A new Pew survey finds this:
In Congressional districts represented by Tea Party lawmakers, the number of people saying they disagree with the movement has risen significantly since it powered a Republican sweep in midterm elections; almost as many people disagree with it as agree with it.
… The number of people who disagree with the Tea Party has also risen among the general public, according to the most recent of the polls in the Pew analysis, taken this month. Among the public, 27 percent said they disagreed with the Tea Party and 20 percent said they agreed — a reversal from a year ago, when 27 percent agreed and 22 percent disagreed.
In Tea Party districts, 23 percent of people now disagree with the Tea Party, while 25 percent agree. A year ago, 18 percent of people in those districts disagreed with the Tea Party, and 33 percent agreed.
In another poll in the Pew analysis, conducted in October, 48 percent of people in Tea Party districts said they had a negative view of the Republican Party, while 41 percent said they had a favorable view. The favorable rating had dropped 14 percentage points since March.
That drop was steeper than it was among the general public, where the percentage of people with a favorable opinion of the Republican Party had fallen to 36 percent, from 42 percent in March.
This comports with what we’ve seen anecdotally in states like Wisconsin, Ohio, and Florida where Tea-affiliated governors have faced strong backlashes for their assorted idiocies. The more people are exposed to Tea Party ideology and tactics, and what that actually means for their lives, the less they like it.
And where, in the last three months, has that exposure been brightest? Certainly August’s debt ceiling fiasco opened a lot of eyes. But at least as corrosive, and over a much longer term, has been the sustained buffoonery of the Republican presidential candidates and pseudo-candidates who’ve rushed to wear the Tea Party mantle: Trump, Palin, Bachmann, Perry, Cain, and now Gingrich. The more they talk, the more people even in heavily Republican districts are repulsed. Unlike the 2008 Democratic primary season – in which a fairly strong field of candidates, headed by Obama and Hillary Clinton, strengthened the Democratic brand – the Republican campaign so far is not helping the GOP. The entire field is catering to a base that is increasingly disliked by everyone else – including other Republicans.
This is why there will be no populist insurgency in 2012 challenging the rule of the GOP’s money people. This is why Mitt Romney will be the presumptive nominee by February. In the minds of the people that matter, he already is, and the only force within the GOP that could challenge him has peaked and is losing its power.
Of course, there has always been and will continue to be a populist right wing within the GOP, and it will keep making noise in the presidential and congressional races next year. But it’s hard to see a path where the kind of negatives the Tea Party is now racking up even in Republican base districts can be reversed to the point where, as in 2010, GOP incumbents and favored nominees are being toppled en masse.
The question at this point is: where do 2010’s Tea Party supporters go? Not many will go to Obama in 2012, but will they reconcile themselves to Willard, or turn away in disgust at the whole process? And what will the impact be on volunteer enthusiasm and grass roots donations? On downticket races?
Votes are up for grabs. This would be a good time to have a Democratic party leadership that is willing to contest everywhere, including heavily Republican states and districts. The Obama campaign did that beautifully in 2008. In 2010 Congressional races, it didn’t happen so much, and the slate of Democratic Congressional challengers in 2012 still has some major gaps.
There is still going to be a hugely funded effort in 2012 to paint Barack Obama, and by extension his party, as evil incarnate. But don’t confuse it with the Tea Party. That’s over.
Dick Armey must be spinning in his fluster. I will always wonder how much of their demise came from the retreat of the Koch bros once they were outted.
Of course now there’s no TParty skirt to hide behind so the Bachmann Rep’s who fawned over them are in for a hard landing themselves. Who will be their next master?
To me, saying the Tea Party is over is kind of like saying that the heat-fever that Obama’s election caused is over. The pathogen may still be in the system, but the body is starting to accept it.
I don’t know if that is true.
It’s hard to test. One reason it’s hard to test is because we have such an oddball set of Republican presidential candidates.
