Jonathan Bernstein has weighed in again on the implausibility of a brokered convention. A lot of what he is saying is aimed at a different argument, which is that some savior might parachute into the primaries in late-January or February and win enough delegates to be the nominee. I agree with Bernstein that that won’t happen. But the brokered convention is a totally different conversation. It comes down to an assessment of the likelihood that no candidate will win a majority of the delegates. I am utterly unconvinced by Bernstein’s argument that that possibility is completely remote.
I explained much of my reasoning in my last piece, but let’s look at what Bernstein is saying:
What a deadlocked convention needs is three or more candidates winning delegates. But the nature of the process is that candidates who do poorly in the first states are starved for resources and drop out. That’s already happened with (at least) Tim Pawlenty. It will happen in the next month with, almost certainly, any candidate who does badly in Iowa and New Hampshire…most likely, we’ll be down to three or four active candidates at most, one of whom will be Ron Paul. It’s highly unlikely that we’ll still have more than two plus Paul after Florida — we did, briefly in 2008 (with Huck, Mitt, and McCain all making it to Supertuesday), but the logic of the process makes that the best-case scenario for a split field, and as we saw in 2008 it wasn’t really all that split.
Meanwhile, Paul is unlikely to pile up very many delegates. There are just too many events that are winner-take-all, either by state or congressional district, for a candidate who gets a consistent 15% everywhere to have that translated into very much at the convention. My best guess is that Paul will be very challenged to reach 10% of the delegate total as a very optimistic upside.
Which means that if there are only two other candidates in most states that they’ll have to finish in a dead heat for Paul’s handful of delegates and the smattering of delegates won by candidates who drop out early to prevent the winner from hitting 50% + 1.
The first and most important premise is that “candidates who do poorly in the first states are starved for resources and drop out.” To me, that’s obsolete Tim Pawlenty-thinking. Who needs resources? Does Newt Gingrich have any resources? Bernstein is assuming that this election is part of a logical continuum and that it, therefore, can be accurately predicted by reference to prior elections. But too much is already different from all prior elections for that to be a safe bet. When was the last time that the Establishment candidate couldn’t crack 25% in the polls?
Earlier in his piece, Bernstein predicted that Romney would drop out if he lost both Iowa and New Hampshire, but I see no good reason why he would do that. He’d still have the most money. He’d still be the Establishment choice. And he’d be under enormous pressure not to concede to clown candidates. We know Ron Paul won’t drop out. If Gingrich can win Iowa with no money or field organization, he can certainly keep running. As for Rick Perry, if he sees that Romney is losing the early contests, he has added incentive to stay in the race as it turns south. I suppose that Huntsman will drop out after Iowa, or maybe New Hampshire. Rick Santorum will probably do the same. Michele Bachmann probably won’t persist for too long.
But what Bernstein is ignoring is that the electorate is unlikely to embrace Romney based on the opinions of a few voters in a small handful of states. If Romney wins Iowa and New Hampshire, he might roll to the nomination, but who thinks he will win Iowa? Who is all that confident that he’ll win in New Hampshire?
And why should we assume that Gingrich won’t produce at least as much buyer’s remorse as Bachmann and Cain did before him? It seems to me that the most likely process will be similar to what we’ve seen over the last year. Once a candidate gets a lead, everyone will freak out and move to another option. And this should repeat itself in a somewhat circular manner, with people coming back to Romney once all alternatives have been exhausted. It’s a kind of anti-momentum, where the deadliest thing is to get a lead and look like you might actually become the nominee. People vote for Gingrich because he’s not Romney, and Paul because he’s not Gingrich, and Perry because he’s not Paul, and Romney because he’s not Perry. Round and round we go, and when the carousel ends, no one has enough delegates to claim the nomination.
All this requires is that Romney not get off to a strong start and that he not drop out.
I agree that Ron Paul will probably struggle to get more than 10% of the delegates if it remains a crowded field. If it becomes a two-way race between Romney and Paul, anything can happen. It’s true that 62% of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents find Ron Paul totally unacceptable as a presidential candidate, but 41% say the same thing about Romney. I think the more important point is that Paul is likely to stay in the race until the very end, and probably will pick up whatever scraps are available. If he picks up 10%, that just makes Romney’s job of reaching 50% that much harder.
And show me some sign that Romney is about to break out and start winning primaries. Show me anyone who thinks that Gingrich can walk to the nomination. Show me how Rick Perry can get his act together. And how can Paul win when 62% of the voters see him as beyond the pale? If no one can make a case that they’re going to be the winner, why not predict that none of them will be the winner? I mean, it’s possible. It’s very possible.
I love JB but he’s out of his element here. GOP has gone nuts and their primaries are more about choosing a tribal champion than nominating a president. Facts, logic, reason, data need to be checked at the door and instead to understand what’s going on you need the tribal understanding of a digby or Rick perlstein. What’s weird is since he is one of the brighter pundits out there on the filibuster and mcconnell’s obstruction he can’t make the connection on how much we are in unchartered waters.
My prediction: if economy takes a nose dive in early 2012 elites will make sure someone like Christie or Daniels is on the ballot. Democracy has been a quant notion to elites since bush v gore.
Your first paragraph is 100% correct.
