Congress requires two-thirds of both Houses, which is simply not going to happen, so these members have effectively decided that they will not vote to raise the debt ceiling. It’s true that some of them might be persuaded to break their pledge, but only for something much more generous than the Democrats are willing to offer.
A vote to raise the debt ceiling only requires a simple majority, which is 218 votes in the House. The Republicans have 240 seats and the Democrats currently have 193, I believe. So, let’s do some simple math. We’ll stick with the 36 number even though we know it’s higher. Two hundred and forty minus thirty-six is two hundred and four. That means Speaker Boehner, at a minimum, would have to get 14 Democrats to vote for any bill to raise the debt ceiling. For each additional Republican who won’t vote to raise the debt ceiling, you can add
a Democrat. I’ve seen numbers ranging from 60 to 120 (the latter being a full half of the Republican caucus).
I’m inclined to believe a lower number, but even at 60, that forces Boehner to craft some agreement that can win the support of at least thirty-eight Democrats. That’s a substantially bigger number than the entire Blue Dog Caucus. And any bill that could attract several dozen Democrats would not have the kind of cuts to entitlements that might make some Republicans willing to break their pledge. Moreover, it would alienate fence-sitters who would be practically guaranteeing a major Tea Party primary challenge.
Wall Street and the Chamber of Commerce have both made it very clear to the Republicans that they do not want to see the U.S. lose its credit rating and they’ve convinced McConnell and Boehner to back down. But that doesn’t mean they can craft anything that can pass. Their best bet is something along the lines of what Mitch McConnell proposed, which is to give the president his money but make him exercise a veto in order to get it. At least in this scenario, no Republicans will have to vote in a straightforward fashion to raise the debt ceiling. But this political jujitsu isn’t a very attractive option. For Tea Party Republicans, it’s a transparent capitulation that may invoke some political pain on the president but also takes away all their leverage to force historic cuts in government spending. For Democrats, it’s simply annoying and bad policy.
“The McConnell plan does nothing about the debt! How can that be?” said Senate Budget Committee Chairman Kent Conrad (D-N.D.), who unveiled a plan Monday that would cut $4 trillion from the deficit over the next decade.
House Minority Whip Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) criticized McConnell’s plan, saying on Bill Press’s radio show that it “punts the ball down the road.”
House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) stopped short of endorsing the proposal, but said it has “merit.”
Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), a member of the Budget panel, said there were “pros and cons” to the proposal.
Sen. Mark Begich (D-Alaska), a member of the Budget Committee, said he is uncomfortable about heaping all the responsibility — and expected political blame — on Obama.
“To say it’s only the president’s problem is irresponsible,” Begich said. “Did the people who have been here for 10 years suddenly get amnesia? They helped drive up the deficit. This is everybody’s problem, the president’s and Congress’s.”
The thing to remember here is that the House can’t pass anything. The president can work out some deal with Boehner and Cantor that cuts two trillion dollars, raises the Medicare eligibility age, cuts the COLA adjustments to Social Security, and whatever else, but without the Balanced Budget Amendment, the House won’t pass it. And there really isn’t any sweet spot where the president can win over some conservatives without the Democrats balking.
Now, the president may be sincere in wanting to actually tackle the budget right now when there seems to be the political will to do something tough that otherwise might not be palatable to his own party. That’s what he’s saying. That’s how he’s negotiating. But he also knows that Boehner and Cantor can’t sell any acceptable deal to their caucus. In addition to the Balanced Budget Amendment issue, there’s also the issue of raising some revenue from either tax hikes or the elimination of tax breaks. The House Republicans won’t go for that either. So, what’s really going on is an effort to assign blame. The blame can be for one of two things. It can be blame for defaulting on our debts, ruining our credit score, and causing an economic catastrophe. Or the blame can be for raising the debt limit without addressing our deficits. The way the president has positioned himself, he does not stand to take any blame for either outcome. Oh sure, the other side will try to blame him. And, as the president, he’s still going to own the economy to a great extent. But people will be pretty united in blaming the Republicans for their intransigence and irresponsibility in the face of a good-faith and fair offer.
For this to work, the president must be seen to be acting in good faith, which means he must convince most people that what he’s put on the table is for real. But everything he’s put on the table has been conditioned on the Republicans dropping the Balanced Budget nonsense and agreeing to more tax revenues. The president knows that the Republicans cannot agree to those terms.
This is why McConnell and Boehner caved. They want to pass the gun they’ve been holding to the head of the economy back to the president because they realize that their party is too irresponsible to be trusted with it. Right now, the Republican leadership is wishing they had never gone along with this hostage-taking plan.
McConnell on Wednesday said the Republican brand would be destroyed by a default, claiming it would clinch a second term for President Obama.
“Not on my watch,” McConnell said on Laura Ingraham’s radio show.
It’s now up to Cantor to explain to the Tea Party Republicans in the House that they’ve lost this round and that default is not an option. What he needs to explain to them is that for every one of them that votes against a bill, Boehner has to sweeten the deal enough to attract a Democrat. The more intransigent they are, the worse the capitulation. McConnell is trying to give them all a face-saving device. And, as stupid, cynical, and irresponsible as that device is, it’s the best deal available to the Republicans.
It’s now up to Cantor to explain to the Tea Party Republicans
How can you possibly believe Cantor has any standing as a ‘leader’ after yesterday’s stunt? The longer this goes – and it should end tomorrow – the closer to irrelevance the Tea Party becomes. They’re being shown as what they truly are: a radical-right group funded entirely by a very few wealthy ‘patrons’.