We don’t have a World War Two vet, who served in Congress, was ambassador to the UN, ambassador to China, Director of the CIA, and vice-president for eight years. How would people feel about a candidate like that? My guess is that they would not only be winning the nomination in a walk, but they’d be heavily favored to beat Obama.
But there is no establishment candidate with sterling credentials. And the one candidate who might faintly resemble a qualified option has an ideology that resembles a Jackson Pollack canvas. He has been on the opposite side of every issue that really drives the Republican base, until he flip-flopped over to their side when he wanted their votes.
How can we know what people really think when they don’t have a candidate to support?
Romney’s showing greater weakness lately. His polls are sagging. He’s avoiding the press and performing badly when he does do interviews. Herman Cain is imploding, and most of his votes probably won’t go to Romney.
It appears that more than 75% of the Republican base is immoveable in its opposition to Mitt.
I don’t know that you’re wrong when you say that the Tea Party is over. I see what you’re saying. But Romney is so unappetizing to the base that we may get a very Tea Party result in the primaries.
Or, he might win every state. That could happen, too.
The Tea Party isn’t over only because of the corporate money backing them. The question then becomes when do people get so pissed off that even a billion from Grover and the Koch Brothers can’t even save the GOP.
The corporate money isn’t going anywhere, but as soon as the Tea Party meme becomes ineffective they’ll be off on another tack. Their allegiance is to stopping Obama and the Democrats and getting corporate lackeys in power. The Tea Party is a means for them, not an end, and as such it’s disposable.
I know. That’s why the DCCC and like-minded orgs are stupid for jumping on that train.
In a perverse way we were perhaps dealt a good card to have the TParty arrive when it did rather than a year later.
For the last year, people have seen their ideologies crumble under the burden of the TParty Experience. Who knew when you cut funding to transportation that roads didn’t get fixed? It’s been a year of consequences that point toward TParty accountability.
In retrospect the TParty has been nothing more than the Rep party with an amped up mic.
Understood that there’s no enthusiasm for Mitt among the base. But, really, what’s the alternative that would appeal? They’re all jokes, Gingrich included.
The core base of, say, 40% of Republicans by itself can’t get anyone nominated. Historically Goldwater was their last guy. They need the folks on the edge, who aren’t as ideologically motivated. Those are the people Pew says are drifting away, and they’re a good chunk of that 75%. Without any focal point, their influence becomes a lot less. I don’t see anyone in the current R field who can do that.
They wouldn’t accept Goldwater. If Goldwater was their guy, Johnson would be their guy…or even Ron Paul to an extent.
Goldwater would hate these religious nutjobs.
I think your post speaks more of the difficulty liberals have in understanding Conservatives than anything else.
This is Gingrich’s to lose.
When you see results like this Pew poll it suggests strongly that a lot of the people who supported the Tea Party — no matter how enthusiastically — did so not because they hold views similar to the Koch brothers. They voted not for what the Tea Party is, but for what they imagined the Tea Party to be. The times are difficult, and they see that Obama doesn’t have the magic to fix everything overnight. Too hassled or naive or ill-informed as to the real nature of the TP, they just figured that “a new broom sweeps clean.” So it’s not that the Tea Party is literally over, but rather, it’s shrinking back to its core support, which — as I’ve said here many times — is very fringe. This fringe never goes away, but these days its visibility is grotesquely magnified by the hold it has over one of our two major political parties.
This fringe never goes away, but these days its visibility is grotesquely magnified by the hold it has over one of our two major political parties.
And how much love the supposed “liberal media” shows it.
but really, it could be directed at anyone writing about this stuff from the liberal side.
Can somone please explain how the former House Majority Leader is not part of the Republican Establishment?
No, he is not a Bush country club Republican. News Flash: these people haven’t controlled the GOP since 1980. The candidate you describe lost to a guy who used to say things like trees were responsible for pollution.
Really, this has gotten absurd. Not as absurd as the belief that Romney is going to get the nomination (can’t you read a poll?), but I really don’t get were much of the writing on the GOP is coming from.
House Majority Leader? Newt was Speaker once upon the time!! Next in line to the Presidency after the VP.