This is just a really tough election to actually predict, all around. Just on the GOP side, we’ve never seen anything like this situation in the modern era. And that’s without adding the skewed economic incentives created by conservative media; the volatile economy; and the fact that the first black Prez is running for re-election. No one knows what’s going to happen, and most of us – left, right, and center – are probably going to end up with a Denver omelette on our faces come Nov. 2012.
As a radical right-winger…
I vote for brokered convention…
I still want my Dream Ticket…
Christie and Rubio!
Mitt’s boring. The most interesting part of his campaign is the attacks against him, but he personally never brings a drop of charisma to any room.
If Newt can crack Mitt’s barbi & ken doll persona to reveal a real person maybe the R’s can pull out of this, but since Newt has a tendency to kill off anything in his path, Mitt’s handlers better start the boxing lessons.
Worse than boring. Boring and a d&#k.
I disagree with a lot of your post. But lets start with this one:
It’s December. Here’s a link for Gallup’s primary polls for the Republican and Democratic nomimations in early January, 2008:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/104107/gallup-daily-tracking-election-2008.aspx
Bottom line: on January 10th 2008 this is where the race stood:
Republican primary
McCain 24%
Huckabee 22%
Romney 12%
Giuliani 15%
Democratic primary
Clinton 43%
Obama 35%
Edwards 11%
“Brokered convention” is like catnip to political wonks. I’ll be more convinced if you can come up with the same conclusion on Feb 15. It really depends on the level of ego and availability of the stream of campaign cash. Because some of those who are still in the race are just hustling campaign cash while they can.
So any analysis has to look at the big donors not the voters. What do the financial reports tell you about which big donors are supporting each of the candidates and more importantly how deep those donors’ pockets are. At some point those donors are going to start looking to the general election and not want to lose any more money on the primary. Then you might see who is shifting their bets.
Little donors are buying personality, ideology, and policy promises. Big donors are buying access, and you don’t have access if someone loses.
The big donors are no different today than the party chairs in “smoke-filled rooms” were in earlier eras. They both have the effect of limiting influence on who gets to represent the party in the general election to a small group of people with a specific skill set and resources. Fundraisers are party bosses of today.
For a brokered convention to occur, what has to happen is lack of consensus among the bosses — the funders and fundraisers in today’s environment, and a willingness of their part to contest the nominee at the convention. This is usually the result of some kind of evenly split ideological difference among the bosses. But I don’t see that happening now. I don’t see an ideologically divided GOP. I see a far-right GOP that is debating with itself on who can best sell the far-right message without selling out altogether.
For the first time, I’m actually kind looking forward to one of these damn GOP debates. I so wanna see the Mitt vs Newt “Rumble In The Jungle” (lucky for me though, I’m gonna be at a party).
I’ve been saying all along, that Mittens have yet to be really challenged in any of these debates. The other contenders just couldn’t cut it. The one time Perry tried he kinda made Mittens’ hair come undone for a brief moment, but then while Perry was imploding on his own immigration question, Mittens was able to put that hair back in place and continue with his “I Wanna Be President” Ken Doll act.
We kinda know that Mittens needs to “bring Newt down”, but do we also expect Newt to go all “guns ablazin'” on Mittens, or will it better for Newt to engage the others and ignore Mittens as if he’s just a fly on the wall.
Very interesting debate tomorrow, n’est-ce pa?
Plus, won’t the SS Newton Leroy G be taking it in from all sides tomorrow. It’s gonna be like a dog pile right?
Boo: if you’re right on this you’ll get the 2012 Giordano Award.
I thought Al, Nate, and I shared that the last time around.
Yes, but I mean for next year.
Second point.
In 2008, things played out very much as you’re imagining they will play out this year. Huckabee was sweeping Southern contests, Romney and McCain were battling each other for the rest. McCain scored a big win in New Hampshire and edged ahead of Romney in Florida but Romney kept picking up wins, himself.
On Super Tuesday, McCain won 9, Romney 7 and Huckabee 5 of the contests up for grabs. The result. Romney quit when it became impossible for him to win. Huckabee quit campaigning actively, Ron Paul collected anywhere between 4% and 22% in each contest but the race was over. No brokered convention.
The Republican nomination was wrapped up months before the media stopped wondering whether the Obama and Clinton camps would tear each other apart, and if that would guarantee McCain an easy victory in November.
There are more states this time that are split delegate wise. Meaning there are less “winner-take-all” contests.
This was the argument people were pushing during the Clinton/Obama contest. Insiders were telling everyone that there would be a convention battle between them in 2008. Geraldine Ferraro was demanding that superdelegates switch to Clinton and that ballots of younger voters not be counted. Thomas Sowell wrote an idiotic column titled “In defense of smoke filled rooms” arguing that we toss this whole voting nonsense and let our betters decide who to send to the general election.
Every pundit salivated over the idea that there’d be fireworks at the convention. Or that Clinton’s voters would sit out the general election in protest. But there weren’t and they didn’t. The delegates weren’t going to go against the voter’s choice after months of campaigning. Likewise, Republican insiders won’t decide, after months of primary battles, to toss the results and pick some name out of a hat, instead.
That would make the whole process even more of a circus than it already is.