They have nowhere near the power you seem to believe they have.
I disagree with your entire comment. Cantor is now positioned to be Speaker in fairly short order.
As for the Tea Partiers, I’m referring to the group pledged to vote against raising the debt limit no matter what the president offers them. They are exercising quite a bit of power at the moment. By refusing to yield, they’ve split the GOP into total dysfunction, discredited both Boehner and McConnell, and put the world economy on the brink of another recession.
Yep Cantor is in line to be the next speaker….but he cannot deliver the legislation which will raise the debt limit. Boehner and McConell understand this and they will make the deal with Obama. The teabaggers are about to get their first lesson in governing/politics.
You see “Cantor” anywhere in that statement? At the very least he’s been bitch-slapped back into his place walking behind, and to the right of Boehner. But he picked the wrong fight with the wrong people at the wrong time.
Sorry, forgot the link. 🙂
nice explanation BooMan.
Graham admits that they’re irresponsible:
Graham: GOP has no one ‘to blame but ourselves’
Also, Ezra Klein:
“Their thinking” is included in the article:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/the-white-houses-case-for-a-big-deficit-deal/201
1/07/14/gIQAdj4AEI_blog.html
While there is something to Ezra’s reporting, both in the WP piece and the Bloomberg piece I think he’s running a bit of interference for the administration.
Now, all of the reasons Klein has elicited for why an unbalanced deal is still attractive to the White House have some truth to them. But it’s not like the WH doesn’t know the numbers here.
Step back a moment and look at the reality of what is happening.
According to TPMDC’s reporting, Reid and McConnell are moving on with their own negotiations which will from I gather be something like this:
The Congress will authorize the president to get his money, but he they will also have some spending cuts in the bill. It will be one vote, not three. And the way the vote will be structured, Congress will actually vote not to give the president the money, but he will veto it and get the money that way.
The GOP gets some spending cuts and deficit reduction without having to raise taxes. And they get to pretend that they’ve kept their pledge to not raise the the debt ceiling unless certain ridiculous conditions were met.
The Dems avoid draconian cuts, get the debt limit lifted, and get to blame the Republicans for failing to take a sweet deal on deficit reductions.
It’s the best DC can produce at the moment.
The administration knows this, and has known for some time now. So, Klein’s reporting notwithstanding, the administration is setting the field more than pushing hard for a deal.
Not sure how you define “draconian,” but it sounds like the deal I thought would get through in the first place: $1.5-2 trillion in cuts with no tax increases.
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"But I will not let myself be reduced to silence."
The Blue Dog caucus just adds to the number Boehner has to get from non-Blue Dog caucus Democrats. They are not going to vote to raise a debt ceiling AND make cuts that hurt their constituents at the same time. They have two reasons to vote against any compromise that does not have and overwhelming majority of Republican votes.
Cantor and McConnell will cling to having several short-term deals to try to draw a veto and put the blame on Obama. As Jane Hamsher points out, and on this I agree with her, watch for the House GOP to pass a short term (even as short as 30-day extension with some draconian cuts, but what Obama has put on the table) at the last minute on July 29, for example.
I disagree with her that that Obama is unserious either about his vetoing a short-term extension or about the catastrophic effects of not extending the debt limit. They will be catastrophic, but properly managed by Obama, they can be temporary and restore political sanity to the process. And ending the crisis will require a long-term extension of the debt ceiling or the repeal of the debt ceiling law altogether.
you are still reading what that lunatic writes?
Would it be possible to pass a clean raise of the debt ceiling with nearly all the Democrats and few Republicans who’d prefer committing electoral suicide over destroying the nation’s credit rating? Would Cantor have to agree before such a bill could be introduced? I’m pretty ignorant of how the House actually works.
Cantor’s power is more as a whip than anything else. Boehner sets the schedule. Cantor can deliver some votes.
Thank you. In that case, if Boehner really is a patriot, it’s past time for him to commit political suicide and schedule a bill that nearly all the Democrats and a few remaining Republicans who don’t want to see the world economy crash can pass.
What really needs to happen is this: Boehner and Pelosi need to create an ad hoc coalition of sane representatives in the House. They can call it the Sensible Caucus (shout out to Monty Python). Pelosi delivers all the Dems she can, Boehner delivers all the Republicans he can, they agree to keep Boehner as speaker for the remainder of this Congress, Pelosi becomes majority leader of the new caucus, and everybody who isn’t on board with this gets to go form the Silly Caucus behind Eric Cantor.
Of course, this is just a temporary alliance built for purely pragmatic reasons. But it’s probably the only way that Boehner can get a debt ceiling done and keep the speakership for the remainder of this Congress, and that last part will be key for him even to try. It’s a move straight out of the Texas legislature, but it might just work. And it would pretty much destroy what’s left of the Republican Party. Hallelujah.
Boehner would lose his next election if he did this – so no.
I mean, he might lose it anyway – he’s prime for a teabagger run at him from the right once he passes a debt ceiling increase. Or a teabagger run at him from the left if he forces the government into a situation where Medicare and Medicaid checks don’t come out on time. I mean, no matter what he does he’s going to get a teabagger primary challenge.
But he might be able to win that. Sticking a knife in the GOP and allying with Pelosi? Yeah – the Ohio GOP won’t have his back in the next election if he did that so he’d be toast.
I have two thoughts by way of reply.
Of course it won’t happen… because it makes too much sense.